Re: mach has landed

2012-10-02 Thread Nicholas Nethercote
On Tue, Oct 2, 2012 at 7:12 PM, Jeff Gilbert wrote: > As an additional data point, my experience is that the interactivity of my > machine is not noticeably impacted when I overcommit with -j12 on my > 4core/8thread i7 windows machine. Right, I think we've discussed this issue enough. Everyone

Re: mach has landed

2012-10-02 Thread Jeff Gilbert
As an additional data point, my experience is that the interactivity of my machine is not noticeably impacted when I overcommit with -j12 on my 4core/8thread i7 windows machine. Task manager shows the cores often pegged at 100%, but the machine basically behaves normally. Neither is my Ubuntu 8

Re: Snappy Meeting, Thurs. Oct 4, 11am PT

2012-10-02 Thread Lawrence Mandel
Correction. PB&J is booked this week. Those in MV should find another room. We'll use the ProgramManagement vidyo room. - Original Message - > With people off helping B2G let's spend some time this week taking a > good look at the open projects and the progress that we expect to > make in

Snappy Meeting, Thurs. Oct 4, 11am PT

2012-10-02 Thread Lawrence Mandel
With people off helping B2G let's spend some time this week taking a good look at the open projects and the progress that we expect to make in Q4. Please add your items and status to the agenda before the call. https://etherpad.mozilla.org/snappy Dial-in: conference# 95346 US/International: +1 6

Re: try: -p all considered harmful?

2012-10-02 Thread Ehsan Akhgari
On 2012-10-02 6:00 PM, Karl Tomlinson wrote: Ben Hearsum writes: On 09/29/12 12:58 AM, Kannan Vijayan wrote: 1. A patch that is expected to succeed, but you want to run it through try to verify. For "optimistic" pushes, we expect that the patch goes from green => green. For "pessimistic" p

Re: Proposal to remove support for the -t all trychooser syntax

2012-10-02 Thread Ehsan Akhgari
On 2012-10-02 6:17 PM, Bobby Holley wrote: The general problem as I see it is that talos try doesn't go orange if there's a regression (because we detect regressions over time), and checking the results against a baseline revision is kind of a pain, even with talos-compare. So I think most develo

Re: Proposal to remove support for the -t all trychooser syntax

2012-10-02 Thread Bobby Holley
The general problem as I see it is that talos try doesn't go orange if there's a regression (because we detect regressions over time), and checking the results against a baseline revision is kind of a pain, even with talos-compare. So I think most developers ignore it, and those who have the gumpti

Re: Proposal to remove support for the -t all trychooser syntax

2012-10-02 Thread Karl Tomlinson
Ehsan Akhgari writes: > Over in bug 796087, I'm proposing for us to remove the -t all try server > flag. The rationale is that the set of Talos tests vary greatly and most > of the people who test performance are only interested in a subset of Talos > tests. Frequently enough people change code

Re: mach has landed

2012-10-02 Thread Karl Tomlinson
On Fri, 28 Sep 2012 11:44:56 -0700, Gary Kwong wrote: >> http://blog.johnford.org/new-mac-builders-ssds-j-settings/ > > Quoted from that blog: > > "I did find that it is better to set the -j setting too high than > it is to set it too low." > > -Gary Better in terms of build time, which is the ri

Re: try: -p all considered harmful?

2012-10-02 Thread Karl Tomlinson
Ben Hearsum writes: > On 09/29/12 12:58 AM, Kannan Vijayan wrote: >> 1. A patch that is expected to succeed, but you want to run it through >> try to verify. > >> For "optimistic" pushes, we expect that the patch goes from green => >> green. For "pessimistic" pushes we expect a listing of all ora

Re: Proposal to remove support for the -t all trychooser syntax

2012-10-02 Thread Steve Fink
On 10/01/2012 04:40 PM, Jeff Hammel wrote: On 10/01/2012 04:32 PM, Ehsan Akhgari wrote: Over in bug 796087, I'm proposing for us to remove the -t all try server flag. The rationale is that the set of Talos tests vary greatly and most of the people who test performance are only interested in a

Re: try: -p all considered harmful?

2012-10-02 Thread Justin Lebar
> Boxes which run performance tests are separate from boxes which run > unit tests, right? If so, I'd be interested to know what the > breakdown is ignoring Talos, since that's not usually on the critical > path for m-i or try, and since that would presumably skew the load > measured above towards

Re: try: -p all considered harmful?

2012-10-02 Thread Justin Lebar
> That's just the load in terms of # of pushes. Load in terms of % time spent > on the various branches is pretty different. For the past 30 days, here's > the breakdown of time of builds and tests spent on the top 4 branches: > 39.93% mozilla-inbound > 31.00% try > 6.91% mozilla-central > 6.22% mo

Re: try: -p all considered harmful?

2012-10-02 Thread Chris AtLee
On 01/10/12 10:51 PM, Justin Lebar wrote: For case 1., an idea that has been floated here and again (in Automation and Tools and Release Engineering, anyway) is landing directly from try -> inbound (or central) for green try pushes. However, this isn't a small endeavor, both for the reasons of bu

Re: Proposal to remove support for the -t all trychooser syntax

2012-10-02 Thread Bobby Holley
I think this is a great idea. On Tue, Oct 2, 2012 at 1:32 AM, Ehsan Akhgari wrote: > Over in bug 796087, I'm proposing for us to remove the -t all try server > flag. The rationale is that the set of Talos tests vary greatly and most > of the people who test performance are only interested in a s