FRIGN wrote:
> You can write beautiful and readable code in any language.
[assuming that "you" means the reader in general, not S. Jegen in particular]
False. I can't write such code in MATLAB, for example.
> A question to everyone on this list: What do you think about the Go-language?
I'm not
On 04/03/2014, Bobby Powers wrote:
> Strake wrote:
>> * Member selection is in some cases cumbersome, in which it would not
>> be in C, which is related to ¬(variant types)
>
> Can you explain more what you mean?
I can't quite remember the particulars. My case was a λ-c
e GNU sed's -i switch, it ought to work with any program.
Cheers,
strake
On 13/04/2012, Troels Henriksen wrote:
> I wrote a similar program in C: http://sigkill.dk/projects/insitu/ It
> also does actual in-replace replacement (which is sometimes not what you
> want).
I actually found this prior, but wanted a program that would not harm
the file on failure.
> Note tha
#x27;s stdout we could compute the diff and then
> patch the original file once cmd exits 0. If someone could get that
> working it would be pretty sweet.
I'm not sure why — this method seems ultimately functionally equivalent to mine.
Perhaps I fail to ken your logic here.
Cheers,
strake
On 13/04/2012, Connor Lane Smith wrote:
> Your method, while simpler, requires 2n space to 'situ' a length n
> file. A suitable patch format would require only enough space to store
> the changes to the original file. The outcome would be identical, but
> if we're trying to sed only a few changes
On 13/04/2012, Connor Lane Smith wrote:
> On 13 April 2012 16:37, Strake wrote:
>> True, if we trim the start and finish lazily
>
> That depends on the diff format. diff -e, for example, could work well.
I meant to trim pre-diff, so it would be quadratic in a lesser argument.
&g
On 13/04/2012, Truls Becken wrote:
> There is also sponge from http://kitenet.net/~joey/code/moreutils/
which would also corrupt file on failure, by what little documentation
I can read through the markup.
din, but not if a program
> before it in the pipe returns non-zero.
>
> I guess I should test programs before suggesting them to others.
(^_^)
Actually, it's not wrong — it would do the job, i.e. to mutate file in
situ — it's just not quite sure enough.
Cheers,
strake
and irksome input
methods, while mighty graphics controllers sit idle. *WRATH*
I quite hope for ivo.
Cheers,
strake
On 19/04/2012, Ivan Kanakarakis wrote:
> because ii takes as an argument
> the password/-k,
> the password is exposed to anyone that can see what processes are running
> (top/htop).
>
> As no process can hide its arguments, how should one go around this ?
>
> - reading the passwd from a file (over
ght to add a new flag, as in attached patch.
Cheers,
strake
pwfile.patch
Description: Binary data
Oops, forgot case "-".
pwfile.patch
Description: Binary data
On 19/04/2012, Ivan Kanakarakis wrote:
> I tried the second one, I see the check for '-' in the code, but I get
>
> $ ii -n fooo -j -
> -: No such file or directory
>
> seems the check is faulty
>
> if (keyfile != NULL || stat(argv[i], &s) != 0) {
>
> does it work there ?
Ahhh. *facepal
mail, I use dovecot. Installation was easy, and it works
well and does TLS.
Mind, my site is small — 1 user.
Cheers,
strake
On 20/04/2012, pancake wrote:
> lot of suckless tools exist nowadays.. mostly prefixed by 's'.. like star,
> sdhcp.. i would love to ser them all grouped in a single repo, site or linux
> distro. as far as we have 9base and musl can fill the gaps to have a fully
> suckless distro.
>
> i think that
On 20/04/2012, pancake wrote:
> lot of suckless tools exist nowadays.. mostly prefixed by 's'.. like star,
> sdhcp.. i would love to ser them all grouped in a single repo, site or linux
> distro. as far as we have 9base and musl can fill the gaps to have a fully
> suckless distro.
Since we are on
Hello all.
I wrote a program to inflate/deflate data, that can read and write
zlib-format data and read gzip-format data. I thought that some here
might find it useful.
http://strake.zanity.net:1104/flzip.git
2.6 kLoC, public domain.
Needs plan9port.
Cheers,
strake
On 10/05/2012, Strake wrote:
> I wrote a program to inflate/deflate data, that can read and write
> zlib-format data and read gzip-format data.
Wow, I'm stupid. gzip is part of plan9port.
Damn, I hoped that this meant that sta.li is ready
; :(
With which linker? If GNU, which is likely on Linux, then it may be
broken as designed.
One method to build a full system is to build a toolchain unable to
dynamic link at all, and itself static-linked, and then with it build
the other wares. Crosstool-ng can build such a toolchain.
Cheers,
strake
out
not a dynamic executable
$ time ./a.out
./a.out 0.00s user 3.14s system 100% cpu 3.145 total
No worries, it seems.
Cheers,
strake
Another option would be Clutter: http://trac.webkit.org/wiki/clutter
On 22/06/2012, Strake wrote:
> Another option would be Clutter: http://trac.webkit.org/wiki/clutter
>
Never mind, it's just another GTK. Sorry.
Will now need libutf.
diff -r 8cf300476909 Makefile
--- a/Makefile Sat Jun 09 18:53:39 2012 +0100
+++ b/Makefile Tue Jul 31 23:06:28 2012 -0500
@@ -27,6 +27,7 @@
cksum.c\
cmp.c \
cp.c \
+ cut.c \
date.c \
dirname.c \
On 01/08/2012, Martin Kopta wrote:
>> Also, I'm really curious why people use cut when awk exists.
>
> $ du -b /usr/bin/cut /usr/bin/gawk /opt/plan9/bin/awk
> 38600 /usr/bin/cut
> 400212 /usr/bin/gawk
> 105700 /opt/plan9/bin/awk
>
> Speed and simplicity I guess?
>
> Why would I use awk of whic
I rewrote cut cleaner, but am not sure whether I ought to bother to
send it, if ye would rather keep sbase sans cut.
So, the new version, cut.c only, all else same:
diff -r 8cf300476909 cut.c
--- /dev/null Thu Jan 01 00:00:00 1970 +
+++ b/cut.c Wed Aug 01 09:41:11 2012 -0500
@@ -0,0 +1,188 @@
+#include
+#include
+#include
+#include
+#include "text.h"
+#include "util.h"
+
+typedef struct {
+ i
diff -r 8cf300476909 chroot.8
--- /dev/null Thu Jan 01 00:00:00 1970 +
+++ b/chroot.8 Wed Aug 01 04:46:43 2012 -0500
@@ -0,0 +1,25 @@
+.TH CHROOT 8
+.SH NAME
+chroot \- change root directory
+.SH SYNOPSIS
+.B chroot
+.I path
+[
+.I x
+[
+.I argument ...
+]
+]
+.SH OPERATION
+.B chroot
+chang
On 01/08/2012, pancake wrote:
> That is vulnerable on linux. Proper use is:
>
> chdir (path); chroot(".");
Ah, sorry.
--- /dev/null Thu Jan 01 00:00:00 1970 +
+++ b/chroot.8 Wed Aug 01 05:09:36 2012 -0500
@@ -0,0 +1,25 @@
+.TH CHROOT 8
+.SH NAME
+chroot \- change root directory
+.SH SYNOP
On 01/08/2012, Kurt H Maier wrote:
> In fact, I'm fairly
> certain I could implement cut in sed.
with shell script wrapper?
On 01/08/2012, Džen wrote:
> why argu?
>
> On Wed, Aug 1, 2012 at 5:11 PM, Strake wrote:
> [...]
>> +void main (int argc, char *argu[]) {
> [...]
Habit of mine.
On 03/08/2012, Connor Lane Smith wrote:
> % head -n -10
Not sbase head.
$ seq 0 7 | head -n -2
$
On 10/08/2012, hiro <23h...@gmail.com> wrote:
> well, this is an elitist list of mothafockas who don't give a shit
> about others. that's why communication theorists can go away.
>
Yep. We're so elite, we're not bound by any mere laws of physics.
Just watch us squeeze many GB of entropy into this
On 23/08/2012, Joaquim Pedro França Simão wrote:
> I wonder if there is any news about stali. I searched the mail list, but had
> no activity on this recently.
Most activity about stali seems to be such as this.
> I started to hate autotools further.
Yes, no wonder. GNU Autotools is a system t
On 27/08/2012, Kurt H Maier wrote:
> On Mon, Aug 27, 2012 at 10:30:32PM +, Bjartur Thorlacius wrote:
>> Why Loongson?
> He means MIPS.
Yes, sorry. OpenBSD calls it "loongson" rather than "mips" so I
thought that binaries must be built for Loongson specifically, which
now rather seems false.
On 19/09/2012, Roberto E. Vargas Caballero wrote:
> Maybe a good solution could be
> integrate tmux inside of st (for example if STTMUX is defined, run tmux in
> starup).
Yeah! Oh, we could have a variable for everything that one could wish
to start in st: STTMUX, STGNUSCREEN, STAALIBKDE...
or w
On 21/09/2012, hiro <23h...@gmail.com> wrote:
> if you want reliability don't use a computer.
>
if you want reliability don't use the world.
On 29/09/2012, Christoph Lohmann <2...@r-36.net> wrote:
> What would you think about some kind of hall of shame for websites that
> waste most resources?
"meh"
Not sure which would be better choice of flag: 'z' or '0', so I
arbitrarily chose 'z'.
commit 474a73ae118e6791fc56e616233dd9ccb5c8e92f
Author: strake
Date: Thu Oct 4 19:50:23 2012 -0500
grep: add z flag to use NULL separators
diff --git a/grep.c b/grep.c
On 14/10/2012, Kurt H Maier wrote:
> Sorry to have to let you guys know, uriel passed away peacefully a
> couple days ago. We'll miss him.
>
> Kurt
>
I am very sorry to hear this. I never knew him in person, but I shall
miss his keen commentary.
Strake
On 19/10/2012, Calvin Morrison wrote:
> I think the largest benefit is the cache. Loading up many
> http://google.com's would mean you'd have to reload all of the images
> and such, whereas with one process, you wouldn't have an opportunity
> of overlap cache.
So make a local HTTP caching proxy.
On 23/10/2012, Hugues Moretto-Viry wrote:
> What do you think about Wayland?
Guess: http://wayland.freedesktop.org/docs/html/chap-Protocol.html
ts to mksh
* Install media
Forever goals:
* Not lose
Cheers,
Strake
On 25/10/2012, Calvin Morrison wrote:
> You're sticking with initscripts I presume?
Yes.
On 25/10/2012, Calvin Morrison wrote:
> Excellent work.
>
> Carry on good lad
Thanks, I mean to (^_^)
On 25/10/2012, Strake wrote:
> Packages: http://strake.zanity.net:1104/starch/pkg/(core, extra)
> Build Scripts: http://strake.zanity.net:1104/starch/ports.git
Someone just told me that my server is unreachable. I thought I had it
working again, but clearly I was wrong. Sorry about this
On 25/10/2012, Strake wrote:
> Someone just told me that my server is unreachable. I thought I had it
> working again, but clearly I was wrong. Sorry about this; I'll try to
> unbreak it or find an alternative soon.
Sorry about this. Ought to be reachable now. Got new IP, forgot
On 28/10/2012, Luis Anaya wrote:
>>> On Sun, Oct 28, 2012 at 01:21:40PM +0100, hiro wrote:
>>> > typesetting? raw text can be typeset just fine with a keyboard. not
>>> > sure what you're really up to.
>>> >
>>>
>>> It is suckless answer to HTML email.
>>>
>> It might as well *be* HTML email.
>
>
On 05/11/2012, Brandon Invergo wrote:
> First, to see what I'm talking about:
> 1) Open a terminal and start some CPU monitor (ie top or htop)
> 2) Open another terminal and load a rather large man page (try
> termcap(5))
> 3) Start scrolling down on the man page and watch your Xorg process's
> CP
On 05/11/2012, Brandon Invergo wrote:
> The mission then is to put on some deep sea diving gear and wade into the
> murky depths of xterm code
s/deep sea diving/hazmat/
On 06/11/2012, Alex Hutton wrote:
> Which languages qualify as suckless?
Only Unicode-extended Lazy K.
λ is for wimps.
On 07/11/2012, Joerg Zinke wrote:
> Loglan is way to over-engineered and bloated.
> toki pona to the rescue!
"Training your mind to think in Toki Pona can lead to many deeper
insights about yourself or the world around you." [1]
Well, it can lead to many shallow insights about its creator.
[1]
On 07/11/2012, hiro <23h...@gmail.com> wrote:
>> Which languages qualify as suckless?
>
> C, body language.
Language
Jens Staal wrote:
> I agree with this. As an example distribution, Sabotage does things pretty
> well. One detail that I like a lot (but it sort of depends on your stance on
> symlinks) is the way applications usually are placed in it:
> Each application gets its own directory under /opt and then
On 18/11/2012, Bjartur Thorlacius wrote:
> GNU Stow also.
Oh, yeah, that's what we need: more perl.
On 27/11/2012, Raphael Proust wrote:
> darcs?
>
> (Yes, I know, it's not written in C. The interface is very clean
> though. There is no branching, no history rewritting, no bells and
> whistles.)
It's not in C, but Haskell code can be easily compiled and distributed
in binary form.
Darcs has no
Hello all. Starch Linux has its own web site now:
http://starchlinux.org
so further announcements will be made there.
As a reminder, the earlier thread: http://lists.suckless.org/dev/1210/13050.html
Ports: https://github.com/StarchLinux/starch-ports
Cheers,
Strake
is stable.
Yes, thanks for the tip. I must further study the options.
Cheers,
Strake
some live cd), download a static build of pacman, mount the
> partition you want to install on, and simply run; ./pacman -S base -r /mnt
Yes, true. I added a note to InstallationGuide.
> All the best with this new distro.
Thanks.
Cheers,
Strake
On 07/12/2012, Hugues Moretto-Viry wrote:
> A lightweight forum could be useful too.
I agree. Ergo, I added one.
http://starchlinux.org/Forum/
On 07/12/2012, hiro <23h...@gmail.com> wrote:
> it asked me if tux is cute and after I answered it isn't the web site
> said I'm a robot. please just go on using mailing lists. forums (and
> most other web shit) suck.
Try now (^_~)
On 07/12/2012, hiro <23h...@gmail.com> wrote:
> forums
and the plural is "fora".
On 08/12/2012, lordkrandel wrote:
> On 08/12/2012 05:30, Kai Hendry wrote:
>> Stick to a mailing list with Web archives.
>
> I've always thought that forums, bbs and mailing lists are
> "plain old hierarchical filesystems" gone astray. These tools represent
> bad implementations of written communi
What it says.
d...@lists.starchlinux.org
http://lists.starchlinux.org/listinfo.cgi/dev-starchlinux.org
Cheers,
Strake
On 08/12/2012, Hugues Moretto-Viry wrote:
> Subscribed.
> About installer, why not fork Arch-Install-Scripts?
> https://github.com/falconindy/arch-install-scripts
I may at some time, but my priority is a full self-hosted build.
On 06/01/2013, pancake wrote:
> Didnt checked, but i guess that ls -s show size in bytes and du in block
> bytes, which depends on filesystem.
Nope. Both show size in blocks [1].
It seems proper to do so in ls alone, with a flag of whether to add
sizes of all files below; thus we could drop du.
On 07/01/2013, Raphael Proust wrote:
> Real difference is du handles hard links (i.e. shows actual disk usage
> (as one would expect) by counting hard-linked files only once) while
> ls list files (as one would expect) (and optionally gives some
> information about them). Which wins.
Ah, yes, I m
On 10/01/2013, Mihail Zenkov wrote:
>> I have also tested in the virtual terminal of the kenel (you called it
>> 'pure console') and I get the values you said:
>>
>>
>> Shift-F1 = ^[[25~
>> F11 = ^[[23~
>
> I check again - in my system I have ^[[23~ for Shift+F1 and F11. Can
>
On 06/02/2013, Peter Hartman wrote:
> 2013/2/6 Manolo Martínez :
>> On 02/06/13 at 03:29pm, Peter Hartman wrote:
>>> LaTeX
>>>
>> I use and love LaTeX, but LaTeX is *not* lightweight.
>
> Depends on the measure, but it is lighter both in terms of its source,
> memory footprint, and deps than any a
On 13/02/2013, Hugues Moretto-Viry wrote:
> I already started a similar topic some months ago where I asked you your
> opinion.
> Now, the project seems to move fast, this is why I start another
> subject.
> The aim is different now, and I want to have some details from Suckless
> community / deve
rather than util-linux, which is crap.
https://github.com/strake/linuxutils
Very incomplete yet, just mount, umount, mountpoint, setsid, and
pivot_root, but ultimately I hope to have a full tool set.
Cheers,
Strake
On 02/03/2013, Chris Down wrote:
> I like the idea. mountpoint.sh could be improved. Do you prefer
> patches as a GitHub pull request or by git format-patch?
The former, tho either is cool.
Cheers,
Strake
On 10/03/2013, hiro <23h...@gmail.com> wrote:
> are there any other new usable browsers lately? other ideas,
> recommendations?
Netsurf, maybe? It's written in pure C, at least.
http://netsurf-browser.org
Cheers,
Strake
On 21/03/2013, Christian Neukirchen wrote:
> I would like to give a talk called "runit & ignite - a suckless init
> system?", but I'm asking whether there is interest first since I noticed
> these projects in the suckless context yet.
>
> runit is a reliable init system based on service supervisio
On 23/03/2013, hiro <23h...@gmail.com> wrote:
>> initscripts are weak.
>
> what do you need them to do? what does weak really mean here?
Sorry, my comment was indeed vague.
I meant the Arch initscripts, tho this may well be true of many:
* won't automatically re-start service that dies; network
On 25/03/2013, hiro <23h...@gmail.com> wrote:
> That's all fixable without creating huge systems or frameworks.
I agree. I never said that I want a huge system or framework.
> I think you're just confused from what ubuntu made you think is useful.
I think you're just confused about whether you'r
On 25/03/2013, hiro <23h...@gmail.com> wrote:
> So then weak is rather sufficient. Sorry, it sounded like this up
> there was your wishlist.
It was.
> Now it got to be a good example of what I really don't need in my init
> scripts :)
Glad to help.
On 29/03/2013, Calvin Morrison wrote:
> See opening images is not the same as having images on your buffer, namely
> for the reason
> of being able to look back in your buffer and see the images that have been
> opened
>
> say I wanted all my photos in my collection from 2012, 3rd month, for
> m
On 06/04/2013, Igor Šarić wrote:
> Pardon my ignorance, but how do I find commit 9c44229c? All the commits on
> git webpage have longer (sha1?) hashes.
That string should be a prefix of the hash.
On 11/04/2013, Max DeLiso wrote:
> I completely agree that Windows is a legacy OS, but plenty of people are
> still forced to use it for many legitimate reasons.
Forced? How? At knifepoint?
On 12/04/2013, Max DeLiso wrote:
> I really only still run windows because I play
> some games which only run on windows.
Wine?
On 14/04/2013, Christoph Lohmann <2...@r-36.net> wrote:
> The benchmark consists of running every website on a RPi Model B in
> surf, count how long it takes to load the website and compare the value
> of reaction time and loading time to a reference website. If the website
> is unusable (rea
On 15/04/2013, random...@fastmail.us wrote:
> On Mon, Apr 15, 2013, at 10:58, Martti Kühne wrote:
>> According to a quick google those chars can become as wide as 6
>> bytes,
>
> No, they can't. I have no idea what your source on this is.
In UTF-8 the maximum encoded character length is 6 bytes [
On 21/04/2013, Christoph Lohmann <2...@r-36.net> wrote:
> Btw. »3 fingers« is really racist to people only having two or just one
> finger.
Which race has n fingers | n < 3?
On 21/04/2013, Uli Armbruster wrote:
> * Strake [21.04.2013 18:37]:
>> Which race has n fingers | n < 3?
>
> Seriously?!?!?!
No.
>From d3455f61a5caaf5d94e2b6c1056fb03713772029 Mon Sep 17 00:00:00 2001
From: Strake
Date: Tue, 30 Apr 2013 23:53:04 -0500
Subject: [PATCH] swap
---
st.c | 38 ++
1 file changed, 10 insertions(+), 28 deletions(-)
diff --git a/st.c b/st.c
index 5251
>From c40205fe15f0da048128f8735fd2140605de5e9e Mon Sep 17 00:00:00 2001
From: Strake
Date: Sun, 5 May 2013 09:35:58 -0500
Subject: [PATCH] not roll our own utf functions
---
README| 2 +-
config.mk | 2 +-
st.c | 129 +-
On 05/05/2013, Christoph Lohmann <2...@r-36.net> wrote:
> Greetings.
>
> On Sun, 05 May 2013 16:49:06 +0200 Strake wrote:
>> From c40205fe15f0da048128f8735fd2140605de5e9e Mon Sep 17 00:00:00 2001
>> From: Strake
>> Date: Sun, 5 May 2013 09:35:58 -0500
>>
tv)) {
> case -1:
> if(errno == EINTR)
> continue;
>
Why are we even using switch here?
>From 8cf77d2d081702c7e0db2bb8724732ca0fa85410 Mon Sep 17 00:00:00 2001
From: Strake
Date: Mon, 6 May 2013 06:29:21 -0500
Subject: [PATCH]
On 24/05/2013, Nick wrote:
> On Fri, May 24, 2013 at 02:02:42PM +0200, Dmitrij Czarkoff wrote:
> Yes. Some site map or apache index style thing that was wholely
> standard and couldn't be "styled" would be very useful.
Over 9p, this would be the directory structure, so it would come for free.
On 24/05/2013, Bjartur Thorlacius wrote:
> On 05/24/2013 02:11 PM, Christian Neukirchen wrote:
>> Types can't be declared properly in Unix.
> In Unix, filetype are defined on a per file basis.
Yes — file type, not data type.
> Delimeters in IPC text streams are defined using $IFS.
> Rc is hailed
On 24/05/2013, Dmitrij Czarkoff wrote:
> There is mime, which can be combined with mailcap in a useful way.
Yes. A web browser ought to have a component to fetch documents and
start the appropriate viewer, as in mailcap. The whole monolithic web
browser model is flawed.
On 24/05/2013, random...@fastmail.us wrote:
> On Fri, May 24, 2013, at 16:02, Strake wrote:
>> Yes. A web browser ought to have a component to fetch documents and
>> start the appropriate viewer, as in mailcap. The whole monolithic web
>> browser model is flawed.
>
On 24/05/2013, Random832 wrote:
> On 05/24/2013 07:13 PM, Strake wrote:
>>> And you spend a day on wikipedia or tvtropes and you've got two hundred
>>> HTML viewers open?
>> Yes.
>
> I meant as opposed to the usual dozen.
>> The viewer sends a "
id with another '-'; as I soon
learned, this is very cumbersome.
I mean to try again, this time with s-expressions, which, as they are
balanced, need no quotation.
Cheers,
Strake
On 12/06/2013, Thuban wrote:
> Hello,
> stupid question : how can you enter an unicode character in st?
> In vim, you do it with ctrl-u+ (where is the code)
> In some terminal, you do this with ctrl-shift-u+
Define a compose key.
On 25/06/2013, Martti Kühne wrote:
> On Tue, Jun 25, 2013 at 4:58 PM, Calvin Morrison
> wrote:
>> my votes are for at a minimum are for:
>>
>> sponge
>> tee
>> pee
>
> And a cloth to clean up the mess...
No, that's what sponge is for.
>From 309ffdb318e67014b8565335cc1d95e4ff5d506c Mon Sep 17 00:00:00 2001
From: Strake
Date: Wed, 3 Jul 2013 07:26:16 -0500
Subject: [PATCH 1/2] bin/handlers: roll up repeated code
---
bin/handlers.rc | 21 +
1 file changed, 9 insertions(+), 12 deletions(-)
diff --git a/
On 03/07/2013, Strake wrote:
> ...
Sorry, I thought that I tested both, but actually only tested the
first. Second needs work yet.
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