Re: apt-fast

2010-01-18 Thread Ralf Corsepius
On 01/18/2010 10:36 PM, Conrad Meyer wrote: > On Monday 18 January 2010 08:07:44 am Josephine Tannhäuser wrote: >> should be possible, we have an (old but we have one) apt > > I thought apt-rpm was broken since the rpm 4.7.x (or is that the right > version) changes? It was broken for quite a while

Re: Plan for tomorrow's (2010-01-19) FESCo meeting

2010-01-18 Thread Adam Williamson
On Mon, 2010-01-18 at 17:32 -0700, Kevin Fenzi wrote: > #297 Please consider the idea of a security (privilege escalation) > policy I'm not likely to have the draft policy ready by meeting time, so there may not be much to say about this one. Might be best to punt it to the following week. -- Ad

Re: how to speed up mock?

2010-01-18 Thread Adam Williamson
On Mon, 2010-01-18 at 15:30 -0500, Tony Nelson wrote: > On 10-01-18 11:34:44, Ville Skyttä wrote: > ... > > So instead of modifying specfiles, one can do something like this in > > > /etc/mock/site-defaults.cfg: > > > > config_opts['macros']['%_smp_mflags'] = '-j3' > > Unless `rpmbuild --showrc`

Re: Orphaning Candidate packages for removal due to FTBFS, implications

2010-01-18 Thread Adam Williamson
On Mon, 2010-01-18 at 11:55 -0800, Jesse Keating wrote: > On Mon, 2010-01-18 at 20:44 +0100, Till Maas wrote: > > > > Imho the only real problem from your list is, if a package is > > unmaintained, because if it is maintained, the maintainer usually > uses > > it, otherwise he would just drop it.

Re: Orphaning Candidate packages for removal due to FTBFS, implications

2010-01-18 Thread Adam Williamson
On Mon, 2010-01-18 at 12:25 -0500, Seth Vidal wrote: > If we do that check before the alpha release that should let us track > down > awol maintainers and unmaintained pkgs pretty easily, I think. > > thoughts? There's trivial packages which simply don't really need touching. I just updated con

Re: how to speed up mock?

2010-01-18 Thread Adam Williamson
On Mon, 2010-01-18 at 10:10 -0500, Seth Vidal wrote: > So the first time you run it makes a cache. You aren't clearing out > the > cache each time, are you? That would definitely eat up a lot of time. Or running builds a long time apart, as the cache gets aged out. On my system (an overclocked Q

Re: ABRT frustrating for users and developers

2010-01-18 Thread Adam Williamson
On Sun, 2010-01-17 at 17:49 +, Camilo Mesias wrote: > > Someone else asked this earlier - but why do users need the > debug-info > > packages - only the debugger looking at the tracebacks needs this. > So > > seems installing the debug files on every desktop/server that has a > > problem is mu

Re: Navit: Re: Any takers for gpsdrive ?

2010-01-18 Thread Adam Williamson
On Sun, 2010-01-17 at 09:54 -0700, Linuxguy123 wrote: > In case you aren't aware, people are still trying to get Navit ready > for > F12. > > https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=485652 > > Navit has a routing engine and it seems to run fine on other > platforms. > I think if I had to c

Re: ABRT frustrating for users and developers

2010-01-18 Thread Adam Williamson
On Sun, 2010-01-17 at 15:12 +0100, Christoph Wickert wrote: > I doubt this very much. Many people don't report the bugs when the app > crashes but later, many reports in a row. Most of my reports read "I > have no idea what I was doing when foo crashed", even if they > submitted > it straight afte

Re: ABRT frustrating for users and developers

2010-01-18 Thread Adam Williamson
On Sat, 2010-01-16 at 16:01 +0100, Christoph Wickert wrote: > Con: > > * Unfortunately 3 out of ~ 40 reports is not a good percentage. Approximately the same as manual reports, in my experience. > * As already pointed out by Michael Schwendt some time ago, > there > were som

Building sources twice

2010-01-18 Thread Toshio Kuratomi
We have a few packages that need to build themselves from their sources twice. For instance, vim builds three times (a minimal version for /bin/vi, and two versions with more dependencies for /usr/bin/vim and /usr/bin/gvim). Working on the python3 Guidelines, it looks like we'll have some more wi

libdrm vs mesa updates - update group for bodhi?

2010-01-18 Thread Dave Airlie
So I say libdrm was going to be karma'ed into updates, and I thought I'd disabled that but it all got confused a few days ago. So I thought well I better push all the packages that depends on it into updates as well, and they'll all end up in one signing pass and everyone will be happy. Now someh

Re: Fedora 13 Feature Submission Deadline :: January 26th

2010-01-18 Thread Dennis Gilmore
On Monday 18 January 2010 08:30:46 pm Mike McGrath wrote: > On Mon, 18 Jan 2010, John Poelstra wrote: > > A friendly reminder that the deadline for *submitting new features and > > spins* for inclusion in Fedora 13 is coming soon! > > > > >> Feature Submission: Tuesday, January 26, 2010 << > >

Re: Can MMX be expected to be supported for F12+?

2010-01-18 Thread Toshio Kuratomi
On Tue, Jan 19, 2010 at 12:31:11AM +0200, Manuel Wolfshant wrote: > On 01/19/2010 12:18 AM, Till Maas wrote: > > Hiyas, > > > > now that F12+ is built for i686, can I expect that all Fedora x83 > > supported CPUs in F12+ support MMX? I have a package (john) that can > > then be made simpler. > > >

Re: Fedora 13 Feature Submission Deadline :: January 26th

2010-01-18 Thread Mike McGrath
On Mon, 18 Jan 2010, John Poelstra wrote: > A friendly reminder that the deadline for *submitting new features and > spins* for inclusion in Fedora 13 is coming soon! > > >> Feature Submission: Tuesday, January 26, 2010 << > > >> Feature Freeze: Tuesday, February 9, 2010 << > > "At Featu

Enhanced Freeze Policy Pages--feedback requested

2010-01-18 Thread John Poelstra
Thanks to the help of a few people in Release Engineering and elsewhere I've tuned up the wiki pages describing each of our freezes. The policies remain the same, but the pages have been updated to hopefully enhance the presentation and readability. One of my goals for this release is to have

Fedora 13 Feature Submission Deadline :: January 26th

2010-01-18 Thread John Poelstra
A friendly reminder that the deadline for *submitting new features and spins* for inclusion in Fedora 13 is coming soon! >> Feature Submission: Tuesday, January 26, 2010 << >> Feature Freeze: Tuesday, February 9, 2010 << "At Feature Freeze all new features for the release should be sub

Call for Fedora 13 Test Days

2010-01-18 Thread Adam Williamson
Hi, folks. It's about time we kicked the Fedora 13 Test Day cycle into gear! For those who haven't had experience yet with the Test Day concept, here's an overview: https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/QA/Test_Days and here's the Fedora 12 Test Day schedule, so you can see what a completed cycle looks

Plan for tomorrow's (2010-01-19) FESCo meeting

2010-01-18 Thread Kevin Fenzi
Following is the list of topics that will be discussed in the FESCo meeting tomorrow at 20:00UTC (3pm EST) in #fedora-meeting on irc.freenode.net. Followups: #298 Revoke Paul Johnsons pacakger access and put him on probation. #291 Man pages Packaging Guideline #302 libssh2 - non-responsive maint

Re: Can MMX be expected to be supported for F12+?

2010-01-18 Thread Garrett Holmstrom
On 1/18/2010 16:31, Manuel Wolfshant wrote: > On 01/19/2010 12:18 AM, Till Maas wrote: >> now that F12+ is built for i686, can I expect that all Fedora x83 >> supported CPUs in F12+ support MMX? I have a package (john) that can >> then be made simpler. > > I'd say that you certainly can. Even Via S

Re: Can MMX be expected to be supported for F12+?

2010-01-18 Thread Manuel Wolfshant
On 01/19/2010 12:18 AM, Till Maas wrote: > Hiyas, > > now that F12+ is built for i686, can I expect that all Fedora x83 > supported CPUs in F12+ support MMX? I have a package (john) that can > then be made simpler. > > Regards > Till > I'd say that you certainly can. Even Via Samuel is MMX enabl

dist-git refresh

2010-01-18 Thread Jesse Keating
Just an FYI that I've refreshed the repos at pkgs.stg.fedoraproject.org . I had picked up some tips on setting up the repos a bit better and so I've done that. Anybody with existing clones will have to remove them and re-clone. -- Jesse Keating Fedora -- Freedom² is a feature! identi.ca: http:/

Can MMX be expected to be supported for F12+?

2010-01-18 Thread Till Maas
Hiyas, now that F12+ is built for i686, can I expect that all Fedora x83 supported CPUs in F12+ support MMX? I have a package (john) that can then be made simpler. Regards Till pgpVVgY0nqkQi.pgp Description: PGP signature -- devel mailing list devel@lists.fedoraproject.org https://admin.fedora

Re: Orphaning Candidate packages for removal due to FTBFS, implications

2010-01-18 Thread Dennis Gilmore
On Monday 18 January 2010 03:39:47 pm Jesse Keating wrote: > On Mon, 2010-01-18 at 16:22 -0500, Seth Vidal wrote: > > I've not heard any other solutions which aren't "oh just let it be." > > It might have been missed in the passing but: > > We have to reset our bugzilla password frequently > We

Re: ABRT useful for this user

2010-01-18 Thread Paul W. Frields
On Mon, Jan 18, 2010 at 01:59:27PM -0700, Stephen John Smoogen wrote: > I just wanted to say thanks to the guys who integrated ABRT into F12. > It has rough edges and I know it needs improvement, but I have filed > more 'bugs' than in many past releases where instead I just let things > slide. Most

Re: Orphaning Candidate packages for removal due to FTBFS, implications

2010-01-18 Thread Jesse Keating
On Mon, 2010-01-18 at 22:51 +0100, Michael Schwendt wrote: > On Mon, 18 Jan 2010 20:01:23 +0100, Tomas wrote: > > > I think there should be at least two conditions which would have to be > > fulfilled for the nagging bug to be created - the package was not > > touched by the maintainer during rece

Re: Any takers for gpsdrive ?

2010-01-18 Thread Christopher Brown
2010/1/17 Michael Schwendt : > On Sat, 16 Jan 2010 11:46:27 -0700, Kevin wrote: > >> Greetings. >> >> I'd like to find some folks interested in co-maintaining or just fully >> maintaining gpsdrive. It's a nifty gps app that lets you download maps >> and follow progress and publish your location. >>

Re: Orphaning Candidate packages for removal due to FTBFS, implications

2010-01-18 Thread Michael Schwendt
On Mon, 18 Jan 2010 20:01:23 +0100, Tomas wrote: > I think there should be at least two conditions which would have to be > fulfilled for the nagging bug to be created - the package was not > touched by the maintainer during recent x months and at least one bug is > opened not closed in the bugzil

Re: Orphaning Candidate packages for removal due to FTBFS, implications

2010-01-18 Thread Jesse Keating
On Mon, 2010-01-18 at 13:39 -0800, Jesse Keating wrote: > It might have been missed in the passing but: > > We have to reset our bugzilla password frequently > We have to renew our Koji cert once a year > > We should be able to detect when either of those goes wrong, probably > easiest to do the

Re: Orphaning Candidate packages for removal due to FTBFS, implications

2010-01-18 Thread Jesse Keating
On Mon, 2010-01-18 at 15:08 -0500, Toshio Kuratomi wrote: > On Mon, Jan 18, 2010 at 11:55:13AM -0800, Jesse Keating wrote: > > On Mon, 2010-01-18 at 20:44 +0100, Till Maas wrote: > > > > > > Imho the only real problem from your list is, if a package is > > > unmaintained, because if it is maintain

Re: Orphaning Candidate packages for removal due to FTBFS, implications

2010-01-18 Thread Jesse Keating
On Mon, 2010-01-18 at 16:22 -0500, Seth Vidal wrote: > I've not heard any other solutions which aren't "oh just let it be." It might have been missed in the passing but: We have to reset our bugzilla password frequently We have to renew our Koji cert once a year We should be able to detect when

Re: apt-fast

2010-01-18 Thread Conrad Meyer
On Monday 18 January 2010 08:07:44 am Josephine Tannhäuser wrote: > should be possible, we have an (old but we have one) apt I thought apt-rpm was broken since the rpm 4.7.x (or is that the right version) changes? Regards, -- Conrad Meyer -- devel mailing list devel@lists.fedoraproject.org ht

Re: how to speed up mock?

2010-01-18 Thread Ville Skyttä
On Monday 18 January 2010, Tony Nelson wrote: > On 10-01-18 11:34:44, Ville Skyttä wrote: > ... > > > So instead of modifying specfiles, one can do something like this in > > /etc/mock/site-defaults.cfg: > > > > config_opts['macros']['%_smp_mflags'] = '-j3' > > Unless `rpmbuild --showrc` shows a

Re: Orphaning Candidate packages for removal due to FTBFS, implications

2010-01-18 Thread Seth Vidal
On Mon, 18 Jan 2010, Till Maas wrote: > On Mon, Jan 18, 2010 at 02:55:36PM -0500, Seth Vidal wrote: > >> Yes, I believe the expression you're looking for is: >> >> "Perfect is the enemy of the good" >> >> What is being suggested is not perfect. It is, however, good. > > Here we disagree. As I ex

Re: Orphaning Candidate packages for removal due to FTBFS, implications

2010-01-18 Thread Seth Vidal
On Mon, 18 Jan 2010, Till Maas wrote: >> Often maintainers don't realize they have some of these packages, or the >> maintainers have left the project. > > Do maintainer really "often" forget, that they own a certain package? > Ok, maybe if they are forced to do this from Red Hat, I do not know.

Re: how to speed up mock?

2010-01-18 Thread Tony Nelson
On 10-01-18 11:34:44, Ville Skyttä wrote: ... > So instead of modifying specfiles, one can do something like this in > /etc/mock/site-defaults.cfg: > > config_opts['macros']['%_smp_mflags'] = '-j3' Unless `rpmbuild --showrc` shows a bad definition for _smp_mflags, you're probably better off let

Re: Orphaning Candidate packages for removal due to FTBFS, implications

2010-01-18 Thread Till Maas
On Mon, Jan 18, 2010 at 11:55:13AM -0800, Jesse Keating wrote: > On Mon, 2010-01-18 at 20:44 +0100, Till Maas wrote: > > > > Imho the only real problem from your list is, if a package is > > unmaintained, because if it is maintained, the maintainer usually uses > > it, otherwise he would just drop

ABRT useful for this user

2010-01-18 Thread Stephen John Smoogen
I just wanted to say thanks to the guys who integrated ABRT into F12. It has rough edges and I know it needs improvement, but I have filed more 'bugs' than in many past releases where instead I just let things slide. Most of the items I have run into have been fixed and I have tried to help the eng

Re: Orphaning Candidate packages for removal due to FTBFS, implications

2010-01-18 Thread Till Maas
On Mon, Jan 18, 2010 at 02:55:36PM -0500, Seth Vidal wrote: > Yes, I believe the expression you're looking for is: > > "Perfect is the enemy of the good" > > What is being suggested is not perfect. It is, however, good. Here we disagree. As I explained I see little use in it, since there are ot

Re: Orphaning Candidate packages for removal due to FTBFS, implications

2010-01-18 Thread Toshio Kuratomi
On Mon, Jan 18, 2010 at 11:55:13AM -0800, Jesse Keating wrote: > On Mon, 2010-01-18 at 20:44 +0100, Till Maas wrote: > > > > Imho the only real problem from your list is, if a package is > > unmaintained, because if it is maintained, the maintainer usually uses > > it, otherwise he would just drop

Re: Orphaning Candidate packages for removal due to FTBFS, implications

2010-01-18 Thread Tomas Mraz
On Mon, 2010-01-18 at 11:55 -0800, Jesse Keating wrote: > On Mon, 2010-01-18 at 20:44 +0100, Till Maas wrote: > > > > Imho the only real problem from your list is, if a package is > > unmaintained, because if it is maintained, the maintainer usually uses > > it, otherwise he would just drop it. I

Re: Orphaning Candidate packages for removal due to FTBFS, implications

2010-01-18 Thread Jesse Keating
On Mon, 2010-01-18 at 20:44 +0100, Till Maas wrote: > > Imho the only real problem from your list is, if a package is > unmaintained, because if it is maintained, the maintainer usually uses > it, otherwise he would just drop it. If upstream is dead but the > maintainer fixes bugs, when they are f

Re: Orphaning Candidate packages for removal due to FTBFS, implications

2010-01-18 Thread Seth Vidal
On Mon, 18 Jan 2010, Till Maas wrote: > First of all, that would be two bug reports per year, as we have a 6 > month development cycle. But it also will not be that useful, as we > already have three things that have to be done by every maintainer once > or twice a year, so they can be easily us

Re: Orphaning Candidate packages for removal due to FTBFS, implications

2010-01-18 Thread Jesse Keating
On Mon, 2010-01-18 at 20:24 +0100, Tomas Mraz wrote: > So that means that for example for the openoffice.org-dict-cs_CZ package > I'll get the nag bug report before each and every Fedora release? > > It is definitely not 4. however 1. and 2. apply to it. As this is just a > czech spelling and hyph

Re: Orphaning Candidate packages for removal due to FTBFS, implications

2010-01-18 Thread Till Maas
On Mon, Jan 18, 2010 at 02:32:10PM -0500, Seth Vidal wrote: > I have another radical idea - we could whitelist all sorts of things which > are unchanging and yet used. We could act like reasonable folks and > realize that one extra bug report A YEAR that you have to close as 'fixed' > is really

Re: Orphaning Candidate packages for removal due to FTBFS, implications

2010-01-18 Thread Till Maas
On Mon, Jan 18, 2010 at 02:04:14PM -0500, Seth Vidal wrote: > I disagree about the bug being open. A lack of filed bugs could mean that > no one CARES about the pkg at all. And if we have pkgs which are not being > maintained AND no one cares enough to file a bug about then either they > are: >

Re: [389-devel] Please review: Allow modrdn to move subtree and rename non-leaf node

2010-01-18 Thread Andrey Ivanov
>> I ran the test suite that covers these functionalities.  So far, I haven't >> seen any breakage.  But I might be missing something important, so your >> reviews would be greatly appreciated. > > I'm pretty sure the referential integrity plug-in will not work for > modrdn operations with a new su

Re: Orphaning Candidate packages for removal due to FTBFS, implications

2010-01-18 Thread Seth Vidal
On Mon, 18 Jan 2010, Tomas Mraz wrote: > On Mon, 2010-01-18 at 14:04 -0500, Seth Vidal wrote: >> >> On Mon, 18 Jan 2010, Tomas Mraz wrote: >> >>> I think there should be at least two conditions which would have to be >>> fulfilled for the nagging bug to be created - the package was not >>> touch

Re: how to handle a gui- and non-gui-version of the same library/soname

2010-01-18 Thread Milos Jakubicek
On 18.1.2010 13:17, Stephen Gallagher wrote: > -BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- > Hash: SHA1 > > On 01/17/2010 09:04 AM, Milos Jakubicek wrote: >> Hi all, >> >> is there any good way how to handle the situation described at >> >> https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=528524 >> >> ? >> >> I.

Re: Orphaning Candidate packages for removal due to FTBFS, implications

2010-01-18 Thread Tomas Mraz
On Mon, 2010-01-18 at 14:04 -0500, Seth Vidal wrote: > > On Mon, 18 Jan 2010, Tomas Mraz wrote: > > > I think there should be at least two conditions which would have to be > > fulfilled for the nagging bug to be created - the package was not > > touched by the maintainer during recent x months

Re: Orphaning Candidate packages for removal due to FTBFS, implications

2010-01-18 Thread Seth Vidal
On Mon, 18 Jan 2010, Tomas Mraz wrote: > I think there should be at least two conditions which would have to be > fulfilled for the nagging bug to be created - the package was not > touched by the maintainer during recent x months and at least one bug is > opened not closed in the bugzilla on th

Re: Orphaning Candidate packages for removal due to FTBFS, implications

2010-01-18 Thread Tomas Mraz
On Mon, 2010-01-18 at 12:25 -0500, Seth Vidal wrote: > > On Mon, 18 Jan 2010, Bill Nottingham wrote: > > > Ugh, this seems like it would just create a lot of make-work for the > > common case where packages *are* maintained. Perhaps only do this > > for packages that appear via some criteria (ha

[Bug 508194] RFE: split /usr/bin/padre into own subpackage

2010-01-18 Thread bugzilla
Please do not reply directly to this email. All additional comments should be made in the comments box of this bug. https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=508194 Chris Weyl changed: What|Removed |Added

Fedora Release Engineering meeting summary for 2010-01-18

2010-01-18 Thread Jesse Keating
Minutes: http://meetbot.fedoraproject.org/fedora-meeting/2010-01-18/fedora-releng.2010-01-18-18.02.html Minutes (text): http://meetbot.fedoraproject.org/fedora-meeting/2010-01-18/fedora-releng.2010-01-18-18.02.txt Log: http://meetbot.fedoraproject.org/fedora-meeting/2010-01-18/fedora-releng.2010-

Re: how to speed up mock?

2010-01-18 Thread Till Maas
On Mon, Jan 18, 2010 at 04:05:05PM +0100, Farkas Levente wrote: > the real bottleneck is not the rpmbuild itself (with ccache it cab be > very fast), but the mock surroundings. suppose there is build which > takes about 2 minutes and in mock it takes about 5 minutes:-( > most of the time is in y

Re: Orphaning Candidate packages for removal due to FTBFS, implications

2010-01-18 Thread Seth Vidal
On Mon, 18 Jan 2010, Till Maas wrote: > On Mon, Jan 18, 2010 at 12:25:44PM -0500, Seth Vidal wrote: >> >> >> On Mon, 18 Jan 2010, Bill Nottingham wrote: >> >>> Ugh, this seems like it would just create a lot of make-work for the >>> common case where packages *are* maintained. Perhaps only do th

Re: Orphaning Candidate packages for removal due to FTBFS, implications

2010-01-18 Thread Till Maas
On Mon, Jan 18, 2010 at 12:25:44PM -0500, Seth Vidal wrote: > > > On Mon, 18 Jan 2010, Bill Nottingham wrote: > > > Ugh, this seems like it would just create a lot of make-work for the > > common case where packages *are* maintained. Perhaps only do this > > for packages that appear via some cri

Package Review Stats for last 7 days ending 17th Jan

2010-01-18 Thread Rakesh Pandit
Top three FAS account holders who have completed reviewing "Package review" components on bugzilla for last 7 days ending 17th Jan were Parag AN(पराग), Christoph Wickert and Michal Fojtik. Parag AN(पराग) : 7 https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=552253 https://bugzilla.redha

Re: Orphaning Candidate packages for removal due to FTBFS, implications

2010-01-18 Thread Seth Vidal
On Mon, 18 Jan 2010, Bill Nottingham wrote: > Ugh, this seems like it would just create a lot of make-work for the > common case where packages *are* maintained. Perhaps only do this > for packages that appear via some criteria (have not been built, have > not been committed to, have lots of bug

Re: Orphaning Candidate packages for removal due to FTBFS, implications

2010-01-18 Thread Bill Nottingham
Matt Domsch (matt_dom...@dell.com) said: > > With nobody handling the incoming bugzilla tickets. With some bug > > reports having been killed in an automated way at dist EOL. And > > worse if it turns out that packages which do build are unmaintained > > nevertheless, with the same symptoms in bug

License change for PySolFC and PySolFC-cardsets (GPLv2+ to GPLv3+)

2010-01-18 Thread Stewart Adam
PySolFC and PySolFC-cardsets 2.0 were announced recently [1] and as of this update the license has changed from GPLv2+ to GPLv3+. If nothing comes up, I'll update to 2.0 on F-11, F-12 and devel in a few days. Stewart [1] http://pysolfc.sourceforge.net/ -- devel mailing list devel@lists.fedorap

Re: apt-fast

2010-01-18 Thread Panu Matilainen
On Mon, 18 Jan 2010, Seth Vidal wrote: > > On Mon, 18 Jan 2010, Josephine Tannhäuser wrote: > >> should be possible, we have an (old but we have one) apt >> > > unless I'm reading that forum thread wrong - it sure seems like apt-fast > requires axel's repo? If that's true then I think it nixes an

Re: how to speed up mock?

2010-01-18 Thread Clark Williams
On Mon, 18 Jan 2010 18:34:44 +0200 Ville Skyttä wrote: > On Monday 18 January 2010, Clark Williams wrote: > > > If package build times are your problem, you may want to modify the > > make command used by the specfiles. Mock just does what the specfile > > says to do (i.e. it just does an rpmbui

Re: how to speed up mock?

2010-01-18 Thread Ville Skyttä
On Monday 18 January 2010, Clark Williams wrote: > If package build times are your problem, you may want to modify the > make command used by the specfiles. Mock just does what the specfile > says to do (i.e. it just does an rpmbuild), so you might want to add a > '-j16' to the make command line t

Re: how to speed up mock?

2010-01-18 Thread Ville Skyttä
On Monday 18 January 2010, Seth Vidal wrote: > On Mon, 18 Jan 2010, Farkas Levente wrote: > > the real bottleneck is not the rpmbuild itself (with ccache it cab be > > very fast), but the mock surroundings. suppose there is build which > > takes about 2 minutes and in mock it takes about 5 minutes:

Re: how to speed up mock?

2010-01-18 Thread Clark Williams
On Mon, 18 Jan 2010 15:38:56 +0100 Farkas Levente wrote: > hi, > we use mock for local package build, but it's very slow. now we install > a new host just for mock with 8core, ram disks etc. it seems it still > slow. first of all most of the time mock use only one 1 core of the cpu. > is there

Re: apt-fast

2010-01-18 Thread Seth Vidal
On Mon, 18 Jan 2010, Josephine Tannhäuser wrote: should be possible, we have an (old but we have one) apt unless I'm reading that forum thread wrong - it sure seems like apt-fast requires axel's repo? If that's true then I think it nixes any chance of the pkg getting into fedora. -sv --

Re: apt-fast

2010-01-18 Thread Josephine Tannhäuser
should be possible, we have an (old but we have one) apt 2010/1/18, A. Mani : > See > http://www.pclinuxos.com/forum/index.php?PHPSESSID=3t030sj3bgqk77dgetcvtueji1&topic=66385.15 > > can it be packaged for Fedora? > > > Best > > A. Mani > > > -- > A. Mani > ASL, CLC, AMS, CMS > http://www.logicam

apt-fast

2010-01-18 Thread A. Mani
See http://www.pclinuxos.com/forum/index.php?PHPSESSID=3t030sj3bgqk77dgetcvtueji1&topic=66385.15 can it be packaged for Fedora? Best A. Mani -- A. Mani ASL, CLC, AMS, CMS http://www.logicamani.co.cc -- devel mailing list devel@lists.fedoraproject.org https://admin.fedoraproject.org/mailma

Re: how to speed up mock?

2010-01-18 Thread Seth Vidal
Farkas, Don't email just to me offlist. Keep this onlist. >> >> How much of this is network access and how much is disk? B/c I doubt >> very much that you're cpu bound at all. > > everything is on the local mirror server which is on a gigabit lan. is there > any way to banchmark mock and dif

Re: how to speed up mock?

2010-01-18 Thread Seth Vidal
On Mon, 18 Jan 2010, Farkas Levente wrote: >> >> the tar and gzip are mostly BUILDING the cache. > > no tar and gzip used unpacking root cache. > How slow are your disks? You're not doing any of this to nfs are you? > but have to run yum each time for the package specific depsolve and yum >

Re: how to speed up mock?

2010-01-18 Thread Farkas Levente
On 01/18/2010 04:10 PM, Seth Vidal wrote: > > > On Mon, 18 Jan 2010, Farkas Levente wrote: > >> the real bottleneck is not the rpmbuild itself (with ccache it cab be >> very fast), but the mock surroundings. suppose there is build which >> takes about 2 minutes and in mock it takes about 5 minutes:

Re: how to speed up mock?

2010-01-18 Thread Stephen Gallagher
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 On 01/18/2010 10:05 AM, Farkas Levente wrote: > On 01/18/2010 03:49 PM, Stephen Gallagher wrote: >> -BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- >> Hash: SHA1 >> >> On 01/18/2010 09:38 AM, Farkas Levente wrote: >>> hi, >>> we use mock for local package build, bu

Re: how to speed up mock?

2010-01-18 Thread Seth Vidal
On Mon, 18 Jan 2010, Farkas Levente wrote: > the real bottleneck is not the rpmbuild itself (with ccache it cab be > very fast), but the mock surroundings. suppose there is build which > takes about 2 minutes and in mock it takes about 5 minutes:-( > most of the time is in yum, python tar, gzip

Re: how to speed up mock?

2010-01-18 Thread Farkas Levente
On 01/18/2010 03:49 PM, Stephen Gallagher wrote: > -BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- > Hash: SHA1 > > On 01/18/2010 09:38 AM, Farkas Levente wrote: >> hi, >> we use mock for local package build, but it's very slow. now we install >> a new host just for mock with 8core, ram disks etc. it seems it s

Re: how to speed up mock?

2010-01-18 Thread Stephen Gallagher
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 On 01/18/2010 09:38 AM, Farkas Levente wrote: > hi, > we use mock for local package build, but it's very slow. now we install > a new host just for mock with 8core, ram disks etc. it seems it still > slow. first of all most of the time mock use only

how to speed up mock?

2010-01-18 Thread Farkas Levente
hi, we use mock for local package build, but it's very slow. now we install a new host just for mock with 8core, ram disks etc. it seems it still slow. first of all most of the time mock use only one 1 core of the cpu. is there any way to speed up different part of the mock build process? thanks

Re: ABRT frustrating for users and developers

2010-01-18 Thread David Tardon
On Mon, Jan 18, 2010 at 02:45:33PM +0100, Jiri Moskovcak wrote: > On 01/18/2010 02:18 PM, James Antill wrote: > >On Mon, 2010-01-18 at 11:19 +0100, Jiri Moskovcak wrote: > >>>Currently ABRT can at least run `rpm -qf MAIN_EXECUTABLE > >>>ALL_GDB_INFO_SHARED_DISPLAYED LIBRARIES FILENAMES' and report

Re: Heads-Up: Beware of xmlCleanupParser() when your package links against libxml2

2010-01-18 Thread Daniel Veillard
On Wed, Jan 13, 2010 at 03:57:46PM -0600, Michael Cronenworth wrote: > Daniel Veillard wrote: > > The problem is that you can perfectly have application not relying on > > libxml2 outside of their own code use libxml2 at different phases, > > for example when parsing input, and when generating resu

Re: ABRT frustrating for users and developers

2010-01-18 Thread Jiri Moskovcak
On 01/18/2010 02:18 PM, James Antill wrote: On Mon, 2010-01-18 at 11:19 +0100, Jiri Moskovcak wrote: Currently ABRT can at least run `rpm -qf MAIN_EXECUTABLE ALL_GDB_INFO_SHARED_DISPLAYED LIBRARIES FILENAMES' and report these nvrs in the Bugzilla bugreport before such build-id -> nvr server is

Re: Heads-Up: Beware of xmlCleanupParser() when your package links against libxml2

2010-01-18 Thread Daniel Veillard
On Wed, Jan 13, 2010 at 04:54:34PM -0500, Simo Sorce wrote: > On Wed, 13 Jan 2010 22:39:43 +0100 > > The dilemma is in broken libraries that use global variables instead of > explicitly initialized memory contexts so that you can have multiple > completely independent instances and also happen to

Re: Heads-Up: Beware of xmlCleanupParser() when your package links against libxml2

2010-01-18 Thread Daniel Veillard
On Wed, Jan 13, 2010 at 04:07:24PM -0500, Tom Lane wrote: > Lennart Poettering writes: > > There's something else that came to my mind: if libxml2 is loaded into > > memory indirectly because some dlopen'ed module wanted it, and then > > used, and then unloaded again because the module got dlcose'

Re: ABRT frustrating for users and developers

2010-01-18 Thread James Antill
On Mon, 2010-01-18 at 11:19 +0100, Jiri Moskovcak wrote: > > Currently ABRT can at least run `rpm -qf MAIN_EXECUTABLE > > ALL_GDB_INFO_SHARED_DISPLAYED LIBRARIES FILENAMES' and report these nvrs in > > the Bugzilla bugreport before such build-id -> nvr server is deployed. This should use the yum

Re: ABRT frustrating for users and developers

2010-01-18 Thread Thomas Moschny
2010/1/18 Jiri Moskovcak : > On 01/18/2010 01:28 PM, Thomas Moschny wrote: >> 2010/1/18 Jiri Moskovcak: >>> ABRT used to do this (and still can, it's just disabled), but rpm -V uses >>> prelink to un-prelink the binaries to check the MD5 sum and security guys >>> don't like it. >> >> Can you explai

Re: ABRT frustrating for users and developers

2010-01-18 Thread Jiri Moskovcak
On 01/18/2010 01:28 PM, Thomas Moschny wrote: 2010/1/18 Jiri Moskovcak: Plus abrt should run `rpm -V' on any rpm involved in the transaction (=if user does not have replaced the binary by some non-rpm "make install"). ABRT used to do this (and still can, it's just disabled), but rpm -V uses pr

Re: ABRT frustrating for users and developers

2010-01-18 Thread Thomas Moschny
2010/1/18 Jiri Moskovcak : >> Plus abrt should run `rpm -V' on any rpm involved in the transaction (=if >> user >> does not have replaced the binary by some non-rpm "make install"). > > ABRT used to do this (and still can, it's just disabled), but rpm -V uses > prelink to un-prelink the binaries to

Re: how to handle a gui- and non-gui-version of the same library/soname

2010-01-18 Thread Stephen Gallagher
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 On 01/17/2010 09:04 AM, Milos Jakubicek wrote: > Hi all, > > is there any good way how to handle the situation described at > > https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=528524 > > ? > > I.e. you have a single library (single soname) which can be

Re: ABRT frustrating for users and developers

2010-01-18 Thread David Tardon
On Mon, Jan 18, 2010 at 11:11:25AM +0100, Radek Vokal wrote: > On Mon, Jan 18, 2010 at 10:13 AM, Caolán McNamara wrote: > > On Sat, 2010-01-16 at 16:01 +0100, Christoph Wickert wrote: > >> I know that APRT is still very young technology, but after 2 months it's > >> time for a interim conclusion.

Re: ABRT frustrating for users and developers

2010-01-18 Thread Jiri Moskovcak
On 01/18/2010 11:38 AM, Jan Kratochvil wrote: On Mon, 18 Jan 2010 11:19:29 +0100, Jiri Moskovcak wrote: On 01/18/2010 11:17 AM, Jan Kratochvil wrote: Currently ABRT can at least run `rpm -qf MAIN_EXECUTABLE ALL_GDB_INFO_SHARED_DISPLAYED LIBRARIES FILENAMES' and report these nvrs in the Bugzilla

Re: ABRT frustrating for users and developers

2010-01-18 Thread Nikola Pajkovsky
Dne 16.1.2010 22:25, Ola Thoresen napsal(a): > Have a look at this bug for instance: > > https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_activity.cgi?id=531343 > It was closed two months ago as "WORKSFORME", still ABRT adds more and > more users to the Cc-list. > > Obviously something is not working for someone,

Re: ABRT frustrating for users and developers

2010-01-18 Thread Jan Kratochvil
On Mon, 18 Jan 2010 11:19:29 +0100, Jiri Moskovcak wrote: > On 01/18/2010 11:17 AM, Jan Kratochvil wrote: > > Currently ABRT can at least run `rpm -qf MAIN_EXECUTABLE > > ALL_GDB_INFO_SHARED_DISPLAYED LIBRARIES FILENAMES' and report these nvrs in > > the Bugzilla bugreport before such build-id ->

Re: OT: writing gobject-based plugins

2010-01-18 Thread Bastien Nocera
On Sat, 2010-01-16 at 15:03 +, Daniel P. Berrange wrote: > On Sat, Jan 16, 2010 at 03:22:32PM +0100, Christoph H?ger wrote: > > Hi, > > > > I am currently playing with gobject to learn some of this boilerplate > > stuff. For my small application I'd like to be able to write plugins > > that ar

Re: ABRT frustrating for users and developers

2010-01-18 Thread Jiri Moskovcak
On 01/18/2010 11:17 AM, Jan Kratochvil wrote: On Mon, 18 Jan 2010 09:18:11 +0100, Jiri Moskovcak wrote: On 01/17/2010 05:57 PM, Christoph Wickert wrote: 5. Instead of hashes the missing debuginfo packages should be listed with n-v-r, so people can install them manually. This co

Re: ABRT frustrating for users and developers

2010-01-18 Thread Jan Kratochvil
On Mon, 18 Jan 2010 09:18:11 +0100, Jiri Moskovcak wrote: > On 01/17/2010 05:57 PM, Christoph Wickert wrote: > > 5. Instead of hashes the missing debuginfo packages should be > > listed with n-v-r, so people can install them manually. > > This could be a problem. ABRT determines the re

Re: ABRT frustrating for users and developers

2010-01-18 Thread Radek Vokal
On Mon, Jan 18, 2010 at 10:13 AM, Caolán McNamara wrote: > On Sat, 2010-01-16 at 16:01 +0100, Christoph Wickert wrote: >> I know that APRT is still very young technology, but after 2 months it's >> time for a interim conclusion. For me the conclusions are: > > Abrt's getting a bit of a knocking in

Re: ABRT frustrating for users and developers

2010-01-18 Thread Jan Kratochvil
On Mon, 18 Jan 2010 09:06:13 +0100, Jiri Moskovcak wrote: > On 01/17/2010 06:49 PM, Camilo Mesias wrote: > > This is a good point, the users shouldn't really have to install > > debuginfo for a one-off use. It would be better for a central server > > or service to have access to all the debuginfo f

Re: ABRT frustrating for users and developers

2010-01-18 Thread Caolán McNamara
On Sat, 2010-01-16 at 16:01 +0100, Christoph Wickert wrote: > I know that APRT is still very young technology, but after 2 months it's > time for a interim conclusion. For me the conclusions are: Abrt's getting a bit of a knocking in this thread, but I'm fairly happy with it myself, it's doing its

Re: ABRT frustrating for users and developers

2010-01-18 Thread Jiri Moskovcak
On 01/18/2010 09:34 AM, Alexander Larsson wrote: On Mon, 2010-01-18 at 09:31 +0100, Alexander Larsson wrote: On Sun, 2010-01-17 at 13:02 +, Camilo Mesias wrote: Having said that the things that can be done with a mere backtrace are limited. I would almost always need to look at the coref

Re: ABRT frustrating for users and developers

2010-01-18 Thread Alexander Larsson
On Mon, 2010-01-18 at 09:31 +0100, Alexander Larsson wrote: > On Sun, 2010-01-17 at 13:02 +, Camilo Mesias wrote: > > > Having said that the things that can be done with a mere backtrace > are > > limited. I would almost always need to look at the corefile too, and > > would be frustrated if i

Re: ABRT frustrating for users and developers

2010-01-18 Thread Alexander Larsson
On Sun, 2010-01-17 at 13:02 +, Camilo Mesias wrote: > Having said that the things that can be done with a mere backtrace are > limited. I would almost always need to look at the corefile too, and > would be frustrated if it wasn't available. Perhaps the workflow that > starts with ABRT providi

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