On 07/07/15 21:30, Georg Fritzsche wrote:
> Can we fix the UX?
> Presumably we will never have zero shutdown hangs and there may be
> different/better ways to prompt the user about it.
We have had a discussion at Whistler about fixing the UX of crashes (bug
1177121, iirc).
To sum up: we can entir
Can we fix the UX?
Presumably we will never have zero shutdown hangs and there may be
different/better ways to prompt the user about it.
On Mon, Jul 6, 2015 at 10:48 PM, Vladan D wrote:
> KaiRo pointed out another reason to reduce shutdown hang rates on IRC:
> it's lousy UX. The crash-reporter d
On Monday, July 6, 2015 at 3:52:39 PM UTC-5, Kyle Huey wrote:
> On Mon, Jul 6, 2015 at 1:37 PM, Ryan VanderMeulen wrote:
>
> > On 7/6/2015 4:34 PM, Vladan D wrote:
> >
> >> Background: Firefox shutdown hangs are turned into shutdown crashes by a
> >> watchdog thread [1] that forces a crash if shu
On Mon, Jul 6, 2015 at 3:05 PM, Karl Tomlinson wrote:
> Vladan D. writes:
>
> > Should fixing shutdown hangs be higher priority?
>
> _exit() after profile-before-change notification would be the
> many-holes-with-one-plug bug to prioritize.
>
> https://wiki.mozilla.org/XPCOM_Shutdown
> https://bu
Vladan D. writes:
> Should fixing shutdown hangs be higher priority?
_exit() after profile-before-change notification would be the
many-holes-with-one-plug bug to prioritize.
https://wiki.mozilla.org/XPCOM_Shutdown
https://bugzilla.mozilla.org/show_bug.cgi?id=662444
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Ah, right.
On 06/07/15 23:05, Vladan D wrote:
> I think you misunderstood, I wasn't talking about the reducing the watchdog
> timeout :)
> I was saying that shutdown hangs result in bad Crash Reporter UX, so that is
> one more reason to *fix* shutdown hangs, i.e. reduce the shutdown hang rate
>
On Monday, July 6, 2015 at 5:00:36 PM UTC-4, David Rajchenbach-Teller wrote:
> On 06/07/15 22:48, Vladan D wrote:
> > KaiRo pointed out another reason to reduce shutdown hang rates on IRC: it's
> > lousy UX. The crash-reporter dialog pops up a minute after the user closed
> > Firefox
>
>
> That
> Should fixing shutdown hangs be higher priority?
> And if so, should we allow features with shutdown hangs to be released?
I admit to skimming over shutdown-hang signatures when looking at
topcrash lists. In my experience they're often longstanding issues that
are difficult to diagnose and rare
On 06/07/15 22:48, Vladan D wrote:
> KaiRo pointed out another reason to reduce shutdown hang rates on IRC: it's
> lousy UX. The crash-reporter dialog pops up a minute after the user closed
> Firefox
That's bug 1137941, but how would that reduce shutdown hangs?
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David Rajchenbach-Teller, P
On Mon, Jul 6, 2015 at 1:37 PM, Ryan VanderMeulen wrote:
> On 7/6/2015 4:34 PM, Vladan D wrote:
>
>> Background: Firefox shutdown hangs are turned into shutdown crashes by a
>> watchdog thread [1] that forces a crash if shutdown hasn't completed within
>> 1 minute. Thanks to the watchdog and the
KaiRo pointed out another reason to reduce shutdown hang rates on IRC: it's
lousy UX. The crash-reporter dialog pops up a minute after the user closed
Firefox
On Monday, July 6, 2015 at 4:37:41 PM UTC-4, RyanVM wrote:
> On 7/6/2015 4:34 PM, Vladan D wrote:
> > Background: Firefox shutdown hangs
>> Should fixing shutdown hangs be higher priority?
Starting and shutting down properly (and quickly), IMO, fall into the
"core quality" / "no compromise" / "we have to get this right" bucket.
So making it higher priority sounds aligned with the Three Pillars.
>> And if so, should we allow featu
On 7/6/2015 4:34 PM, Vladan D wrote:
Background: Firefox shutdown hangs are turned into shutdown crashes by a
watchdog thread [1] that forces a crash if shutdown hasn't completed within 1
minute. Thanks to the watchdog and the Windows profile unlocker [2], shutdown
hangs aren't as frustrating
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