Re: [dev] Re: Why HTTP is so bad?

2013-05-23 Thread Christoph Lohmann
Greetings. On Thu, 23 May 2013 08:51:31 +0200 Leon Winter wrote: > Thorsten Glaser wrote: > > > Doing anything else (well, file download is also okay), > > such as this XMLRPC crap, or even tunneling, over HTTP > > instead of just using plain TCP is probably the thing > > the original poster di

Re: SV: [dev] Why HTTP is so bad?

2013-05-23 Thread Christoph Lohmann
Greetings. On Thu, 23 May 2013 08:49:01 +0200 Thomas Dean <78...@web.de> wrote: > On Wed, May 22, 2013 at 20:37:47 +0200, seb.cato wrote: > > I'm not a hater most of the time though. HTTP and by extension the > > web is quite organic. It's like a rain forest. There's a lot of > > things in there,

[dev] [dwm] [patch] Pulling to the master area on toggleview

2013-05-23 Thread Raziel23
Hi, I want to submit a patch which changes the toggleview function behaviour. When I pull a tag (and an assigned client to it) by using the toggleview function there is a good chance that I want it to be in focus. Here is the patch which will pull to the master area and focus the first client from

Re: [dev] Re: Why HTTP is so bad?

2013-05-23 Thread Sam Watkins
> For a special kind of hell, visit UPnP which is SOAP/XML on top of HTTP on > top of UDP which is broadcasted. Lol, yeah it is possible to do crazy things with HTTP and HTML (or anything). And the newer versions suffer from extreme featuritis / accumulation of cruft. Most of that can be ignored

Re: [dev] Re: Why HTTP is so bad?

2013-05-23 Thread Anthony J. Bentley
Sam Watkins writes: > I'd say both HTTP and HTML started out fairly sane, HTML started out as SGML, which is even less sane than XML. Parsing HTML has grown much simpler over time as assumptions of XML and SGML have been ignored.

Re: [dev] Re: Why HTTP is so bad?

2013-05-23 Thread Sam Watkins
On Thu, May 23, 2013 at 06:44:13PM -0600, Anthony J. Bentley wrote: > HTML started out as SGML, which is even less sane than XML. It's a lot more sane than binary word / wordperfect documents and such. What do you suggest is better than HTML? troff? TeX? docbook? markdown? And what should repl

Re: [dev] Re: Why HTTP is so bad?

2013-05-23 Thread Chris Down
On 24 May 2013 11:03, Sam Watkins wrote: > On Thu, May 23, 2013 at 06:44:13PM -0600, Anthony J. Bentley wrote: >> HTML started out as SGML, which is even less sane than XML. > > It's a lot more sane than binary word / wordperfect documents and such. > What do you suggest is better than HTML? trof

Re: [dev] Re: Why HTTP is so bad?

2013-05-23 Thread Dmitrij Czarkoff
On Fri, May 24, 2013 at 5:03 AM, Sam Watkins wrote: > What do you suggest is better than HTML? troff? TeX? docbook? markdown? Better for what? IMO a well-designed cross-platform networked RPC coupled with TCL/Tk could render most of JS and some of CSS3 useless, so that the brain-damaged conce