Re: gvfs causes hangs

2010-01-25 Thread Adam Williamson
On Tue, 2010-01-26 at 07:03 +0100, Kevin Kofler wrote: > Adam Williamson wrote: > > I don't believe it was ever escalated as a blocker. I probably > didn't > > consider promoting it as one at the time as FUSE isn't used for any > > normal native Linux mount. Probably the most common use of FUSE is

Re: gvfs causes hangs

2010-01-25 Thread Kevin Kofler
Steve Grubb wrote: > Digging into this further, if you run lsof, it hangs when it gets to > ~/.gvfs: It is possible to disable FUSE mounting in gvfs, see: http://lists.fedoraproject.org/pipermail/users/2009-August/084569.html Kevin Kofler -- devel mailing list devel@lists.fedoraproject.

Re: Orphaning xerces-c

2010-01-25 Thread Kevin Kofler
Peter Lemenkov wrote: > Seems that things are getting even worse. I found the only way to > completely resign from the maintainership of xerces-c - by pressing > the "Retire Package" button. And now the package has "Deprecated" > status and no other buttons are active. "Retire package" is for when

Re: gvfs causes hangs

2010-01-25 Thread Kevin Kofler
Adam Williamson wrote: > I don't believe it was ever escalated as a blocker. I probably didn't > consider promoting it as one at the time as FUSE isn't used for any > normal native Linux mount. Probably the most common use of FUSE is for > mounting NTFS partitions via ntfs-3g, but I'm not sure that

Re: Orphaning xerces-c

2010-01-25 Thread Peter Lemenkov
2010/1/25 Lubomir Rintel : > On Mon, 2010-01-25 at 16:54 +0300, Peter Lemenkov wrote: >> Hello! >> Unfortunately, I've got difficulties while releasing ownership ( >> https://fedorahosted.org/packagedb/ticket/173 ). > I've seen that once too; I believe it's supposed to be a feature that > reassig

Orphan: Empathy

2010-01-25 Thread Peter Gordon
Hi, all. I've just released ownership of Empathy's Fedora package on all active branches (F-11, F-12, and devel). As can be seen from the CVS and in-spec changelogs as well as the storm of unanswered bug reports for it, I haven't been giving this package nearly as much care as it deserves (espe

Re: F12 to Rawhide upgrade

2010-01-25 Thread Adam Williamson
On Mon, 2010-01-25 at 18:03 -0600, Mike Chambers wrote: > On Mon, 2010-01-25 at 23:03 +, Leigh Scott wrote: > > Better still, if using yum to upgrade, install it after it's > completed > > (before reboot) > > Went ahead and just downgraded it before the upgrade. So far working > lot better, a

Re: Disabling drm/ttm/radeon module loading for debugging

2010-01-25 Thread Adam Williamson
On Sun, 2010-01-24 at 18:13 +0200, Pasi Kärkkäinen wrote: > Ok, I just also blacklisted the radeon/drm/ttm modules in > /etc/modprobe.d/ > and now they aren't loaded automatically anymore. For the record, for graphics modules, you need to double-blacklist them: blacklist in /etc/modprobe.d and ei

Re: gvfs causes hangs

2010-01-25 Thread Adam Williamson
On Sat, 2010-01-23 at 09:06 -0500, Steve Grubb wrote: > On Saturday 23 January 2010 08:53:08 am Mamoru Tasaka wrote: > > > Is this a defective file system or are a whole bunch of apps > needing to > > > be fixed? Also, do other people notice the same thing? > > > > Perhaps this issue: > > https:/

Re: Plan for tomorrow's (2010-01-26) FESCo meeting

2010-01-25 Thread Kevin Fenzi
One more feature for tomorrow's meeting: #323 Feature: Dynamic Firewall ( https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Features/DynamicFirewall ) kevin signature.asc Description: PGP signature -- devel mailing list devel@lists.fedoraproject.org https://admin.fedoraproject.org/mailman/listinfo/devel

Re: F12 to Rawhide upgrade

2010-01-25 Thread Mike Chambers
On Mon, 2010-01-25 at 23:03 +, Leigh Scott wrote: > Better still, if using yum to upgrade, install it after it's completed > (before reboot) Went ahead and just downgraded it before the upgrade. So far working lot better, although my login name still doesn't show up at the gdm/login screen.

Re: Unable to start X

2010-01-25 Thread darrell pfeifer
On Mon, Jan 25, 2010 at 14:29, Mike Chambers wrote: > On Mon, 2010-01-25 at 13:04 -0800, darrell pfeifer wrote: > > > > > There was some breakage recently with the graphic boot. Try hitting > > the escape key on boot to get the text startup instead. > > This an xorg-server issue or something else

Re: F12 to Rawhide upgrade

2010-01-25 Thread Leigh Scott
Better still, if using yum to upgrade, install it after it's completed (before reboot) On Mon, 2010-01-25 at 16:55 -0600, Mike Chambers wrote: > On Mon, 2010-01-25 at 22:50 +, Leigh Scott wrote: > > You need to manually fetch the f13 package from koji and install it > > using 'rpm -Uvh --oldpa

[389-devel] q about bug 554887 - Net::LDAP password modify extop breaks; msgid in response is 0xFF

2010-01-25 Thread Rich Megginson
https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=554887 The problem appears to be this - passwd_extop.c line 173: /* We copy the connection from the original pblock into the * pblock we use for the internal modify operation. We do * this to allow the password policy code to b

Re: F12 to Rawhide upgrade

2010-01-25 Thread Leigh Scott
I suppose you could install it just before upgrading ( you might need --nodeps ) , doing so would break X so avoid rebooting before the upgrade. On Mon, 2010-01-25 at 16:55 -0600, Mike Chambers wrote: > On Mon, 2010-01-25 at 22:50 +, Leigh Scott wrote: > > You need to manually fetch the f13 p

Re: F12 to Rawhide upgrade

2010-01-25 Thread Mike Chambers
On Mon, 2010-01-25 at 22:50 +, Leigh Scott wrote: > You need to manually fetch the f13 package from koji and install it > using 'rpm -Uvh --oldpackage ' > > http://koji.fedoraproject.org/koji/buildinfo?buildID=152224 > > I'm having no issues with keyboard/mouse So get that F13 version and in

Re: F12 to Rawhide upgrade

2010-01-25 Thread Leigh Scott
You need to manually fetch the f13 package from koji and install it using 'rpm -Uvh --oldpackage ' http://koji.fedoraproject.org/koji/buildinfo?buildID=152224 I'm having no issues with keyboard/mouse On Mon, 2010-01-25 at 16:43 -0600, Mike Chambers wrote: > On Mon, 2010-01-25 at 22:32 +, Lei

Re: F12 to Rawhide upgrade

2010-01-25 Thread Mike Chambers
On Mon, 2010-01-25 at 22:32 +, Leigh Scott wrote: > I had the same issue, it's due to the F12 xorg-x11-drv-nouveau version > being higher than the rawhide version. Soo, if one was to do the process again, cept use the F12 version instead (the nouveau driver) (xorg too?), it would work fine (in

Re: F12 to Rawhide upgrade

2010-01-25 Thread Leigh Scott
I had the same issue, it's due to the F12 xorg-x11-drv-nouveau version being higher than the rawhide version. On Mon, 2010-01-25 at 16:24 -0600, Mike Chambers wrote: > Over the weekend I tried this via yum and the upgrade/install part went > fine. But once I rebooted, the gui wouldn't work. Me

Re: Unable to start X

2010-01-25 Thread Mike Chambers
On Mon, 2010-01-25 at 13:04 -0800, darrell pfeifer wrote: > > There was some breakage recently with the graphic boot. Try hitting > the escape key on boot to get the text startup instead. This an xorg-server issue or something else? Cause I just posted bout this issue (see f12 to rawhide upgrad

F12 to Rawhide upgrade

2010-01-25 Thread Mike Chambers
Over the weekend I tried this via yum and the upgrade/install part went fine. But once I rebooted, the gui wouldn't work. Meaning, at the gdm/login screen, it was garbled. I downgraded xorg-x11-server-comment (was 1 or 2 packages total) to the F12 (may have been upgrade/test one) version, and th

Re: Unable to start X

2010-01-25 Thread darrell pfeifer
On Mon, Jan 25, 2010 at 08:59, Petrus de Calguarium wrote: > Paul F. Johnson wrote: > > > TTFN > > TTFN? Thanks to F'ing Nobody? > > > Any ideas on how to get my desktop to boot > > I am using Intel driver and I am also unable to get X to boot in rawhide. I > have > tried startx, putting 5 on the

Re: RFC: Remove write permissions from executables

2010-01-25 Thread Garrett Holmstrom
On Mon, Jan 25, 2010 at 11:54 AM, Till Maas wrote: > On Mon, Jan 25, 2010 at 12:45:26PM -0500, Mike McLean wrote: > >> Furthermore, when the user is root, the 0555 mode will not prevent >> writing as it would for normal users. > > It does not matter, whether the user is root, but whether he has th

Re: Review swap

2010-01-25 Thread Manuel Wolfshant
On 01/25/2010 09:03 PM, Julian Sikorski wrote: > Hi, > > I have an easy package to review, telepathy-sunshine. It is a Gadu Gadu > connection manager for telepathy. > https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=557546 > I'd happily swap reviews with something not too complex. > > Julian > >

Plan for tomorrow's (2010-01-26) FESCo meeting

2010-01-25 Thread Kevin Fenzi
Following is the list of topics that will be discussed in the FESCo meeting tomorrow at 20:00UTC (3pm EST) in #fedora-meeting on irc.freenode.net. Followups: #308 package-swift New business: #314 Wordpress bundles libraries #315 Feature: boot.fedoraproject.org ( https://fedoraproject.org/wik

Re: RFC: Remove write permissions from executables

2010-01-25 Thread Miloslav Trmač
Till Maas píše v Po 25. 01. 2010 v 18:58 +0100: > Is there a tracker about what else needs to be done to finish this up? Good idea, I have filed https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=558612 . (Realistically, this probably won't ever be "finished" because after handling the low-hanging fruit

Re: Multilib help?

2010-01-25 Thread Richard W.M. Jones
On Mon, Jan 25, 2010 at 02:08:10PM -0500, Bill Nottingham wrote: > - If the file in both packages is identical, installation is allowed > and the file is written > - If the file in both packages is an ELF binary, the file used is the > file in the package for the primary architecture > - If the

Re: Multilib help?

2010-01-25 Thread Bill Nottingham
Richard W.M. Jones (rjo...@redhat.com) said: > Is there better documentation on how multilib works and how to resolve > multilib problems than > http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/PackagingDrafts/MultilibTricks ? I > understand that it uses various heuristics before it corrupts files, > but those don'

Fedora Release Engineering meeting summary for 2010-01-25

2010-01-25 Thread Jesse Keating
Minutes: http://meetbot.fedoraproject.org/fedora-meeting/2010-01-25/fedora-releng.2010-01-25-18.05.html Minutes (text): http://meetbot.fedoraproject.org/fedora-meeting/2010-01-25/fedora-releng.2010-01-25-18.05.txt Log: http://meetbot.fedoraproject.org/fedora-meeting/2010-01-25/fedora-releng.2010-

Review swap

2010-01-25 Thread Julian Sikorski
Hi, I have an easy package to review, telepathy-sunshine. It is a Gadu Gadu connection manager for telepathy. https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=557546 I'd happily swap reviews with something not too complex. Julian -- devel mailing list devel@lists.fedoraproject.org https://admin.fedo

Multilib help?

2010-01-25 Thread Richard W.M. Jones
Is there better documentation on how multilib works and how to resolve multilib problems than http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/PackagingDrafts/MultilibTricks ? I understand that it uses various heuristics before it corrupts files, but those don't seem to be documented. I just spent half a day tracki

Re: RFC: Remove write permissions from executables

2010-01-25 Thread Mike McLean
On Mon, Jan 25, 2010 at 12:54 PM, Till Maas wrote: > It does not matter, whether the user is root, but whether he has the > dac_override capability. If you read the original mail (1st paragraph) > again with this in mind, you will understand the reason for the change. Thanks. Sorry for the noise.

Re: '/usr/bin/[' (was RE: FC12: Hidden files in /usr/bin/*)

2010-01-25 Thread Andreas Schwab
"Bryn M. Reeves" writes: > On Mon, 2010-01-25 at 17:44 +0100, Andreas Schwab wrote: >> "Bryn M. Reeves" writes: >> >> > [ may be a built in but then again (as its presence >> > in /usr/bin implies) it may not be :). >> >> Like any other command. > > But unlike '[[' which is the point I was re

Re: RFC: Remove write permissions from executables

2010-01-25 Thread Till Maas
On Fri, Jan 22, 2010 at 12:19:49PM +0100, Miloslav Trmač wrote: > We can extend the protection to all executables by a simple addition to > redhat-rpm-config (https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=556897 ). > After applying this patch, executable files in all rebuilt packages > would not be

Re: RFC: Remove write permissions from executables

2010-01-25 Thread Till Maas
On Mon, Jan 25, 2010 at 12:45:26PM -0500, Mike McLean wrote: > Furthermore, when the user is root, the 0555 mode will not prevent > writing as it would for normal users. It does not matter, whether the user is root, but whether he has the dac_override capability. If you read the original mail (1s

Re: RFC: Remove write permissions from executables

2010-01-25 Thread Mike McLean
2010/1/22 Miloslav Trmač : > We can extend the protection to all executables by a simple addition to > redhat-rpm-config (https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=556897 ). > After applying this patch, executable files in all rebuilt packages > would not be writeable, most often using mode 0555.

Re: ABRT frustrating for users and developers

2010-01-25 Thread Nils Philippsen
On Mon, 2010-01-18 at 11:17 +0100, Jan Kratochvil wrote: > On Mon, 18 Jan 2010 09:18:11 +0100, Jiri Moskovcak wrote: > > On 01/17/2010 05:57 PM, Christoph Wickert wrote: > > > 5. Instead of hashes the missing debuginfo packages should be > > > listed with n-v-r, so people can install t

Re: Unable to start X

2010-01-25 Thread Petrus de Calguarium
Paul F. Johnson wrote: > Ta Ta For Now I haven't heard that for a while. Yes, we use that here in .ca sometimes, too. > It's only me, only me and no-one else. ditto -- devel mailing list devel@lists.fedoraproject.org https://admin.fedoraproject.org/mailman/listinfo/devel

Re: Unable to start X

2010-01-25 Thread Paul F. Johnson
Hi, > > TTFN > > TTFN? Thanks to F'ing Nobody? Ta Ta For Now - old English was of signing off. Used normally during times of war so as not to demoralise those back home. > > Any ideas on how to get my desktop to boot > > I am using Intel driver and I am also unable to get X to boot in > rawh

Re: Unable to start X

2010-01-25 Thread Petrus de Calguarium
Paul F. Johnson wrote: > TTFN TTFN? Thanks to F'ing Nobody? > Any ideas on how to get my desktop to boot I am using Intel driver and I am also unable to get X to boot in rawhide. I have tried startx, putting 5 on the kernel boot line in grub, etc., to no avail. I get a mouse pointer superim

Re: What is the pulseaudio way of recording?

2010-01-25 Thread Paulo Cavalcanti
On Mon, Jan 25, 2010 at 6:58 AM, Paulo Cavalcanti wrote: > > > On Sun, Jan 24, 2010 at 10:31 PM, Paulo Cavalcanti wrote: > >> Hi, >> >> I have been recording using arecord and aplay this way: >> >> arecord -D default -d 0 -f cd | aplay -f cd -D default & >> >> The problem is that, while this work

Re: '/usr/bin/[' (was RE: FC12: Hidden files in /usr/bin/*)

2010-01-25 Thread Bryn M. Reeves
On Mon, 2010-01-25 at 17:44 +0100, Andreas Schwab wrote: > "Bryn M. Reeves" writes: > > > [ may be a built in but then again (as its presence > > in /usr/bin implies) it may not be :). > > Like any other command. But unlike '[[' which is the point I was replying to. Afaik you can't provide a '

Re: '/usr/bin/[' (was RE: FC12: Hidden files in /usr/bin/*)

2010-01-25 Thread Andreas Schwab
"Bryn M. Reeves" writes: > [ may be a built in but then again (as its presence > in /usr/bin implies) it may not be :). Like any other command. Andreas. -- Andreas Schwab, sch...@redhat.com GPG Key fingerprint = D4E8 DBE3 3813 BB5D FA84 5EC7 45C6 250E 6F00 984E "And now for something comple

yelp failing to build with new ld linker

2010-01-25 Thread Roland Grunberg
Hi, Upon doing a mock build of yelp-2.28.1-2.fc13 with the new version of binutils (containing the proposed DSO link changes to ld) from http://roland.fedorapeople.org/ld-test/, the build fails. /usr/bin/ld.bfd: /usr/lib/xulrunner-sdk-1.9.2/lib/libxpcomglue.a(nsGlueLinkingDlopen.o): undefined r

Re: '/usr/bin/[' (was RE: FC12: Hidden files in /usr/bin/*)

2010-01-25 Thread Bryn M. Reeves
On Mon, 2010-01-25 at 16:44 +0100, Andreas Schwab wrote: > Garrett Holmstrom writes: > > > On Mon, Jan 25, 2010 at 6:09 AM, Bryn M. Reeves wrote: > >> It's cute isn't it? I had the biggest grin the day I realised that '[' > >> was just another command.. > > > > That's the reason [[ can use speci

Re: '/usr/bin/[' (was RE: FC12: Hidden files in /usr/bin/*)

2010-01-25 Thread Andreas Schwab
Garrett Holmstrom writes: > On Mon, Jan 25, 2010 at 6:09 AM, Bryn M. Reeves wrote: >> It's cute isn't it? I had the biggest grin the day I realised that '[' >> was just another command.. > > That's the reason [[ can use special characters like < and > without > escaping, while [ can't: [[ is a

Re: Orphaning xerces-c

2010-01-25 Thread Xavier Bachelot
On 01/25/2010 03:17 PM, Lubomir Rintel wrote: > On Mon, 2010-01-25 at 16:54 +0300, Peter Lemenkov wrote: >> Hello! >> 2010/1/25 Lubomir Rintel: >>> On Mon, 2010-01-25 at 16:15 +0300, Peter Lemenkov wrote: Hello All! I'm no longer using Xerces-C, so I believe, I can't maintain it anymore.

Re: '/usr/bin/[' (was RE: FC12: Hidden files in /usr/bin/*)

2010-01-25 Thread Garrett Holmstrom
On Mon, Jan 25, 2010 at 6:09 AM, Bryn M. Reeves wrote: > It's cute isn't it? I had the biggest grin the day I realised that '[' > was just another command.. That's the reason [[ can use special characters like < and > without escaping, while [ can't: [[ is a builtin, but [ isn't. -- Garrett Hol

Re: [389-devel] Spelling typos

2010-01-25 Thread Rich Megginson
Michele Baldessari wrote: > Hi all, > > a couple of one liners to fix spelling typos. (Against 1.2.5) > Thanks - https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=558518 > regards, > Michele > > diff -urNad trunk~/ldap/servers/plugins/chainingdb/cb_conn_stateless.c > trunk/ldap/servers/plugins/chaini

Unable to start X

2010-01-25 Thread Paul F. Johnson
Hi, I'm using the nvidia 7600 video card with the neuveau driver (not using the commerical driver, just the fedora shipped one). I did a rawhide update on Saturday and it looks like something there has borked my system. I had a power outage last night and had to reboot. It doesn't matter which ver

Re: Orphaning xerces-c

2010-01-25 Thread Patrice Dumas
On Mon, Jan 25, 2010 at 03:17:05PM +0100, Lubomir Rintel wrote: > > Unfortunately, I've got difficulties while releasing ownership ( > > https://fedorahosted.org/packagedb/ticket/173 ). > > I've seen that once too; I believe it's supposed to be a feature that > reassigns the package to another mai

Re: Orphaning xerces-c

2010-01-25 Thread Lubomir Rintel
On Mon, 2010-01-25 at 16:54 +0300, Peter Lemenkov wrote: > Hello! > > 2010/1/25 Lubomir Rintel : > > On Mon, 2010-01-25 at 16:15 +0300, Peter Lemenkov wrote: > >> Hello All! > >> I'm no longer using Xerces-C, so I believe, I can't maintain it > >> anymore. Feel free to pick it up. Any volunteers?

Re: texlive-2009 pdflatex doesn't work (sometimes)

2010-01-25 Thread Matthew Saltzman
On Mon, 2010-01-25 at 11:50 +, José Matos wrote: > On Sunday 24 January 2010 12:18:23 Mary Ellen Foster wrote: > > 2010/1/23 Matthew Saltzman : > > >$ pdflatex simple.tex > > >This is pdfTeX, Version 3.1415926-1.40.10 (Web2C 2009) > > > > > >kpathsea: Running mktexfmt

Re: Orphaning xerces-c

2010-01-25 Thread Peter Lemenkov
Hello! 2010/1/25 Lubomir Rintel : > On Mon, 2010-01-25 at 16:15 +0300, Peter Lemenkov wrote: >> Hello All! >> I'm no longer using Xerces-C, so I believe, I can't maintain it >> anymore. Feel free to pick it up. Any volunteers? > > I use it with VirtualBox-OSE (thanks to Xavier for pointing me here

Re: Orphaning xerces-c

2010-01-25 Thread Lubomir Rintel
On Mon, 2010-01-25 at 16:15 +0300, Peter Lemenkov wrote: > Hello All! > I'm no longer using Xerces-C, so I believe, I can't maintain it > anymore. Feel free to pick it up. Any volunteers? I use it with VirtualBox-OSE (thanks to Xavier for pointing me here). I won't mind picking the package up. --

rawhide report: 20100125 changes

2010-01-25 Thread Rawhide Report
Compose started at Mon Jan 25 08:15:14 UTC 2010 Broken deps for i386 -- PyKDE-3.16.6-1.fc13.i686 requires sip-api(6) >= 0:6.0 doodle-0.6.7-5.fc12.i686 requires libextractor.so.1 easystroke-0.5.2-1.fc13.i686 requires li

Orphaning xerces-c

2010-01-25 Thread Peter Lemenkov
Hello All! I'm no longer using Xerces-C, so I believe, I can't maintain it anymore. Feel free to pick it up. Any volunteers? -- With best regards, Peter Lemenkov. -- devel mailing list devel@lists.fedoraproject.org https://admin.fedoraproject.org/mailman/listinfo/devel

Re: '/usr/bin/[' (was RE: FC12: Hidden files in /usr/bin/*)

2010-01-25 Thread Bryn M. Reeves
On Fri, 2010-01-22 at 08:41 -0800, Cleaver, Japheth wrote: > > Denis Leroy > > what about '/usr/bin/[', part of cureutils... had never > > noticed this one before. > > > > -denis > > > Isn't that simply what makes "if [ (blah) ]" work? It's cute isn't it? I had the biggest grin the day I reali

Re: texlive-2009 pdflatex doesn't work (sometimes)

2010-01-25 Thread José Matos
On Sunday 24 January 2010 12:18:23 Mary Ellen Foster wrote: > 2010/1/23 Matthew Saltzman : > >$ pdflatex simple.tex > >This is pdfTeX, Version 3.1415926-1.40.10 (Web2C 2009) > > > >kpathsea: Running mktexfmt pdflatex.fmt > >I can't find the format file `pdflatex.fmt

Re: Missing iwl5150-firmware package?

2010-01-25 Thread drago01
On Mon, Jan 25, 2010 at 12:18 AM, Arjan van de Ven wrote: > On Sun, 24 Jan 2010 20:26:10 +0100 > drago01 wrote: > >> On Sun, Jan 24, 2010 at 7:44 PM, Jonathan Dieter >> wrote: >> > Is there some reason we don't have a iwl5150-firmware package?  Or >> > that /lib/firmware/iwlwifi-5150-2.ucode isn

Re: What is the pulseaudio way of recording?

2010-01-25 Thread Paulo Cavalcanti
On Sun, Jan 24, 2010 at 10:31 PM, Paulo Cavalcanti wrote: > Hi, > > I have been recording using arecord and aplay this way: > > arecord -D default -d 0 -f cd | aplay -f cd -D default & > > The problem is that, while this works fine on rhel5, the same is no true > for Fedora 12 using pulseaudio, s