Re: Mac Flash crash: need to find a Mac with Intel GMA 950/X3100

2012-12-06 Thread Robert O'Callahan
On Fri, Dec 7, 2012 at 1:45 PM, Robert O'Callahan wrote: > Bug 804606 is a pretty bad Flash crash that we're chasing for beta. > > If you have an old-ish Mac (5 years old?) and about:support shows "Intel > GMA X3100" or "Intel GMA 950" under "WebGL Renderer" then please try > loading Yahoo mail wi

Re: Integrating ICU into Mozilla build

2012-12-06 Thread Robert O'Callahan
On Fri, Dec 7, 2012 at 4:25 PM, Robert O'Callahan wrote: > On Fri, Dec 7, 2012 at 4:08 PM, Norbert Lindenberg < > mozillali...@lindenbergsoftware.com> wrote: > >> This sounds like non-trivial surgery on ICU. Yes, the APIs are >> synchronous. And we don't know whether the time when a user stumbles

Re: Integrating ICU into Mozilla build

2012-12-06 Thread Robert O'Callahan
On Fri, Dec 7, 2012 at 4:08 PM, Norbert Lindenberg < mozillali...@lindenbergsoftware.com> wrote: > This sounds like non-trivial surgery on ICU. Yes, the APIs are > synchronous. And we don't know whether the time when a user stumbles onto a > Chinese web page that requests Chinese collation is real

Re: Integrating ICU into Mozilla build

2012-12-06 Thread Chris Peterson
On 12/6/12 6:36 PM, Robert O'Callahan wrote: How hard would it be to incrementally download data for the locales we need? It seems that most users won't ever need the collation tables for Chinese, for example. If we could figure out a way to make them available just-in-time, that could be a win.

Re: Integrating ICU into Mozilla build

2012-12-06 Thread Norbert Lindenberg
On Dec 6, 2012, at 18:36 , Robert O'Callahan wrote: > How hard would it be to incrementally download data for the locales we need? > > It seems that most users won't ever need the collation tables for Chinese, > for example. If we could figure out a way to make them available > just-in-time, that

Re: Integrating ICU into Mozilla build

2012-12-06 Thread Robert O'Callahan
How hard would it be to incrementally download data for the locales we need? It seems that most users won't ever need the collation tables for Chinese, for example. If we could figure out a way to make them available just-in-time, that could be a win. I assume the relevant APIs are synchronous, s

Re: Integrating ICU into Mozilla build

2012-12-06 Thread Norbert Lindenberg
On Dec 6, 2012, at 16:33 , Axel Hecht wrote: > On 07.12.12 01:08, Asa Dotzler wrote: >> On 12/3/2012 2:39 PM, Norbert Lindenberg wrote: >>> Well, the first question is what size increase would be acceptable >>> given the benefits that ICU provides. >> >> I don't understand what benefits this actu

Re: Integrating ICU into Mozilla build

2012-12-06 Thread Norbert Lindenberg
On Dec 6, 2012, at 16:08 , Asa Dotzler wrote: > On 12/3/2012 2:39 PM, Norbert Lindenberg wrote: >> Well, the first question is what size increase would be acceptable >> given the benefits that ICU provides. > > I don't understand what benefits this actually provides. How are users' > online live

Mac Flash crash: need to find a Mac with Intel GMA 950/X3100

2012-12-06 Thread Robert O'Callahan
Bug 804606 is a pretty bad Flash crash that we're chasing for beta. If you have an old-ish Mac (5 years old?) and about:support shows "Intel GMA X3100" or "Intel GMA 950" under "WebGL Renderer" then please try loading Yahoo mail with Flash enabled and Flash hardware acceleration enabled. (You may

Re: Integrating ICU into Mozilla build

2012-12-06 Thread Axel Hecht
On 07.12.12 01:08, Asa Dotzler wrote: On 12/3/2012 2:39 PM, Norbert Lindenberg wrote: Well, the first question is what size increase would be acceptable given the benefits that ICU provides. I don't understand what benefits this actually provides. How are users' online lives improved by this c

Re: Integrating ICU into Mozilla build

2012-12-06 Thread Asa Dotzler
On 12/3/2012 2:39 PM, Norbert Lindenberg wrote: Well, the first question is what size increase would be acceptable given the benefits that ICU provides. I don't understand what benefits this actually provides. How are users' online lives improved by this change, either today or in the future?

Re: Testing single platforms on Try? Use Linux64 instead of Linux32 for fastest turnaround

2012-12-06 Thread Ben Hearsum
On 12/06/12 04:16 PM, Anthony Jones wrote: > On 07/12/12 08:22, Chris Peterson wrote: >> On 12/6/12 9:34 AM, Ed Morley wrote: >>> As such, if testing just one platform on Try, use Linux64 instead for >>> reduced overall turnaround times. (Use '-p linux64' in your trychooser >>> [2] line). >> >> Sou

Re: Testing single platforms on Try? Use Linux64 instead of Linux32 for fastest turnaround

2012-12-06 Thread Anthony Jones
On 07/12/12 08:22, Chris Peterson wrote: > On 12/6/12 9:34 AM, Ed Morley wrote: >> As such, if testing just one platform on Try, use Linux64 instead for >> reduced overall turnaround times. (Use '-p linux64' in your trychooser >> [2] line). > > Sounds like Try could implement a naive '-p fastest/w

Re: Testing single platforms on Try? Use Linux64 instead of Linux32 for fastest turnaround

2012-12-06 Thread Chris Peterson
On 12/6/12 9:34 AM, Ed Morley wrote: As such, if testing just one platform on Try, use Linux64 instead for reduced overall turnaround times. (Use '-p linux64' in your trychooser [2] line). Sounds like Try could implement a naive '-p fastest/whatever' that simply maps to '-p linux64'. A smarte

Re: Testing single platforms on Try? Use Linux64 instead of Linux32 for fastest turnaround

2012-12-06 Thread Steve Fink
On a related note, I've neglected to document or promote a new try syntax feature: you can filter test builders with square bracket syntax. You could infer details from bug 802937, but in practice probably the only useful strings are variants of: Windows XP only - try: -b do -p win32 -u all[5.

Re: Testing single platforms on Try? Use Linux64 instead of Linux32 for fastest turnaround

2012-12-06 Thread Ed Morley
On Thursday, 6 December 2012 18:18:53 UTC, Andrew McCreight wrote: > Is there any possibility of getting a '-p whatever' that would > semi-intelligently pick a desktop platform that isn't overwhelmed with > build/test jobs? For the kinds of bugs I work on, I don't really care which > one it ru

Re: Testing single platforms on Try? Use Linux64 instead of Linux32 for fastest turnaround

2012-12-06 Thread Andrew McCreight
Is there any possibility of getting a '-p whatever' that would semi-intelligently pick a desktop platform that isn't overwhelmed with build/test jobs? For the kinds of bugs I work on, I don't really care which one it runs on. I sometimes approximate this myself by seeing in the most recent push

Re: Testing single platforms on Try? Use Linux64 instead of Linux32 for fastest turnaround

2012-12-06 Thread Ed Morley
On Thursday, 6 December 2012 18:08:23 UTC, Ehsan Akhgari wrote: > Doesn't this trend just get reversed if everyone starts to use Linux64 now? > > Ehsan No, the B2G emulator tests will still be using the Linux32 slaves & are the primary cause of the problem at the moment. At such point if/when w

Re: Testing single platforms on Try? Use Linux64 instead of Linux32 for fastest turnaround

2012-12-06 Thread Ehsan Akhgari
Doesn't this trend just get reversed if everyone starts to use Linux64 now? Ehsan On 2012-12-06 12:34 PM, Ed Morley wrote: Whilst Linux32 is on average our fastest building platform (by ~5-10 mins over Linux64), it currently has much longer test wait times [1] (time until a testpool machine i

Testing single platforms on Try? Use Linux64 instead of Linux32 for fastest turnaround

2012-12-06 Thread Ed Morley
Whilst Linux32 is on average our fastest building platform (by ~5-10 mins over Linux64), it currently has much longer test wait times [1] (time until a testpool machine is available to take the job). For example there are currently over 1000 queued Linux32 test jobs on Try, but only 26 for Lin

Re: Synchronous loading of data: URLs

2012-12-06 Thread Neil
Jonathan Kew wrote: You shouldn't normally see a flash of fallback text unless the font is particularly slow to load; the text should be invisible until the font is available. We aim to hide the text until the font is ready, unless it takes more than a few seconds to load. (The timeout is conf