Hi Markus,
I can summarize from my perspective. I good point was made that creating a
directory is to be avoided. I think it comes down to the command-line way of
launching surf, the alternative to launching surf from a launcher based out of
the home folder.
Say you call up surf just to dow
I forgot to bump the size of cmd[] for this one.
Ben
Original Message
From: Ben Woolley
Sent: Wednesday, January 7, 2015 6:32 PM
To: dev mail list
Subject: surf trivial bugs patch
Just a couple minor things I found while working on other things. The
geolocation state was being lost on new w
I also forgot to bump the size of cmd[] for this one, too.
Ben
Original Message
From: Ben Woolley
Sent: Wednesday, January 7, 2015 3:18 PM
To: dev mail list
Subject: disk cache patch
Hi all,
It turns out that enabling libsoup's disk cache is fairly straightforward.
I left it enabled by de
In my personal configuration, I include in the prompt that control-c will
cancel the download, a natural side-effect/feature of the implementation.
Ben
Original Message
From: Dmitrij D. Czarkoff
Sent: Thursday, January 8, 2015 6:17 PM
To: dev mail list
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Subject: Re: [de
The saving to desktop vs. working directory has arguments on both sides, but
that is easy enough to change in config, and leave the default to maintainer
preference. A prompt would make either case known before the download, so
leaving a prompt in by default helps make the distinction less of an
Ben
Original Message
From: Christoph Lohmann
Sent: Friday, January 23, 2015 11:57 PM
To: dev mail list
Reply To: dev mail list
Subject: Re: [dev] surf vertical and horizontal same-origin policy patch
(updated, with profiling mitigation)
Greetings.
On Sat, 24 Jan 2015 08:49:50 +0100 Ben Woo
Thanks for the reply, Christoph,
= profiling =
I view panopticlick as a theoretical demonstration of how many bits of entropy
can leak, not a robust implementation that can properly test defenses against
sophisticated profiling.
The panopticlick site cannot measure the noise-based approach. O
Hi Markus,
My patch adds a decidenavigation() callback, which is exactly where that
interface would need to be called. I can add it to my branch with minimal
effort, and even make a separate patch, but handling the dependency would need
to be done in a way that conforms to the suckless philosop
Hi Markus,
I can certainly provide the code to consume that interface in a standalone
patch with stubs. I am already in there, so I can commit to that.
I have been looking at the filter format. The filter format is actually fairly
complex. It supports regular expressions, and has features that
Hi,
In my patch, I needed to have an XSync after XChangeProperty in setatom, not
just before it. It seemed to fix a race condition. I am not sure I actually
fixed it completely, because I don't know how that stuff works yet, but it
helped in my case.
I haven't been able to reproduce the bug,
I believe their latest code has float support, but it isn't released yet. Their
CSS support is starting to mature. I use it under tabbed, like surf.
I have been following it for years, and they have their own kind of suckless
approach, but oriented toward enabling developing countries to acces
Is your corporate proxy stripping the headers that allow cross-origin requests?
Maybe test from a different network just to be sure.
Ben
Original Message
From: Jeroen Op 't Eynde
Sent: Thursday, March 5, 2015 12:23 PM
To: dev@suckless.org
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Subject: [dev] [surf] Webapps
Which command line options are you using? This is so that people can try with
your settings, and find settings that might work, and be able to tell you which
would require changing.
Ben
Original Message
From: Jeroen Op 't Eynde
Sent: Friday, March 6, 2015 10:26 AM
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Reply To
Thanks for the reply, Nick.
Re: patch 5, have you seen that behavior before? I saw something from an Ajax
request from some advertising code, and made that change after debugging.
Re: patch 7, I want to do the user agent similar to how I do accept language,
adding meaningless semantics that a
Thank you for the reply, Markus.
That is a very good point. The reason why I wanted to try this approach is
because, even with being in a very large anonymous set in HTTP headers, the IP
address network or region may be used split large sets down to individuals. I
saw it in a paper, but I don'
My view is that the progression of the web has been actively manipulated, but
technical solutions exist. There is power in creation. It isn't just hype, but
money, and its creations.
I have a vision for the web, but it seems you do, too. What is your vision?
Ben
Original Message
From: Dmi
Hi Nick,
What is the build error? I submitted the disk cache support, and can fix it. I
am looking to see if I have an environment to reproduce.
Thanks,
Ben
Original Message
From: Nick
Sent: Monday, April 13, 2015 3:06 PM
To: dev@suckless.org
Reply To: dev mail list
Subject: [dev] [surf]
Thank you, Nick.
It looks like you can use SOUP_CHECK_VERSION(2, 34, 0) to test for the version
that supports disk cache. May you please try your patch with that code, and
send me an updated patch? I will then test on my own system with support, and
verify that the positive case also works.
On those platforms that need that define set before the include, does the -D
argument actually work?
Ben
Original Message
From: Nick
Sent: Tuesday, April 14, 2015 2:21 AM
To: dev mail list
Reply To: dev mail list
Subject: Re: [dev] [surf] [PATCH] Add NODISKCACHE option to disable the disk
ca
Cool. My concern is about adding "unstable" code on a "stable" distribution.
The disk cache is disabled by default, so it is probably not an issue. If
someone enables it, it is their decision.
I am not the maintainer, so it isn't my call, but if the maintainer wants my
input as the original su
You are right, Nick. My patch had left it enabled. It looks like nearly
everything is enabled by default.
Tomorrow, or whenever I can get to it, I will submit a new patch derived from
yours that uses the version testing macro, and submit the unstable hack as a
patch to the website, unless the
Hi Ivan,
How are you determining the memory use of multiple processes? Is it accounting
for shared mappings? For example, I have a database application that has
mappings shared across processes for each core. When I look at top(1), my
memory usage would appear to be 200% when 4 processes are re
Hi Ivan,
You can isolate data by just adding another key to all queries, but that has to
be effectively done for all data access, which is the hard part. For example,
there is a window.name DOM property that is used as a window cookie. That
access would need to be keyed by origin to properly fo
See my previous mailing list messages for details. I keep my local repo here:
https://github.com/legitparty/surf-isolated
Ben
Original Message
From: Eric Pruitt
Sent: Wednesday, June 3, 2015 11:53 AM
To: dev mail list
Reply To: dev mail list
Subject: Re: [dev] [surf] Using more memory than fi
Surf-isolated is just my personal branch. It is not official in any way. I am
not a surf developer myself, other than having a few trivial commits make it
into the official surf. I have no commit access, and I am not the maintainer.
However, I answered your question because I am familiar with th
My impression is the following, if it matters:
1. dev@ is like a users@ list, since all users should be devs
2. hackers@ is like a submit@ or patches@ list
Does that sound right, or is the analogy muddying things up even more?
Ben
Original Message
From: Christoph Lohmann
Sent: Wednesday,
"Reader mode" in major browsers already is powered by a subset of html5 for
marking up articles. That is already widely deployed, and supports the article
meta attributes the same way as AMP does. I often use it on my phone to bypass
those CSS popup ads that appear in front of articles.
I have
I suggest that "be a chance to be popular" be changed to "satisfy more use
cases".
You wouldn't want to offend anyone's anti-populist sensibilities. ;)
Ben
Original Message
From: Pickfire
Sent: Thursday, November 19, 2015 8:36 AM
To: dev@suckless.org
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Subject: Re: [dev
I actually like the idea. I was just talking to
Ben
Original Message
From: Martti Kühne
Sent: Sunday, November 22, 2015 4:00 PM
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Subject: Re: [dev] Announcement: Backporting the fun into C
Currently this work is about exploring the possibilities, the
l
I accidentally hit send early. Anyway, I was talking to a developer friend who
didn't know C, but knew php, and was explaining how he can work with much of
the code he was a bit intimidated by because the memory handling and the fancy
pointer stuff is outside the main business logic, so it isn't
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