Re: [dev] [dwm] sdl12 / dwm 5.6 /5.7.2 ioquake3 problems

2010-02-01 Thread Nicolai Waniek
On 02/01/2010 08:05 AM, Anselm R Garbe wrote: > What do you exactly mean? I guess he means that when dragging windows in float mode, some applications behave like f***. For example, start a ddd session over ssh and move the window around when the debugger is running. Though I'm using xmonad, the b

Re: [dev] [dwm] sdl12 / dwm 5.6 /5.7.2 ioquake3 problems

2010-02-01 Thread Nicolai Waniek
Oh and what he might mean with outline moving: just drawing the outline of a window that is to be moved, looking as if you only move around its border to the window's future position and not actually moving the window until you have decided where to place it.

Re: [dev] [OFFTOPIC] Recommended meta-build system

2010-02-01 Thread Dmitry Maluka
On Sun, Jan 31, 2010 at 11:00:58PM +0100, Uriel wrote: > There are retarded standards for all kinds of crap, too bad that there > are thousands of standards and nobody follows them anyway. > > It is simple, the system user knows much better where shit is than the > developer can dream knowing, if t

Re: [dev] [OFFTOPIC] Recommended meta-build system

2010-02-01 Thread Anselm R Garbe
On 1 February 2010 09:38, Dmitry Maluka wrote: > On Sun, Jan 31, 2010 at 11:00:58PM +0100, Uriel wrote: >> There are retarded standards for all kinds of crap, too bad that there >> are thousands of standards and nobody follows them anyway. >> >> It is simple, the system user knows much better wher

Re: [dev] [dwm] sdl12 / dwm 5.6 /5.7.2 ioquake3 problems

2010-02-01 Thread Gregor Best
On Mon, Feb 01, 2010 at 07:05:11AM +, Anselm R Garbe wrote: > [...] > Thanks for reporting this issue, I will look into it, most likely it's > sdl brokeness. Will see if there is a workaround. > [...] Given that the issue also appears with Awesome, I'd indeed say it's SDL having a problem with

Re: [dev] [OFFTOPIC] Recommended meta-build system

2010-02-01 Thread Dmitry Maluka
On Mon, Feb 01, 2010 at 09:48:37AM +, Anselm R Garbe wrote: > IMHO such a package manager is not needed, all we need are static > executables of each tool what I try to achieve with static linux. Only > exception are config files for daemons and tools, however this is all > achievable using git

Re: [dev] [OFFTOPIC] Recommended meta-build system

2010-02-01 Thread Uriel
On Mon, Feb 1, 2010 at 8:18 AM, Anselm R Garbe wrote: > I agree to all you said, except: > > On 31 January 2010 22:00, Uriel wrote: >> No, it is not OK, the gratuitous fiddling with the .h files is one of >> the most retarded things about dwm. > > If you know a better way, please let me know. The

Re: [dev] [OFFTOPIC] Recommended meta-build system

2010-02-01 Thread Anselm R Garbe
On 1 February 2010 11:02, Uriel wrote: > On Mon, Feb 1, 2010 at 8:18 AM, Anselm R Garbe wrote: >> I agree to all you said, except: >> >> On 31 January 2010 22:00, Uriel wrote: >>> No, it is not OK, the gratuitous fiddling with the .h files is one of >>> the most retarded things about dwm. >> >>

Re: [dev] [OFFTOPIC] Recommended meta-build system

2010-02-01 Thread Nicolai Waniek
On 02/01/2010 12:02 PM, Uriel wrote: > People are retards that should get a life, and developers that can't > pick bearable colors should not pick colors (just ask for advice from > an artists as Rob did for acme and rio). Desktop Look&Feel Communism up ahead. Yours is the most retarded and human

Re: [dev] [dwm] sdl12 / dwm 5.6 /5.7.2 ioquake3 problems

2010-02-01 Thread markus schnalke
[2010-02-01 09:58] Nicolai Waniek > Oh and what he might mean with outline moving: just drawing the outline of a > window that is to be moved, looking as if you only move around its border to > the window's future position and not actually moving the window until you have > decided where to place

Re: [dev] [OFFTOPIC] Recommended meta-build system

2010-02-01 Thread pancake
Anselm R Garbe wrote: People have different taste regarding the colors, fonts, layout algorithms, shortcuts etc. People are retards that should get a life, and developers that can't pick bearable colors should not pick colors (just ask for advice from an artists as Rob did for acme and r

Re: [dev] [OFFTOPIC] Recommended meta-build system

2010-02-01 Thread Anselm R Garbe
On 1 February 2010 11:45, pancake wrote: > Anselm R Garbe wrote: People have different taste regarding the colors, fonts, layout algorithms, shortcuts etc. >>> >>> People are retards that should get a life, and developers that can't >>> pick bearable colors should not pick colo

Re: [dev] [OFFTOPIC] Recommended meta-build system

2010-02-01 Thread jonathan . slark
> People are retards that should get a life, and developers that can't > pick bearable colors should not pick colors (just ask for advice from > an artists as Rob did for acme and rio). Layout algorithms are more an > intrinsic part of the application and should not be considered 'an > option' (and

Re: [dev] [OFFTOPIC] Recommended meta-build system

2010-02-01 Thread Anselm R Garbe
On 1 February 2010 12:52, wrote: >> People are retards that should get a life, and developers that can't >> pick bearable colors should not pick colors (just ask for advice from >> an artists as Rob did for acme and rio). Layout algorithms are more an >> intrinsic part of the application and shou

Re: [dev] [OFFTOPIC] Recommended meta-build system

2010-02-01 Thread anonymous
> Having said that, in case of rfork vice versa from FreeBSD. Yes, I am talking about FreeBSD. With configure you can make your program portable between FreeBSD and Linux. Most probably other systems won't implement clone/rfork their own way so program will be portable between all systems with som

Re: [dev] [OFFTOPIC] Recommended meta-build system

2010-02-01 Thread Anselm R Garbe
On 1 February 2010 13:06, anonymous wrote: >> Having said that, in case of rfork vice versa from FreeBSD. > > Yes, I am talking about FreeBSD. With configure you can make your > program portable between FreeBSD and Linux. Most probably other > systems won't implement clone/rfork their own way so p

Re: [dev] [OFFTOPIC] Recommended meta-build system

2010-02-01 Thread pancake
anonymous wrote: Having said that, in case of rfork vice versa from FreeBSD. Yes, I am talking about FreeBSD. With configure you can make your program portable between FreeBSD and Linux. Most probably other systems won't implement clone/rfork their own way so program will be portable betwe

Re: [dev] [OFFTOPIC] Recommended meta-build system

2010-02-01 Thread stanio
* Anselm R Garbe [2010-02-01 14:09]: > On 1 February 2010 12:52, wrote: > >> People are retards that should get a life, > >> [...] > >> shortcuts are part of the UI which should be sane and consistent. > > > > This is my PC and I decide what colours are used. > like nearly no one changes the loo

Re: [dev] [OFFTOPIC] Recommended meta-build system

2010-02-01 Thread twfb
On 11:15 Mon 01 Feb, Anselm R Garbe wrote: > Well if you ask artists they will come up with gradients, translucency > and other bullshit. I think the default color scheme in dwm is great. Then you are asking the wrong "artists". > >> I know you will say there shouldn't be any options, but even we

Re: [dev] [OFFTOPIC] Recommended meta-build system

2010-02-01 Thread Claudio M. Alessi
On Mon, Feb 01, 2010 at 01:06:09PM +, Anselm R Garbe wrote: > To be fair Uriel isn't completely wrong. In an ideal world everyone > would just use the software as is and not waste time on fiddling > around with colors and such. But obviously a lot of people like > customizing things/making them

Re: [dev] [surf] script.js

2010-02-01 Thread anonymous
This works: window.alert('test'); Numbered links still don't, I'll try to fix them.

Re: [dev] [OFFTOPIC] Recommended meta-build system

2010-02-01 Thread markus schnalke
[2010-02-01 13:06] Anselm R Garbe > On 1 February 2010 12:52, wrote: > > > > This is my PC and I decide what colours are used. > > To be fair Uriel isn't completely wrong. In an ideal world everyone > would just use the software as is and not waste time on fiddling > around with colors and such

Re: [dev] [OFFTOPIC] Recommended meta-build system

2010-02-01 Thread Anselm R Garbe
On 1 February 2010 13:30, wrote: > experts rule: Actually they don't want!  Ever seen a suckless car, or > mobile phone? There was the DDR Trabant, which I consider quite close to a suckless car: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Trabant As for a mobile phone I'd say that the iphone is quite suckles

Re: [dev] [OFFTOPIC] Recommended meta-build system

2010-02-01 Thread Anselm R Garbe
A remark about the Trabant, quote from the Wikipedia article "[...] as even refueling the car required lifting the hood, filling the tank with gasoline (only 24 litres[1]), then adding two-stroke oil and shaking it back and forth to mix." This isn't correct, in the GDR each petrol station had pet

Re: [dev] [OFFTOPIC] Recommended meta-build system

2010-02-01 Thread stanio
* Anselm R Garbe [2010-02-01 15:48]: > On 1 February 2010 13:30, wrote: > > experts rule: Actually they don't want!  Ever seen a suckless car, or > > mobile phone? > > There was the DDR Trabant, which I consider quite close to a suckless > car: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Trabant Well, Trabi

Re: [dev] [OFFTOPIC] Recommended meta-build system

2010-02-01 Thread Anselm R Garbe
On 1 February 2010 15:49, wrote: > * Anselm R Garbe [2010-02-01 15:48]: >> On 1 February 2010 13:30,   wrote: >> > experts rule: Actually they don't want!  Ever seen a suckless car, or >> > mobile phone? >> >> There was the DDR Trabant, which I consider quite close to a suckless >> car: http://e

Re: [dev] Non-tiling WM that can do tags?

2010-02-01 Thread Thayer Williams
On Jan 31, 2010 at 12:47 PM, Nathan Neff wrote: > Does anyone know of a non-tiling window manager that allows you to tag > windows like wmii does? > > Perhaps a plugin for Openbox where I can do wmii-like tag switching, and > tag a client with multiple tags so that's it's visible on multiple > de

Re: [dev] [OFFTOPIC] Recommended meta-build system

2010-02-01 Thread Antoni Grzymala
Anselm R Garbe dixit (2010-02-01, 15:58): > On 1 February 2010 15:49, wrote: > > * Anselm R Garbe [2010-02-01 15:48]: > >> On 1 February 2010 13:30,   wrote: > >> > experts rule: Actually they don't want!  Ever seen a suckless car, or > >> > mobile phone? > >> > >> There was the DDR Trabant, wh

Re: [dev] [OFFTOPIC] Recommended meta-build system

2010-02-01 Thread hiro
Hah, a trabbie sucks less?! That's pure idiocy!

Re: [dev] [OFFTOPIC] Recommended meta-build system

2010-02-01 Thread Uriel
On Mon, Feb 1, 2010 at 12:16 PM, Nicolai Waniek wrote: > On 02/01/2010 12:02 PM, Uriel wrote: >> People are retards that should get a life, and developers that can't >> pick bearable colors should not pick colors (just ask for advice from >> an artists as Rob did for acme and rio). > > Desktop Loo

Re: [dev] [OFFTOPIC] Recommended meta-build system

2010-02-01 Thread Uriel
On Mon, Feb 1, 2010 at 2:06 PM, anonymous wrote: >> Having said that, in case of rfork vice versa from FreeBSD. > > Yes, I am talking about FreeBSD. With configure you can make your > program portable between FreeBSD and Linux. Most probably other > systems won't implement clone/rfork their own wa

Re: [dev] [OFFTOPIC] Recommended meta-build system

2010-02-01 Thread Uriel
On Mon, Feb 1, 2010 at 2:20 PM, pancake wrote: > anonymous wrote: >>> >>> Having said that, in case of rfork vice versa from FreeBSD. >>> >> >> Yes, I am talking about FreeBSD. With configure you can make your >> program portable between FreeBSD and Linux. Most probably other >> systems won't impl

Re: [dev] [OFFTOPIC] Recommended meta-build system

2010-02-01 Thread Uriel
On Mon, Feb 1, 2010 at 3:26 PM, markus schnalke wrote: > [2010-02-01 13:06] Anselm R Garbe >> On 1 February 2010 12:52,   wrote: >> > >> > This is my PC and I decide what colours are used. >> >> To be fair Uriel isn't completely wrong. In an ideal world everyone >> would just use the software as

Re: [dev] [OFFTOPIC] Recommended meta-build system

2010-02-01 Thread Uriel
On Mon, Feb 1, 2010 at 3:46 PM, Anselm R Garbe wrote: > On 1 February 2010 13:30,   wrote: >> experts rule: Actually they don't want!  Ever seen a suckless car, or >> mobile phone? > > There was the DDR Trabant, which I consider quite close to a suckless > car: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Trabant

Re: [dev] [OFFTOPIC] Recommended meta-build system

2010-02-01 Thread Charlie Kester
On Mon 01 Feb 2010 at 13:30:00 PST Uriel wrote: On Mon, Feb 1, 2010 at 2:06 PM, anonymous wrote: Having said that, in case of rfork vice versa from FreeBSD. Yes, I am talking about FreeBSD. With configure you can make your program portable between FreeBSD and Linux. Most probably other system

Re: [dev] [OFFTOPIC] Recommended meta-build system

2010-02-01 Thread Antoni Grzymala
Uriel dixit (2010-02-01, 22:30): > On Mon, Feb 1, 2010 at 2:06 PM, anonymous wrote: > >> Having said that, in case of rfork vice versa from FreeBSD. > > > > Yes, I am talking about FreeBSD. With configure you can make your > > program portable between FreeBSD and Linux. Most probably other > > sy

Re: [dev] [OFFTOPIC] Recommended meta-build system

2010-02-01 Thread jonathan . slark
> You idiots keep missing the point: if you need to change the colors to > improve your productivity then either the original colors were totally > broken and the developer that picked them should get a clue and fix > them, or your brain is broken, and you should stop using computers if > you can't

Re: [dev] [OFFTOPIC] Recommended meta-build system

2010-02-01 Thread Rob
> If you define your personal identity based on the colors of your > fucking window manager I feel sorry for your pathetic worthless life. > > uriel Please keep these unconstrained insults coming, I laughed heartily at the quoted.

Re: [dev] [OFFTOPIC] Recommended meta-build system

2010-02-01 Thread Mate Nagy
> Out of curiosity: what were the other reasons and what did you settle on > instead (if anything)? Windows (and the iPhone) M.

Re: [dev] [OFFTOPIC] Recommended meta-build system

2010-02-01 Thread Nicolai Waniek
On 02/01/2010 10:25 PM, Uriel wrote: > If you define your personal identity based on the colors of your > fucking window manager I feel sorry for your pathetic worthless life. This is not the first time that you confuse cause and result. Additionally, you seem to not have a fucking clue about peop

Re: [dev] [OFFTOPIC] Recommended meta-build system

2010-02-01 Thread pancake
On Mon, 1 Feb 2010 22:31:38 +0100 Uriel wrote: > On Mon, Feb 1, 2010 at 2:20 PM, pancake wrote: > > anonymous wrote: > >>> > >>> Having said that, in case of rfork vice versa from FreeBSD. > >>> > >> > >> Yes, I am talking about FreeBSD. With configure you can make your > >> program portable bet

Re: [dev] [OFFTOPIC] Recommended meta-build system

2010-02-01 Thread Chris Palmer
Uriel writes: > If you define your personal identity based on the colors of your fucking > window manager I feel sorry for your pathetic worthless life. Have you considered smoking less PCP?

Re: [dev] [OFFTOPIC] Recommended meta-build system

2010-02-01 Thread Chris Palmer
Anselm R Garbe writes: > "[...] as even refueling the car required lifting the hood, filling the > tank with gasoline (only 24 litres[1]), then adding two-stroke oil and > shaking it back and forth to mix." Never mind that bit of compile-time configuration -- look at this filth! http://en.wikipe

Re: [dev] [OFFTOPIC] Recommended meta-build system

2010-02-01 Thread Antoni Grzymala
Chris Palmer dixit (2010-02-01, 15:48): > Anselm R Garbe writes: > > > "[...] as even refueling the car required lifting the hood, filling the > > tank with gasoline (only 24 litres[1]), then adding two-stroke oil and > > shaking it back and forth to mix." > > Never mind that bit of compile-time

Re: [dev] [dwm] sdl12 / dwm 5.6 /5.7.2 ioquake3 problems

2010-02-01 Thread Chris Palmer
markus schnalke writes: > Smooth moving of clients affects only floating mode. Floating mode is > mainly a compatibility feature for broken software, and most dwm users > will seldom move a client with the mouse in floating mode. > > As implementing a ``outline moving'' feature adds complexity t

Re: [dev] [OFFTOPIC] Recommended meta-build system

2010-02-01 Thread Joseph Xu
On Tue, Feb 02, 2010 at 12:09:28AM +0100, Nicolai Waniek wrote: > On 02/01/2010 10:25 PM, Uriel wrote: > > If you define your personal identity based on the colors of your > > fucking window manager I feel sorry for your pathetic worthless life. > > This is not the first time that you confuse caus

Re: [dev] Non-tiling WM that can do tags?

2010-02-01 Thread Jessta
On 1 February 2010 07:47, Nathan Neff wrote: > Does anyone know of a non-tiling window manager that allows you to tag > windows like wmii does? just get dwm and disable the tiling layout mode. You could even write a new layout that suites your needs. - jessta -- = http://jes

Re: [dev] [OFFTOPIC] Recommended meta-build system

2010-02-01 Thread Uriel
On Mon, Feb 1, 2010 at 10:46 PM, Charlie Kester wrote: > On Mon 01 Feb 2010 at 13:30:00 PST Uriel wrote: >> >> On Mon, Feb 1, 2010 at 2:06 PM, anonymous wrote: Having said that, in case of rfork vice versa from FreeBSD. >>> >>> Yes, I am talking about FreeBSD. With configure you can mak

Re: [dev] [OFFTOPIC] Recommended meta-build system

2010-02-01 Thread Uriel
On Tue, Feb 2, 2010 at 12:09 AM, Nicolai Waniek wrote: > On 02/01/2010 10:25 PM, Uriel wrote: >> If you define your personal identity based on the colors of your >> fucking window manager I feel sorry for your pathetic worthless life. > > This is not the first time that you confuse cause and resul

Re: [dev] [surf] projects with the same name

2010-02-01 Thread Jessta
On 29 January 2010 19:37, jokke wrote: > Just suckless-porn 8-P~ ...who wants porn with less suck? Seriously? too easy. -- = http://jessta.id.au

Re: [dev] [OFFTOPIC] Recommended meta-build system

2010-02-01 Thread Uriel
On Tue, Feb 2, 2010 at 12:23 AM, pancake wrote: > On Mon, 1 Feb 2010 22:31:38 +0100 > Uriel wrote: > >> On Mon, Feb 1, 2010 at 2:20 PM, pancake wrote: >> > anonymous wrote: >> >>> >> >>> Having said that, in case of rfork vice versa from FreeBSD. >> >>> >> >> >> >> Yes, I am talking about FreeBS