Re: [dev] [surf] Segfault bug

2010-06-10 Thread Troels Henriksen
Gene Auyeung writes: > Hi, > > For a while I've been frustrated when I close a surf window, it takes > down the process that created it, along with all windows of that > process. For clicking a link in gmail will open a new window, and > closing that window sometimes closes the parent window as

Re: [dev] Re: Is Mercurial (hg) suckless?

2010-06-10 Thread Moritz Wilhelmy
We had this discussion often enough, maybe you should search the mailing list archive before reposting? it gets boring. (maybe we should add a search-button to the archive?) Furthermore, please stop sending your HTML mail garbage to public mailing lists. See http://www.asciiribbon.org/ for more inf

Re: [dev] Tiling windowmanager workflow (Was: [dvtm] Fibonacci layout patch)

2010-06-10 Thread Sean Whitton
Dunno how interesting this will be... I've recently made some changes to my workflow since I've switched a number of hefty GUI applications for CLI ones, the advantage being that they tile a lot better and so don't need dedicated tags. But I'm still far from comfortable. A key problem is that

[dev] wmii: floating=True not working?

2010-06-10 Thread Davide Anchisi
Hi, I am using wmii-hg2711and the plan9port wmiirc. I have set the following in my wmiirc_local.rc: # Tagging Rules wmiir write /rules

Re: [dev] Is Mercurial (hg) suckless?

2010-06-10 Thread Michael P. Soulier
On 09/06/10 Matthew Bauer said: > Would Mercurial be considered suckless? > > I've always wondered why suckless projects use Mercurial instead of the > standard git for version control that is used by most Linux projects. > > Isn't Git more simpler than Mercurial? more simpler? :) Git and Hg a

Re: [dev] wmii: floating=True not working?

2010-06-10 Thread Thomas Dahms
On 06/10/2010 02:51 PM, Davide Anchisi wrote: > I have set the following in my wmiirc_local.rc: > > # Tagging Rules > wmiir write /rules < /VLC|xine/ floating=True > ! floating=on works, floating=True does not. Seems to be a mistake for the default sh and plan9port wmiircs in changeset 2710:41325

[dev] witray: problem with two screens

2010-06-10 Thread Davide Anchisi
Hi, I have 2 screens (controlled via nVidia twinview), and the wmii bar is on the left screen. When witray (wmii-hg2711) becomes visible (e.g. running nm-applet) it opens on the right screen, in the bottom right corner. At the same time, at the bottom of the same screen, an area screen wide and th

Re: [dev] wmii: floating=True not working?

2010-06-10 Thread Davide Anchisi
Thanks! 2010/6/10 Thomas Dahms : > On 06/10/2010 02:51 PM, Davide Anchisi wrote: >> I have set the following in my wmiirc_local.rc: >> >> # Tagging Rules >> wmiir write /rules <> /VLC|xine/ floating=True >> ! > > floating=on works, floating=True does not. > Seems to be a mistake for the default sh

Re: [dev] Is Mercurial (hg) suckless?

2010-06-10 Thread Uriel
On Thu, Jun 10, 2010 at 8:49 AM, Anselm R Garbe wrote: > Not to mention svn, which is much worse than CVS in any respect. I > experienced the joy a while ago to compile a more recent svn from > scratch with all dependencies. It was no fun and contained many > surprises as its dependencies popped u

Re: [dev] Re: [ANN] wmii 3.9.1 released

2010-06-10 Thread Uriel
On Thu, Jun 10, 2010 at 12:53 AM, Kris Maglione wrote: >> It wasn't long ago that WMII just used rc for its scripting needs. > > Because, as it so happens, I'm not a rabid idealogue. It is not about ideology, but about pragmatism and avoiding headaches and wasted time. uriel

Re: [dev] Re: [ANN] wmii 3.9.1 released

2010-06-10 Thread Ethan Grammatikidis
On 10 Jun 2010, at 14:30, Uriel wrote: On Thu, Jun 10, 2010 at 12:53 AM, Kris Maglione wrote: It wasn't long ago that WMII just used rc for its scripting needs. Because, as it so happens, I'm not a rabid idealogue. It is not about ideology, but about pragmatism and avoiding headaches and

Re: [dev] Is Mercurial (hg) suckless?

2010-06-10 Thread Michael P. Soulier
On 10/06/10 Uriel said: > Amen, instead of wasting time arguing over hg vs. git, people should > instead push to kill the abomination that is SVN. Indeed. I actually find using CVS more pleasurable than SVN most of the time. Informed use of CVS isn't that difficult. That said, I love Git and at t

Re: [dev] Re: [ANN] wmii 3.9.1 released

2010-06-10 Thread Anselm R Garbe
On 10 June 2010 15:34, Ethan Grammatikidis wrote: > > On 10 Jun 2010, at 14:30, Uriel wrote: > >> On Thu, Jun 10, 2010 at 12:53 AM, Kris Maglione >> wrote: It wasn't long ago that WMII just used rc for its scripting needs. >>> >>> Because, as it so happens, I'm not a rabid idealogue. >>

Re: [dev] Re: [ANN] wmii 3.9.1 released

2010-06-10 Thread Ethan Grammatikidis
On 10 Jun 2010, at 16:26, Anselm R Garbe wrote: On 10 June 2010 15:34, Ethan Grammatikidis wrote: On 10 Jun 2010, at 14:30, Uriel wrote: On Thu, Jun 10, 2010 at 12:53 AM, Kris Maglione > wrote: It wasn't long ago that WMII just used rc for its scripting needs. Because, as it so happen

Re: [dev] Is Mercurial (hg) suckless?

2010-06-10 Thread Moritz Wilhelmy
> Tom Lord did a fairly good job diagnosing some of the psychological > aspects that drove the svn insanity: > > http://harmful.cat-v.org/software/svn/diagnosing By the way, is anyone here using tla? I used to, but being involved in some projects using git and hg (and svn for university, blergh,

Re: [dev] Is Mercurial (hg) suckless?

2010-06-10 Thread Anselm R Garbe
On 10 June 2010 18:04, Moritz Wilhelmy wrote: >> Tom Lord did a fairly good job diagnosing some of the psychological >> aspects that drove the svn insanity: >> >> http://harmful.cat-v.org/software/svn/diagnosing > > By the way, is anyone here using tla? I used to, but being involved in some > proj

Re: [dev] Is Mercurial (hg) suckless?

2010-06-10 Thread Moritz Wilhelmy
> tla? You must be joking, latest release dates 2006, it's code is > 150kSLOC (nearly 8 times Mercurial) -- most likely caused by the GNU > factor (==smoking too much weed) and the interface is completely > retarded (and always has been). Uriel mentioned Tom Lord's ranting about svn, so I thought

Re: [dev] Is Mercurial (hg) suckless?

2010-06-10 Thread Uriel
On Thu, Jun 10, 2010 at 7:04 PM, Moritz Wilhelmy wrote: >> Tom Lord did a fairly good job diagnosing some of the psychological >> aspects that drove the svn insanity: >> >> http://harmful.cat-v.org/software/svn/diagnosing > > By the way, is anyone here using tla? I used to, but being involved in s

[dev] [9base] rc can't find .

2010-06-10 Thread Jan Winkelmann
Hi, I was running a werc+lighty+9base setup happily for a couple of days. Suddenly it started throwing 500-errors and lighty log said that rc died with signal 6. I tried running the werc.rc manually, but he throws a rather strange error: $ pwd /srv/http/wiki/bin $ rc -x werc.rc . /opt/plan9/etc/

Re: [dev] Is Mercurial (hg) suckless?

2010-06-10 Thread pancake
What's wrong with the weed? :) My drugs made me write a version control system few years ago named 'pvc' you can have a look in hg.youterm.com as usual. The design is really simple and effective, but it stores full file with no patchsets. So it's a big big the repo.. I wrote it in perl an

Re: [dev] [9base] rc can't find .

2010-06-10 Thread Kris Maglione
On Thu, Jun 10, 2010 at 10:52:24PM +, Jan Winkelmann wrote: Hi, I was running a werc+lighty+9base setup happily for a couple of days. Suddenly it started throwing 500-errors and lighty log said that rc died with signal 6. I tried running the werc.rc manually, but he throws a rather strange e

Re: [dev] wmii: floating=True not working?

2010-06-10 Thread Kris Maglione
On Thu, Jun 10, 2010 at 03:01:35PM +0200, Thomas Dahms wrote: On 06/10/2010 02:51 PM, Davide Anchisi wrote: I have set the following in my wmiirc_local.rc: # Tagging Rules wmiir write /rules < floating=on works, floating=True does not. Seems to be a mistake for the default sh and plan9port wmi

Re: [dev] Is Mercurial (hg) suckless?

2010-06-10 Thread Kris Maglione
On Thu, Jun 10, 2010 at 07:49:40AM +0100, Anselm R Garbe wrote: On 10 June 2010 00:05, Kris Maglione wrote: On Wed, Jun 09, 2010 at 05:49:48PM -0500, Matthew Bauer wrote: Would Mercurial be considered suckless? I've always wondered why suckless projects use Mercurial instead of the standard

Re: [dev] [9base] rc can't find .

2010-06-10 Thread Uriel
werc is not meant to be called from the command line (unless you setup some kind of fake cgi environment for it). I have no clue what the problem might be, but if it worked and now it doesn't, you must have changed something. What version of 9base are you using? Also, werc has its own mailing li

[dev] stderr: unnecessary?

2010-06-10 Thread Matthew Bauer
Does anyone else think that stderr shouldn't be used in Unix-like systems? I think that it could be replaced by stdout.

Re: [dev] stderr: unnecessary?

2010-06-10 Thread Samuel Baldwin
2010/6/10 Matthew Bauer : > Does anyone else think that stderr shouldn't be used in Unix-like systems? > I think that it could be replaced by stdout. Have you ever used a unix pipe before? Wait, you have to be trolling. -- Samuel Baldwin - logik.li

Re: [dev] stderr: unnecessary?

2010-06-10 Thread Matthew Bauer
No, I just don't understand why you need a stderr when you have a stdout. Couldn't you just print your error to stdout? On Thu, Jun 10, 2010 at 10:54 PM, Samuel Baldwin wrote: > 2010/6/10 Matthew Bauer : > > Does anyone else think that stderr shouldn't be used in Unix-like > systems? > > I think

Re: [dev] stderr: unnecessary?

2010-06-10 Thread hiro
Sometimes you don't want to read the errors. On 6/11/10, Matthew Bauer wrote: > No, I just don't understand why you need a stderr when you have a stdout. > Couldn't you just print your error to stdout? > > On Thu, Jun 10, 2010 at 10:54 PM, Samuel Baldwin > wrote: > >> 2010/6/10 Matthew Bauer : >>

Re: [dev] stderr: unnecessary?

2010-06-10 Thread A.J. Gardner
The Wikipedia page on standard streams might also be helpful to read---in particular the section on Standard Error.

Re: [dev] stderr: unnecessary?

2010-06-10 Thread Kris Maglione
On Thu, Jun 10, 2010 at 11:02:08PM -0500, Matthew Bauer wrote: No, I just don't understand why you need a stderr when you have a stdout. Couldn't you just print your error to stdout? On the (probably bad) assumption that you're not a troll, I'll answer the question. Yes, you can print errors