On Wed, 2010-06-09 at 08:38 +0200, Kevin Kofler wrote:
> Luke Macken wrote:
> > By "success" I mean that I felt we were successful in drafting,
> > implementing, deploying, and utilizing the mentioned policies as
> > expected, and the results show increased community engagement.
>
> This definitio
Luke Macken wrote:
> By "success" I mean that I felt we were successful in drafting,
> implementing, deploying, and utilizing the mentioned policies as
> expected, and the results show increased community engagement.
This definition of "success" does not match mine nor the one you'll find in
a di
On Wed, Jun 9, 2010 at 2:13 PM, Rahul Sundaram wrote:
> On 06/09/2010 11:41 AM, Luming Yu wrote:
>> [r...@hp-core ~]# package-cleanup --problems
>>
>
> package-cleanup --cleandupes can fix some of these issues but this is
> really outside the scope of the list. Post to users list and we can
> foll
On 06/09/2010 11:41 AM, Luming Yu wrote:
> [r...@hp-core ~]# package-cleanup --problems
>
package-cleanup --cleandupes can fix some of these issues but this is
really outside the scope of the list. Post to users list and we can
followup there. Besides that, the media player issue seems unrela
On Wed, Jun 9, 2010 at 1:55 PM, Rahul Sundaram wrote:
> On 06/09/2010 11:06 AM, Luming Yu wrote:
>> On Wed, Jun 9, 2010 at 1:33 PM, Rahul Sundaram wrote:
>>
>>>
>>> This plays fine for me. Perhaps you downloaded a large resolution video
>>> your system can't handle well?
>>>
>> 512x384 kittens.go
On Tue, 2010-06-08 at 21:20 -0400, Matthias Clasen wrote:
> On Tue, 2010-06-08 at 16:51 -0400, Luke Macken wrote:
>
> >
> > Fedora 13
> > ==
On Tue, 2010-06-08 at 16:51 -0400, Luke Macken wrote:
>
> Fedora 13
>
>
> * 231 updates automatically pushed due to karma (6.49%)
On Tuesday 08 June 2010, Richard W.M. Jones wrote:
> The full fix is *not* just quote removal.
>
> cf. our first fix:
> http://git.annexia.org/?p=libguestfs.git;a=commitdiff;h=457fccae1b665347f81
> 045e8c7a3309d8328c4fc
>
> and out later, complete fix:
> http://git.annexia.org/?p=libguestfs.git;
On 06/09/2010 11:06 AM, Luming Yu wrote:
> On Wed, Jun 9, 2010 at 1:33 PM, Rahul Sundaram wrote:
>
>>
>> This plays fine for me. Perhaps you downloaded a large resolution video
>> your system can't handle well?
>>
> 512x384 kittens.gov doesn't work either.
>
I recommend running package
On Wed, 2010-06-09 at 01:46 +0200, Kevin Kofler wrote:
> Luke Macken wrote:
> > This report definitely conveys the shortcomings in our testing, however,
> > it does show us improving with each release.
By 'shortcomings in our testing', I mean, 'shortcomings in the process
by which we currently us
On Wed, Jun 9, 2010 at 1:33 PM, Rahul Sundaram wrote:
> On 06/09/2010 11:01 AM, Luming Yu wrote:
>>
>>> More details needed. What video are you playing?
>>>
>> big-buck-bunny.ogv
>>
>
> This plays fine for me. Perhaps you downloaded a large resolution video
> your system can't handle well?
512x
On 06/09/2010 11:01 AM, Luming Yu wrote:
>
>> More details needed. What video are you playing?
>>
> big-buck-bunny.ogv
>
This plays fine for me. Perhaps you downloaded a large resolution video
your system can't handle well?
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On Wed, Jun 9, 2010 at 1:22 PM, Rahul Sundaram wrote:
> On 06/09/2010 10:48 AM, Luming Yu wrote:
>> Hi there,
>>
>> After yum upgrade from f12 to f13, I see the video play back stop
>> working (play back window is black and the progress bar seems to be
>> always at 0) with banshee and totem. Fla
On 06/09/2010 10:48 AM, Kevin Kofler wrote:
> Stephen John Smoogen wrote:
>
>> Well the only person I see mentioning quality is Kevin. And for some
>> reason he is expecting it immediately
>>
> You can't claim that there are "shortcomings in our testing" (the exact
> words Luke used!) with
> Re: Outage: Reboot of systems 2010-06-08 1600 UTC
That time is in the past.
> There will be an outage starting at 2010-04-29 03:50:00 UTC
And that time is different and even further in the past.
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On 06/09/2010 10:48 AM, Luming Yu wrote:
> Hi there,
>
> After yum upgrade from f12 to f13, I see the video play back stop
> working (play back window is black and the progress bar seems to be
> always at 0) with banshee and totem. Flash player plug-in in FF
> still works as before.
>
> Any sugge
Stephen John Smoogen wrote:
> Well the only person I see mentioning quality is Kevin. And for some
> reason he is expecting it immediately
You can't claim that there are "shortcomings in our testing" (the exact
words Luke used!) without a metric of quality. A shortcoming in testing
means less te
Hi there,
After yum upgrade from f12 to f13, I see the video play back stop
working (play back window is black and the progress bar seems to be
always at 0) with banshee and totem. Flash player plug-in in FF
still works as before.
Any suggestions to the problem?
Thanks,
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On 06/09/2010 10:24 AM, Kevin Kofler wrote:
> Good luck going through the hundreds of thousands of options of our hundreds
> of packages and listing all the ones we don't support for whatever reason. By
> the time such a list would be completed, it'd already be decades out of date
> and thus com
On Wednesday 09 June 2010, Seth Vidal wrote:
> Since neither of you speak for any of the yum developers, please stop
> doing so either implicitly or explicitly.
I'm not speaking for any of the yum developers. I'm just suggesting we,
Fedora, stop caring about bizarre yum options which we don't de
On 06/09/2010 10:23 AM, Seth Vidal wrote:
> a suggestion.
>
> Since neither of you speak for any of the yum developers, please stop
> doing so either implicitly or explicitly.
I am not speaking for you any yum developers implicitly or explicitly.
I am expressing a view point. You can as a yum d
On Wednesday 09 June 2010, Rahul Sundaram wrote:
> I don't buy your argument and trashing anyone's opinion you disagree
> with you as "crap" and "nonsense" is hardly going to help make your
> case. Excluding a dependency and setting a multi_lib option is hardly
> the same thing. Anyway, I am pr
On Wed, 9 Jun 2010, Rahul Sundaram wrote:
>
> I don't buy your argument and trashing anyone's opinion you disagree
> with you as "crap" and "nonsense" is hardly going to help make your
> case. Excluding a dependency and setting a multi_lib option is hardly
> the same thing. Anyway, I am pret
On 06/09/2010 10:13 AM, Kevin Kofler wrote:
> A lot of software we ship supports more than just Fedora, you just can't
> expect all options to work on Fedora.
>
> As for yum in particular, there are plenty of ways to end up with a broken
> setup by modifying yum.conf, e.g. exclude=kdelibs will de
On Wednesday 09 June 2010, Rahul Sundaram wrote:
> On 06/09/2010 09:58 AM, Kevin Kofler wrote:
> > Nonsense. There are plenty of options in software we ship which we don't
> > and can't support.
>
> Then stop including such a option or mark it unsupported or experimental.
A lot of software we shi
On 06/09/2010 09:58 AM, Kevin Kofler wrote:
> On Wednesday 09 June 2010, Rahul Sundaram wrote:
>
>> As long as yum offers it as a option, bugs must be fixed.
>>
> Nonsense. There are plenty of options in software we ship which we don't and
> can't support.
>
Then stop including such a
On Wednesday 09 June 2010, Rahul Sundaram wrote:
> As long as yum offers it as a option, bugs must be fixed.
Nonsense. There are plenty of options in software we ship which we don't and
can't support.
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last approximately 4 hours.
To convert UTC to your local time, take a look at
http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Infrastructure/UTCHowto
or run:
date -d '2010-06-08 16:00:00 UTC'
Affected Services:
Buildsystem
CVS / Source Contro
On Wed, 9 Jun 2010, Kevin Kofler wrote:
> Toshio Kuratomi wrote:
>> As long as all the code paths are lowercasing before comparing it should
>> be fine for Fedora -- we have a policy not to have two packages with names
>> that are only differentiated by case.
>
> Are we sure this is being follow
Hey,
>
> I think image subpackage is not needed, maybe it can merged to
> -common subpackage,
I've done this so that someone installing only the console/daemon
doesn't pull in images. If merged it into common, the images will also
be installed (which *probably* aren't being used by console/daem
On 06/09/2010 05:00 AM, Kevin Kofler wrote:
> Michel Alexandre Salim wrote:
>
>> Any idea how to fix this? We should probably add a section to the
>> packaging guidelines, on how to migrate to noarch subpackages without
>> breaking upgrade paths.
>>
> Or just not support users who have unne
On Tue, Jun 8, 2010 at 6:41 PM, Brandon Lozza wrote:
> On Tue, Jun 8, 2010 at 7:46 PM, Kevin Kofler wrote:
>> Luke Macken wrote:
>>> This report definitely conveys the shortcomings in our testing, however,
>>> it does show us improving with each release. For Fedora 13, we implemented
>>> the No F
On Tue, 2010-06-08 at 16:51 -0400, Luke Macken wrote:
>
> Fedora 13
>
>
> * 3562 updates
> * 3065 stable updates
> * 427 testin
2010/6/9 Ankur Sinha :
> On Tue, 2010-06-08 at 23:21 +0530, Ankur Sinha wrote:
>> On Wed, 2010-06-02 at 14:10 -0700, Peter Gordon wrote:
>> > On Wed, 2010-06-02 at 00:56 +0530, Rahul Sundaram wrote:
>> > > I will work with Ankur Sinha and probably do this for Rawhide in the
>> > > next couple of da
On Tue, Jun 8, 2010 at 7:46 PM, Kevin Kofler wrote:
> Luke Macken wrote:
>> This report definitely conveys the shortcomings in our testing, however,
>> it does show us improving with each release. For Fedora 13, we implemented
>> the No Frozen Rawhide process with improved Critical Path policies,
Luke Macken wrote:
> This report definitely conveys the shortcomings in our testing, however,
> it does show us improving with each release. For Fedora 13, we implemented
> the No Frozen Rawhide process with improved Critical Path policies, which
> were definitely a success. With these enhanced pro
Michel Alexandre Salim wrote:
> Any idea how to fix this? We should probably add a section to the
> packaging guidelines, on how to migrate to noarch subpackages without
> breaking upgrade paths.
Or just not support users who have unneeded multilib packages installed.
Installing only those multil
On Tue, 8 Jun 2010 16:05:49 -0700
Ryan Rix wrote:
> On Tue 8 June 2010 3:44:53 pm Kevin Kofler wrote:
> > Steve Traylen wrote:
> > > aalib I'm not interested in, nothing seems to require it.
> >
> > aalib is used by several video playing libraries/applications.
> >
> > Kevin Kofler
>
>
Toshio Kuratomi wrote:
> As long as all the code paths are lowercasing before comparing it should
> be fine for Fedora -- we have a policy not to have two packages with names
> that are only differentiated by case.
Are we sure this is being followed everywhere?
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On Tue 8 June 2010 3:44:53 pm Kevin Kofler wrote:
> Steve Traylen wrote:
> > aalib I'm not interested in, nothing seems to require it.
>
> aalib is used by several video playing libraries/applications.
>
> Kevin Kofler
I'll take it over, then. For that reason, and the fact that aalib's d
Steve Traylen wrote:
> aalib I'm not interested in, nothing seems to require it.
aalib is used by several video playing libraries/applications.
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Richard W.M. Jones changed:
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2010/6/8 Dan Williams
> This might be #589108; the symptom is that networking will be disabled
> after a failed suspend/hibernate. The fix is committed upstream, and
> should filter down into F13-updates soon.
>
Ok Thanks!
I hope soon no longer need to use ifconfig and dhclient to configure my
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===
#fedora-meeting: FESCO (2010-06-08)
===
Meeting started by nirik at 19:30:07 UTC. The full logs are available at
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Meeting summary
I recently wrote some code to generate detailed statistics of Fedora & EPEL
updates within bodhi. Eventually this will be auto-generated and exposed within
bodhi itself, but for now here are the initial metrics.
This report definitely conveys the shortcomings in our testing, however, it
does sh
On Sat, 2010-06-05 at 10:46 -0300, João Neto wrote:
> Hello,
>
> I have submitted a bug on Fedora Bugzilla:
>
> https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=600656
>
> But i wonder if someone has had this problem before.
>
> This as ocurred after notebook suspend on KDE, and Network Manager do
Richard W.M. Jones wrote, at 06/09/2010 03:59 AM +9:00:
> The error is:
>
> DEBUG util.py:256: nss-3.12.6-6.fc14.i686 from build has depsolving problems
> DEBUG util.py:256:--> Missing Dependency: nss-softokn(x86-32) = 3.12.4
> is needed by package nss-3.12.6-6.fc14.i686 (build)
> DEBUG util
On Tue, Jun 08, 2010 at 02:14:12PM +0200, Farkas Levente wrote:
> hi,
> =~ no longer working in bash. just try this little line:
> -
> if [[ "abc" =~ "abc.*" ]]; then echo inside; else echo outside; fi
> -
> this give "inside" up to fedora-12,
The error is:
DEBUG util.py:256: nss-3.12.6-6.fc14.i686 from build has depsolving problems
DEBUG util.py:256:--> Missing Dependency: nss-softokn(x86-32) = 3.12.4 is
needed by package nss-3.12.6-6.fc14.i686 (build)
DEBUG util.py:256: Error: Missing Dependency: nss-softokn(x86-32) = 3.12.4 is
On Tue, 2010-06-08 at 23:21 +0530, Ankur Sinha wrote:
> On Wed, 2010-06-02 at 14:10 -0700, Peter Gordon wrote:
> > On Wed, 2010-06-02 at 00:56 +0530, Rahul Sundaram wrote:
> > > I will work with Ankur Sinha and probably do this for Rawhide in the
> > > next couple of days. Peter Gordon, let me kn
Author: scop
Update of /cvs/pkgs/rpms/perl-Config-General/devel
In directory cvs01.phx2.fedoraproject.org:/tmp/cvs-serv20136
Modified Files:
.cvsignore perl-Config-General.spec sources
Log Message:
* Tue Jun 8 2010 Ville Skyttä - 2.49-1
- Update to 2.49 (#601611).
Index: .cvsignore
A file has been added to the lookaside cache for perl-Config-General:
d5807e73515b2faf1bb26c6603b51103 Config-General-2.49.tar.gz
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On Wed, 2010-06-02 at 14:10 -0700, Peter Gordon wrote:
> On Wed, 2010-06-02 at 00:56 +0530, Rahul Sundaram wrote:
> > I will work with Ankur Sinha and probably do this for Rawhide in the
> > next couple of days. Peter Gordon, let me know if you have any objections
>
> This sounds good to me - pl
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perl-Net-STOMP-Client-0.9.2-1.el5 has been submitted as an
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perl-Net-STOMP-Client-0.9.2-1.fc12 has been submitted as a
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Author: stevetraylen
Update of /cvs/pkgs/rpms/perl-Net-STOMP-Client/F-12
In directory cvs01.phx2.fedoraproject.org:/tmp/cvs-serv11258/F-12
Modified Files:
.cvsignore perl-Net-STOMP-Client.spec sources
Log Message:
New upstream 0.9.2.
Index: .cvsignore
=
Author: stevetraylen
Update of /cvs/pkgs/rpms/perl-Net-STOMP-Client/F-13
In directory cvs01.phx2.fedoraproject.org:/tmp/cvs-serv11258/F-13
Modified Files:
.cvsignore perl-Net-STOMP-Client.spec sources
Log Message:
New upstream 0.9.2.
Index: .cvsignore
=
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Update of /cvs/pkgs/rpms/perl-Net-STOMP-Client/EL-6
In directory cvs01.phx2.fedoraproject.org:/tmp/cvs-serv11258/EL-6
Modified Files:
.cvsignore perl-Net-STOMP-Client.spec sources
Log Message:
New upstream 0.9.2.
Index: .cvsignore
=
Author: stevetraylen
Update of /cvs/pkgs/rpms/perl-Net-STOMP-Client/EL-5
In directory cvs01.phx2.fedoraproject.org:/tmp/cvs-serv11258/EL-5
Modified Files:
.cvsignore perl-Net-STOMP-Client.spec sources
Log Message:
New upstream 0.9.2.
Index: .cvsignore
=
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Update of /cvs/pkgs/rpms/perl-Net-STOMP-Client/EL-4
In directory cvs01.phx2.fedoraproject.org:/tmp/cvs-serv11258/EL-4
Modified Files:
.cvsignore perl-Net-STOMP-Client.spec sources
Log Message:
New upstream 0.9.2.
Index: .cvsignore
=
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In directory cvs01.phx2.fedoraproject.org:/tmp/cvs-serv10585
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Log Message:
0.29 bump
Index: .cvsignore
===
RCS
Author: stevetraylen
Update of /cvs/pkgs/rpms/perl-Net-STOMP-Client/devel
In directory cvs01.phx2.fedoraproject.org:/tmp/cvs-serv10160
Modified Files:
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Log Message:
New upstream 0.9.2.
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8f130689c28f8419aa968c21856a39f7 Net-STOMP-Client-0.9.2.tar.gz
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On 8 June 2010 16:11, Frank Murphy wrote:
> Both rebuilt on my x86_64 Rawhide
> also rebuilt gcm to suit
> http://koji.fedoraproject.org/koji/buildinfo?buildID=176385
I've built a git snapshot of dconf and it should be in rawhide tomorrow.
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On 05/06/10 15:41, Richard Hughes wrote:
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> http://people.freedesktop.org/~hughsient/fedora/13/SRPMS/
>
> Richard.
Both rebuilt on my x86_64 Rawhide
also rebuilt gcm to suit
http://koji.fedoraproject.org/koji/buildinfo?buildID=176385
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Peter Lemenkov wrote:
> 2010/6/8 Michael Cronenworth :
>> Due to bug 493565[1], fuse needs to be updated. This bug has been around for
>> a very long time, and no one can seem to reach the fuse maintainer. I see
>> this bug daily on one system and I'm tired of it. Can anyone help?
>
> I am the FUS
Farkas Levente writes:
> hi,
> =~ no longer working in bash. just try this little line:
> -
> if [[ "abc" =~ "abc.*" ]]; then echo inside; else echo outside; fi
> -
See question E14 in the Bash FAQ.
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08.06.10, 16:14, "Farkas Levente" :
> hi,
> =~ no longer working in bash. just try this little line:
> -
> if [[ "abc" =~ "abc.*" ]]; then echo inside; else echo outside; fi
> -
> this give "inside" up to fedora-12, but it gives
> "outs
Author: ppisar
Update of /cvs/pkgs/rpms/perl-Class-Adapter/devel
In directory cvs01.phx2.fedoraproject.org:/tmp/cvs-serv18165
Modified Files:
.cvsignore perl-Class-Adapter.spec sources
Log Message:
1.07 bump
Index: .cvsignore
On Tue, Jun 8, 2010 at 8:14 AM, Farkas Levente wrote:
> hi,
> =~ no longer working in bash. just try this little line:
> -
> if [[ "abc" =~ "abc.*" ]]; then echo inside; else echo outside; fi
> -
> this give "inside" up to fedora-12, but it g
Compose started at Tue Jun 8 08:15:10 UTC 2010
Broken deps for i386
--
almanah-0.7.3-1.fc14.i686 requires libedataserver-1.2.so.12
1:anjuta-2.30.0.0-2.fc14.i686 requires libgladeui-1.so.9
cpanspec-1.78-4.fc13.noarch r
On Tue, Jun 8, 2010 at 1:21 AM, Peter Lemenkov wrote:
> 2010/6/8 Michael Cronenworth :
>> Due to bug 493565[1], fuse needs to be updated. This bug has been around for
>> a very long time, and no one can seem to reach the fuse maintainer. I see
>> this bug daily on one system and I'm tired of it. C
Author: pghmcfc
Update of /cvs/pkgs/rpms/perl-IO-Compress-Lzma/devel
In directory cvs01.phx2.fedoraproject.org:/tmp/cvs-serv16600
Modified Files:
.cvsignore sources
Added Files:
perl-IO-Compress-Lzma.spec
Log Message:
Initial import of perl-IO-Compress-Lzma-2.027-2.fc14
--- NE
hi,
=~ no longer working in bash. just try this little line:
-
if [[ "abc" =~ "abc.*" ]]; then echo inside; else echo outside; fi
-
this give "inside" up to fedora-12, but it gives
"outside" in fedora-13.
imho it's a serious changes since all
Author: mmaslano
Update of /cvs/pkgs/rpms/perl-POE/devel
In directory cvs01.phx2.fedoraproject.org:/tmp/cvs-serv24009
Modified Files:
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Log Message:
* Tue Jun 8 2010 Petr Pisar - 1.289-1
- 1.289 bump
- Reenable t/90_regression/rt1648-tied-stderr.t test
An LLVM user reported to me a problem updating LLVM (from the version
in F13-updates to the version that is then in Koji), and I suggested
that he filed a bug report.
https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=600969
In the discussion that follows, James Antill diagnosed the problem as
due to ll
On Mon, Jun 7, 2010 at 10:30 PM, Peter Robinson wrote:
> On Mon, Jun 7, 2010 at 10:25 PM, mike cloaked wrote:
>> Has anyone been tinkering with Lightspark in Fedora
>> (http://www.osnews.com/story/2/Lightspark_Reaches_Beta_Status
>> and http://lightspark.sourceforge.net/ )
>>
>> Seems interes
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