On 05-04 21:50, Bryan Bennett wrote:
Why not just use the built in transparency of the terminal?
st lacks this.
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ilf
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On Tue, 5 Apr 2011 22:58:33 -0500, Hank D wrote:
> [...] but I really want an email client that isn't total ass.
You may find what you're looking for in notmuch [1].
Even if you do somehow come to the conclusion that it's total ass,
the amount of ass would still be notmuch.
Considerable less th
That's a feature.
On May 5, 2011 3:39 AM, "ilf" wrote:
> On 05-04 21:50, Bryan Bennett wrote:
>> Why not just use the built in transparency of the terminal?
>
> st lacks this.
>
> --
> ilf
>
> Über 80 Millionen Deutsche benutzen keine Konsole. Klick dich nicht weg!
> -- Eine Initiative des Bundesa
On Wed, May 4, 2011 at 9:59 PM, Maciej Sobkowski wrote:
> I want to add transparency to terminal windows using transset-df. Is
> this possible to acomplish within config.h file?
Try instead getting a fucking life.
uriel
> Thanks for your patch. I applied it for testing purposes. If anyone
> spots an issue, please let me know.
>
FYI: I tested it and it works great :)
Also making a floating mplayer fullscreen, switch to a tag then go
back and make mplayer restore from fullscreen works as expected now.
Good work!
Hey,
On 5 May 2011 14:23, Uriel wrote:
> > I want to add transparency to terminal windows using transset-df. Is
> > this possible to acomplish within config.h file?
>
> Try instead getting a fucking life.
Transparency does have some pragmatic benefit: in monocle mode
transparent terminals would
On 5/5/11, Connor Lane Smith wrote:
> Transparency does have some pragmatic benefit: in monocle mode
> transparent terminals would allow you to keep an eye on the output of
> several, layered upon one another.
This is the dumbest thing I've ever heard.
> Besides, there's no reason for transparen
On 5 May 2011 16:36, Kurt H Maier wrote:
> Never mind; THIS is the dumbest thing I've ever heard. "Reality"
> (putting aside the idiotic implication that my computer monitor isn't
> "real") also has AIDS and war. Maybe we should patch those into our
> window managers too?
This is the dumbest th
> Never mind; THIS is the dumbest thing I've ever heard. "Reality"
> (putting aside the idiotic implication that my computer monitor isn't
> "real") also has AIDS and war. Maybe we should patch those into our
> window managers too? Then we could put dwm in monocle mode and keep an
> eye on layere
Uriel writes:
> On Wed, May 4, 2011 at 5:22 PM, Christian Neukirchen
> wrote:
>> Uriel writes:
>>
>>> Please, replace gawk with a sane version of awk, like the one included
>>> with 9base.
>
> The awk in 9base is a hacked up version of bwk's one-true-awk that
> supports UTF-8.
That is nice, bu
5 May 2011 17:50 Connor Lane Smith wrote:
> On 5 May 2011 16:36, Kurt H Maier wrote:
> > Never mind; THIS is the dumbest thing I've ever heard. "Reality"
> > (putting aside the idiotic implication that my computer monitor isn't
> > "real") also has AIDS and war. Maybe we should patch those int
Ignoring the trolls posting here - the solution is obvious. Use a
different terminal or apply the patch if it means that much to you.
st won't get transparency (most likely), and transset is a poor
solution anyway, as it makes both the text and the window
background equally transparent. Use one of
On Thu, May 5, 2011 at 6:40 PM, Bryan Bennett wrote:
> Ignoring the trolls posting here - the solution is obvious. Use a
> different terminal or apply the patch if it means that much to you.
> st won't get transparency (most likely), and transset is a poor
> solution anyway, as it makes both the
On Thu, May 5, 2011 at 5:23 PM, Connor Lane Smith wrote:
> Besides, there's no reason for transparency to be considered a bell or
> whistle: alpha is just a fourth dimension alongside RGB. Reality has
> transparency, did you notice?
Reality also has cancer and depression, so should programs rando
On Thu, May 5, 2011 at 1:44 PM, Maciej Sobkowski wrote:
> Didn't expected such a comotion becaouse of this.
Ignore Uriel; he does not post useful information.
--Andrew Hills
On Thu, May 5, 2011 at 11:50 AM, Connor Lane Smith wrote:
> This is the dumbest thing I've ever heard. The comparison makes total
> sense, of course, because transparency clearly kills people. How
> fucking fallacious.
*Reality* kills people. Therefore it's clearly not a bell or whistle
and shou
You know what's great? freedom of choice. You know what sucks? People
telling you what you're allowed to do with the software you use. Is
this suckmore or suckless?
While I have no love for transparency given that the majority of
transparency features in desktop environments are superfluous and
co
> hilarious argument about transparency that somehow
> derived to AIDS
I love this mailing list.
Leon Winter made a patch to support transparency in st few months ago
[1]. It should'nt be hard to adapt it to tip if you want it.
1: http://lists.suckless.org/dev/1009/6046.html
On Thu, May 5, 2011 at 4:04 PM, Al Gest wrote:
> You know what's great? freedom of choice. You know what sucks? People
> telling you what you're allowed to do with the software you use. Is
> this suckmore or suckless?
I'm not telling anyone what they're allowed to do. I'm telling them
what they'
On 05-05 22:04, Aurélien Aptel wrote:
Leon Winter made a patch to support transparency in st few months ago
[1]. It should'nt be hard to adapt it to tip if you want it.
1: http://lists.suckless.org/dev/1009/6046.html
Cool!
Any chance of adding a patches/ menu to http://st.suckless.org/ simila
On Thu, May 5, 2011 at 4:12 PM, Kurt H Maier wrote:
> People who want transparent terminals are incapable of learning anyway.
Why do you even bother communicating?
--Andrew Hills
On Thu, May 5, 2011 at 4:49 PM, Andrew Hills wrote:
> Why do you even bother communicating?
Because for every one of you there are ten who listen
--
# Kurt H Maier
On Thu, May 5, 2011 at 4:12 PM, Kurt H Maier wrote:
> People who want transparent terminals are incapable of learning anyway.
Do you have any evidence to back up this claim?
Because for every one of you there are ten who listen
>
> And 10x more who groan at the immature, rude, and condescending
On Thu, 5 May 2011 16:55:27 -0400, Kurt H Maier wrote:
Because for every one of you there are ten who listen
and lough
-flo
On Thu, May 5, 2011 at 4:59 PM, Robert Whitcomb wrote:
> On Thu, May 5, 2011 at 4:12 PM, Kurt H Maier wrote:
>> People who want transparent terminals are incapable of learning anyway.
> Do you have any evidence to back up this claim?
>
>> Because for every one of you there are ten who listen
>>
>
On Thu, May 5, 2011 at 10:04 PM, Al Gest wrote:
> You know what's great? freedom of choice. You know what sucks? People
> telling you what you're allowed to do with the software you use. Is
> this suckmore or suckless?
Yes, please exercise your freedom of choice and go fucking use Gnome.
> Whil
On Thu, May 5, 2011 at 10:27 PM, ilf wrote:
> On 05-05 22:04, Aurélien Aptel wrote:
>>
>> Leon Winter made a patch to support transparency in st few months ago [1].
>> It should'nt be hard to adapt it to tip if you want it. 1:
>> http://lists.suckless.org/dev/1009/6046.html
>
> Cool!
>
> Any chanc
> People who want transparent terminals are incapable of learning anyway.
I'm curious, how did you come to this conclusion?
> Can we please add to the patch a feature that rm -rf /'s the disk of
> anyone who runs it?
How is this a good idea?
> It is for purely *stupidity* reasons.
What are you basing this on? Can you back up your statement?
Just fucking smell it!
On Thursday, May 05, 2011 03:05:03 PM Uriel wrote:
> We all have had totally retarded ideas, it is only thanks in part to
> people that went out of their way to point out how retarded many of my
> ideas were that I learned and now I know better.
>
I'd like to go out of my way to point out how fuck
On Thu, May 5, 2011 at 8:02 PM, errno wrote:
> Listen to _what_ exactly? There's nothing to listen too, it's just
> substanceless vitriol. Your assholeism is naught but the equivalent
> of a social blunt-instrument; applying a blunt instrument in lieu of
> reasoned discourse is indicative only o
On 5 May 2011 21:12, Kurt H Maier wrote:
> I'm not telling anyone what they're allowed to do. I'm telling them
> what they're doing is stupid shit, and that founding principle of
> suckless is basically sound.
Who's likely to behave more intelligently, a person who experiments
and finds out what
On Thursday, May 05, 2011 05:52:53 PM Kurt H Maier wrote:
> On Thu, May 5, 2011 at 8:02 PM, errno wrote:
> > Listen to _what_ exactly? There's nothing to listen too, it's just
> > substanceless vitriol. Your assholeism is naught but the equivalent
> > of a social blunt-instrument; applying a bl
This is the best discussion that has been had here in a while. :3
Wmii is the best choice, hands down.
The other WMs assume way too much. I like dwm second best.
Here's the plusses:
1) Wmii does tagging /right/. Want to have your editor, browser and
terminal in a "dev"
tag? Done. Want to have your editor in your "debug" tag as well? No
problem. You decide
On Thursday, May 05, 2011 06:12:09 PM Jacob Todd wrote:
> This is the best discussion that has been had here in a while. :3
>
No doubt - I'm actually having fun. It's amazing just how easy
it is to be a total flagrant asshole to someone remotely over
the internet.
It's too bad Kurt can dish i
On Thu, May 5, 2011 at 9:04 PM, Al Gest wrote:
> Who's likely to behave more intelligently, a person who experiments
> and finds out what works and doesn't work for themselves and
> understands from experience why things work or don't work, or a person
> who religiously follows the preaching of so
On Fri, May 6, 2011 at 3:46 AM, Kurt H Maier wrote:
> Transparent terminals unnecessarily increase computational power
> required to render simple text. They make a fundamental application
> harder for a computer to run. This makes the core program less
> portable by raising the hardware require
> Transparent terminals unnecessarily increase computational power
> required to render simple text. They make a fundamental application
> harder for a computer to run. This makes the core program less
> portable by raising the hardware requirements. The only gain is
> (arguably) aesthetic. Thi
On Thu, May 5, 2011 at 10:20 PM, wrote:
> So... Houses simply shelter us from weather. Automobiles simply transport
> us from point A to point B. Should we only live is sod huts? Should we
> only drive wooden go-carts? Of course, anything else is just a waste of
> resources, and computers are
On Thu, May 5, 2011 at 9:20 PM, errno wrote:
> No doubt - I'm actually having fun. It's amazing just how easy
> it is to be a total flagrant asshole to someone remotely over
> the internet.
>
> It's too bad Kurt can dish it out but can't take it; it appears I hurt
> his feelings. I expected as mu
> I build large-scale compute clusters. I build massive storage networks.
I am
> familiar with the sorts of things people are doing with large amounts
> of processing power.
"I am an intergalactic species from the planet .
Your super-clusters and storage clusters pale in comparison to my "
See
On Thursday, May 05, 2011 06:46:00 PM Kurt H Maier wrote:
> Transparent terminals unnecessarily increase computational power
> required to render simple text. They make a fundamental application
> harder for a computer to run. This makes the core program less
> portable by raising the hardware re
On Thursday, May 05, 2011 07:28:56 PM Kurt H Maier wrote:
> On Thu, May 5, 2011 at 9:20 PM, errno wrote:
> > No doubt - I'm actually having fun. It's amazing just how easy
> > it is to be a total flagrant asshole to someone remotely over
> > the internet.
> >
> > It's too bad Kurt can dish it ou
On Thu, May 5, 2011 at 10:39 PM, wrote:
> "I am an intergalactic species from the planet .
> Your super-clusters and storage clusters pale in comparison to my ridiculious banter here>"
If you're too stupid to use google to verify my credentials -- well, I
can't say I'm surprised.
> See, I can
On 6 May 2011 02:46, Kurt H Maier wrote:
> On Thu, May 5, 2011 at 9:04 PM, Al Gest wrote:
>> Who's likely to behave more intelligently, a person who experiments
>> and finds out what works and doesn't work for themselves and
>> understands from experience why things work or don't work, or a perso
On Thu, May 5, 2011 at 11:39 PM, Al Gest wrote:
> Evasive answer.
The question did not warrant more.
> That doesn't provide any substance or merit to your belligerence.
> Vitriol has also been seethed many times in the past on this very
> list. You seem perfectly happy to provide redundant vitri
On 6 May 2011 04:49, Kurt H Maier wrote:
> The question did not warrant more.
It clearly did, the problem is the question was fairly loaded, and
answering the question honestly would have contradicted your position.
>> That doesn't provide any substance or merit to your belligerence.
>> Vitriol
On Fri, May 6, 2011 at 12:00 AM, Al Gest wrote:
> It clearly did, the problem is the question was fairly loaded, and
> answering the question honestly would have contradicted your position.
No, you tremendous ass. The question was framed to insult me if I'd
answered it. It's also irrelevant, be
On 6 May 2011 05:06, Kurt H Maier wrote:
> It's also irrelevant, because nobody is 'experiementing'
> here. There are other routes for 'experimentation.'
Let me direct your attention to the original poster.
> I'm not interested in how you think I come across. Fortunately,
> idiots like you don
On Fri, May 6, 2011 at 4:20 AM, wrote:
>> Transparent terminals unnecessarily increase computational power
>> required to render simple text. They make a fundamental application
>> harder for a computer to run. This makes the core program less
>> portable by raising the hardware requirements.
On Fri, May 6, 2011 at 6:11 AM, Al Gest wrote:
>> I'm not interested in how you think I come across. Fortunately,
>> idiots like you don't control my speech.
>
> And yet you are clearly perturbed by it.
It is disturbing that there are human beings inept and retarded enough
to think transparent t
On Fri, May 6, 2011 at 4:17 AM, Anders Andersson wrote:
> I'd also like to compare that kind of retardness to people that have
> lights *inside* their computer, complete with a window on the side of
> the tower. Totally useless, wasting power, pollutes the vision by
> shining coloured light where
On Fri, May 6, 2011 at 4:48 AM, errno wrote:
> I could of course make some really opinionated and abrasive statements
> about people like you who choose to continue to use hardware terminal
> emulators in lieu of, say, 9term - but that'd be uncool.
I hate hardware-emulation-terminals as much as a
On Fri, May 6, 2011 at 1:17 AM, wrote:
>> People who want transparent terminals are incapable of learning anyway.
>
> I'm curious, how did you come to this conclusion?
There is plenty of empirical evidence to back this up, just look at
this lists archives.
uriel
On Fri, May 6, 2011 at 3:04 AM, Al Gest wrote:
> On 5 May 2011 21:12, Kurt H Maier wrote:
>> I'm not telling anyone what they're allowed to do. I'm telling them
>> what they're doing is stupid shit, and that founding principle of
>> suckless is basically sound.
>
> Who's likely to behave more in
After 53 messages in this thread, gmail just flagged it as spam.
Would that be a feature? ;)
Jase
On 6 May 2011 06:29, "Uriel" wrote:
On Fri, May 6, 2011 at 1:17 AM, wrote:
>> People who want transparent termin...
There is plenty of empirical evidence to back this up, just look at
this li
On Wed, Apr 20, 2011 at 4:27 PM, Eitan Goldshtrom
wrote:
> Hi Everyone,
I suggest you start by not sending HTML email to mailing lists.
Thank you
uriel
P.S.: Can we please get a filter that bounces all HTML-containing
emails with a message instructing people to learn to use their email
client?
On Wed, Apr 20, 2011 at 4:27 PM, Eitan Goldshtrom
wrote:
> Hi Everyone,
> So I started using wmii a couple months ago. It was the first time I wasn't
> using GNOME and it's default stuff and I did so because a friend recommended
> wmii to me. So now I want to know what you all think. Why are dwm a
This thread is no longer fun. Take this crap offlist.
On 05.05.2011 22:04, Al Gest wrote:
> You know what's great? freedom of choice. You know what sucks? People
> telling you what you're allowed to do with the software you use. Is
> this suckmore or suckless?
>
Only sane argument so far.
Anyway, go on list, i have enough Popcorn for the show :P
gr
(for the tl;dr folks - nothing to see here, move along)
On Thursday, May 05, 2011 10:28:03 PM Uriel wrote:
> There is no justification whatsoever for transparent terminals.
>
From a purely sociological/psychological standpoint, I can't help but be
fascinated with this sort of reasoning.
I'm hon
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