Re: [dev] [sent] 0.1 release

2015-11-22 Thread tautolog
To: dev mail list Subject: Re: [dev] [sent] 0.1 release On Thu, Nov 19, 2015 at 02:32:02PM +0100, hiro wrote: >i gave people a choice of formats that they were happy with: .doc, >.latex and .pdf. >i wouldn't write a patch for something i consider a waste of time. .doc is not portable ac

Re: [dev] [sent] 0.1 release

2015-11-22 Thread n
> ACE hat am 21. November 2015 um 14:36 geschrieben: > > > On 11/20, Claudio wrote: > > I've implemented a web-based "port" of sent called wsent. I agree > > to not use the web for anything so I decided to abandon the project > > after reading the Quenting Rameau post where he suggests a slide

Re: [dev] [sent] 0.1 release

2015-11-21 Thread Markus Teich
Heyho, Claudio wrote: > I've implemented a web-based "port" of sent called wsent. I agree to not > use the web for anything so I decided to abandon the project after reading > the Quenting Rameau post where he suggests a slide to image conversion. > Though, since I've put some effort on writing w

Re: [dev] [sent] 0.1 release

2015-11-21 Thread ACE
On 11/20, Claudio wrote: > I've implemented a web-based "port" of sent called wsent. I agree > to not use the web for anything so I decided to abandon the project > after reading the Quenting Rameau post where he suggests a slide to > image conversion. Though, since I've put some effort on writing

Re: [dev] [sent] 0.1 release

2015-11-20 Thread Claudio
Hi, I've implemented a web-based "port" of sent called wsent[0]. I agree to not use the web for anything so I decided to abandon the project after reading the Quenting Rameau post where he suggests a slide to image conversion. Though, since I've put some effort on writing wsent (which is in still

Re: [dev] [sent] 0.1 release

2015-11-19 Thread Pickfire
A good presentation doesn't need nice slides, but instead it needs nice talk. -- _ < Do what you like, like what you do. > - \ ^__^ \ (oo)\___ (__)\ )\/\ ||w |

Re: [dev] [sent] 0.1 release

2015-11-19 Thread hiro
.txt doesn't have images and videos. i guess i'm the only one who really doesn't care about the nerdfactor of my presentations. i try to put the least amount of effort as possible cause i don't think the format is useful for human information transfer.

Re: [dev] [sent] 0.1 release

2015-11-19 Thread Pickfire
On Thu, Nov 19, 2015 at 02:32:02PM +0100, hiro wrote: i gave people a choice of formats that they were happy with: .doc, .latex and .pdf. i wouldn't write a patch for something i consider a waste of time. .doc is not portable across linux .latex is what people seldom uses .pdf is a bloated form

Re: [dev] [sent] 0.1 release

2015-11-19 Thread hiro
i gave people a choice of formats that they were happy with: .doc, .latex and .pdf. i wouldn't write a patch for something i consider a waste of time.

Re: [dev] [sent] 0.1 release

2015-11-19 Thread Markus Teich
hiro wrote: > I have done some presentations in word, fixing errors that i did in the night > before while still presenting. people *love* the instant gratification of > having their contribution incorporated into the "slide" in the most visible > way. Heyho hiro, you're welcome to provide a patc

Re: [dev] [sent] 0.1 release

2015-11-19 Thread hiro
an other funny related story: I have done some presentations in word, fixing errors that i did in the night before while still presenting. people *love* the instant gratification of having their contribution incorporated into the "slide" in the most visible way. and the scrolling didn't disturb an

Re: [dev] [sent] 0.1 release

2015-11-19 Thread n
> Quentin Rameau hat am 19. November 2015 um 12:02 > geschrieben: > > > > > I propose some masochist makes a little sent -> html convertor > > > (with a light sprinkling of javascript to advance to the next slide > > > with one keypress). It wouldn't be hard, but it also wouldn't be > > > very

Re: [dev] [sent] 0.1 release

2015-11-19 Thread Quentin Rameau
> > I propose some masochist makes a little sent -> html convertor > > (with a light sprinkling of javascript to advance to the next slide > > with one keypress). It wouldn't be hard, but it also wouldn't be > > very satisfying. But it would be useful. > > Good idea in my opinion. sent2html soun

Re: [dev] [sent] 0.1 release

2015-11-19 Thread n
> Nick hat am 19. November 2015 um 11:19 geschrieben: > > > Quoth hiro: > > >> presentations suck. > > >> and this shit here is worse than powerpoint cause i can't display it > > >> on someone else's computer. > > > > > > You can, even on Mac OS X and Windows. Sent should work there as well >

Re: [dev] [sent] 0.1 release

2015-11-19 Thread Nick
Quoth hiro: > >> presentations suck. > >> and this shit here is worse than powerpoint cause i can't display it > >> on someone else's computer. > > > > You can, even on Mac OS X and Windows. Sent should work there as well > > using XQuartz and other goodies. > > Some people don't like to have shit

Re: [dev] [sent] 0.1 release

2015-11-18 Thread Markus Teich
Joerg Jung wrote: > However, can you tag/roll a new release/tarball please? Heyho Joerg, I plan to make a 0.2 bugfix release before merging the farbfeld change. However I would like to wait a few days before that to see if you guys find some more bugs. ;) --Markus

Re: [dev] [sent] 0.1 release

2015-11-18 Thread hiro
>> presentations suck. >> and this shit here is worse than powerpoint cause i can't display it >> on someone else's computer. > > You can, even on Mac OS X and Windows. Sent should work there as well > using XQuartz and other goodies. Some people don't like to have shit of dubious quality installe

Re: [dev] [sent] 0.1 release

2015-11-18 Thread hiro
> Chill down, no one forces you to watch the videos. Sadly I have not watched a single video from slcon yet. My critique is based on average presentations I attended in real life, and I include my own presentations in that criticism, they are never as good as I would like them to be :) Some stuff

Re: [dev] [sent] 0.1 release

2015-11-18 Thread Joerg Jung
On Wed, Nov 18, 2015 at 11:32:18PM +0100, Markus Teich wrote: > Qentin Rameau wrote: > > > > > 'sent empty' with empty being a 0-length file will produce a > > > > > memory access error. > > > > I think I was able to fix that, please try the recent patch I posted on > > hackers@. Yes, the last ch

Re: [dev] [sent] 0.1 release

2015-11-18 Thread Markus Teich
Qentin Rameau wrote: > > > > 'sent empty' with empty being a 0-length file will produce a > > > > memory access error. > > I think I was able to fix that, please try the recent patch I posted on > hackers@. Heyho, Yeah, sorry, I forgot to commit and push my fix, but now it should really be fine,

Re: [dev] [sent] 0.1 release

2015-11-18 Thread Joerg Jung
On Wed, Nov 18, 2015 at 10:47:39PM +0100, Markus Teich wrote: > Joerg Jung wrote: > > Have you compiled sent with address sanitizer as suggested in the link, or > > enabled the malloc.conf J option on OpenBSD, as mentioned above? > > Heyho Joerg, > > sorry, I missed that point. Please check again

Re: [dev] [sent] 0.1 release

2015-11-18 Thread Qentin Rameau
On Wed, 18 Nov 2015 21:48:11 +0100 Joerg Jung wrote: Hi Joerg, > > > 'sent empty' with empty being a 0-length file will produce a > > > memory access error. I think I was able to fix that, please try the recent patch I posted on hackers@.

Re: [dev] [sent] 0.1 release

2015-11-18 Thread Markus Teich
Joerg Jung wrote: > Have you compiled sent with address sanitizer as suggested in the link, or > enabled the malloc.conf J option on OpenBSD, as mentioned above? Heyho Joerg, sorry, I missed that point. Please check again, I just pushed a fix, which should work. I could not test it, since I don't

Re: [dev] [sent] 0.1 release

2015-11-18 Thread Joerg Jung
On Wed, Nov 18, 2015 at 12:53:16AM +0100, Markus Teich wrote: > Joerg Jung wrote: > > Here comes another one... > > > > As mentioned in this thread: > > http://marc.info/?t=14477246942&r=1&w=2 in this mail: > > http://marc.info/?l=oss-security&m=144774881126397&w=2 > > > > 'sent empty' with e

Re: [dev] [sent] 0.1 release

2015-11-18 Thread FRIGN
On Wed, 18 Nov 2015 11:05:45 +0100 hiro <23h...@gmail.com> wrote: Hey hiro, > presentations suck. > and this shit here is worse than powerpoint cause i can't display it > on someone else's computer. You can, even on Mac OS X and Windows. Sent should work there as well using XQuartz and other goo

Re: [dev] [sent] 0.1 release

2015-11-18 Thread hiro
presentations suck. and this shit here is worse than powerpoint cause i can't display it on someone else's computer. something more useful for me would be a program that takes .txt files and converts them into powerpoint slides with double-linebreaks indicating a new slide and the first single lin

Re: [dev] [sent] 0.1 release

2015-11-17 Thread Markus Teich
Marc Collin wrote: > Is there any way to export the 'sent' presentation in case I need to use it on > another machine that doesn't have 'sent' installed, but supports .png ? Heyho Marc, no such feature is planned. If you look at e.g. Powerpoint you also need the application installed. For latex-b

Re: [dev] [sent] 0.1 release

2015-11-17 Thread Markus Teich
Joerg Jung wrote: > Here comes another one... > > As mentioned in this thread: > http://marc.info/?t=14477246942&r=1&w=2 in this mail: > http://marc.info/?l=oss-security&m=144774881126397&w=2 > > 'sent empty' with empty being a 0-length file will produce a memory > access error. On OpenBSD w

Re: [dev] [sent] 0.1 release

2015-11-17 Thread Marc Collin
Is there any way to export the 'sent' presentation in case I need to use it on another machine that doesn't have 'sent' installed, but supports .png ? Have a nice one. On Tue, Nov 17, 2015 at 8:36 PM, Joerg Jung wrote: > On Tue, Nov 17, 2015 at 11:27:53PM +0100, Joerg Jung wrote: >> On Tue, Nov

Re: [dev] [sent] 0.1 release

2015-11-17 Thread Joerg Jung
On Tue, Nov 17, 2015 at 11:27:53PM +0100, Joerg Jung wrote: > On Tue, Nov 17, 2015 at 04:06:26PM +0100, Markus Teich wrote: > > > > there are bug reports and there are "bug reports". > > Here comes another one... Since these bugs are rather serious, it would be very nice if you could tag/provid

Re: [dev] [sent] 0.1 release

2015-11-17 Thread Joerg Jung
On Tue, Nov 17, 2015 at 04:06:26PM +0100, Markus Teich wrote: > > there are bug reports and there are "bug reports". Here comes another one... As mentioned in this thread: http://marc.info/?t=14477246942&r=1&w=2 in this mail: http://marc.info/?l=oss-security&m=144774881126397&w=2 'sent emp

Re: [dev] [sent] 0.1 release

2015-11-17 Thread Markus Teich
FRIGN wrote: > A better way, as I suggested at hackers@, would be to find a way to ad-hoc > convert png's, gif's, whatever, to farbfeld. This would simplify the > sent-code dramatically and also actually bring the benefits of the farbfeld > format. Heyho ACE, as explained in further detail this

Re: [dev] [sent] 0.1 release

2015-11-17 Thread FRIGN
On Tue, 17 Nov 2015 14:32:33 +0100 ACE wrote: Hey ACE, > Ouch, I feel like this deters me from using sent. None of my existing > tools create farbfeld images. The lack of widespread use of farbfeld > will likely result in me not using farbfeld and likely deter me from > using sent. > > I realis

Re: [dev] [sent] 0.1 release

2015-11-17 Thread Markus Teich
Greg Reagle wrote: > There are indeed some people on this list who interpret plain bug reports as > rude and react in a hostile manner to them, even though > http://suckless.org/community says that dev@ is appropriate for bug reports. > I wish these people would adjust their attitude. Not only are

Re: [dev] [sent] 0.1 release

2015-11-17 Thread Greg Reagle
On 11/16/2015 07:18 PM, Stephen Whitmore wrote: On 11/17 00:38, Markus Teich wrote: I also remind you, that this is a developers list and not a user support list (suckless has no users, just developers). Just sending in bug reports without at least a proposal of how to fix it is seen as rude.

Re: [dev] [sent] 0.1 release

2015-11-17 Thread Silvan Jegen
Heyho On Tue, Nov 17, 2015 at 1:18 AM, Stephen Whitmore wrote: > You're welcome -- glad I could help. > > On 11/17 00:38, Markus Teich wrote: >> I also remind you, that this is a developers list and not a user >> support list (suckless has no users, just developers). Just sending in >> bug repor

Re: [dev] [sent] 0.1 release

2015-11-17 Thread ACE
> I am happy to announce the version 0.1 release of sent, a suckless > presentation > tool. Cool, looked at the example and I like the current state of sent. > The next big step for the 0.2 release is to migrate from png to farbfeld. Ouch, I feel like this deters me from using sent. None of my

Re: [dev] [sent] 0.1 release

2015-11-16 Thread Markus Teich
KIMURA Masaru wrote: > > ... takahashi style presentations ... > > you might also check monta method? Heyho, Interesting. Just set the first font to something like `dejavu sans mono` then you can duplicate the slides where you want to apply the monta method and use `_` as a placeholder for the c

Re: [dev] [sent] 0.1 release

2015-11-16 Thread Stephen Whitmore
You're welcome -- glad I could help. On 11/17 00:38, Markus Teich wrote: > I also remind you, that this is a developers list and not a user > support list (suckless has no users, just developers). Just sending in > bug reports without at least a proposal of how to fix it is seen as > rude. So, t

Re: [dev] [sent] 0.1 release

2015-11-16 Thread Markus Teich
Heyho, ret set wrote: > $ make && ./sent <(python -c 'print "A\n"*4000') > … > Segmentation fault Stephen Whitmore wrote: > When running the example presentation, I hit a segfault when I reached the > first slide with an image (@nyan.png). See attached for backtrace. This only > seems to happen

Re: [dev] [sent] 0.1 release

2015-11-12 Thread KIMURA Masaru
Hi, > ... takahashi style presentations ... you might also check monta method? Peace,

Re: [dev] [sent] 0.1 release

2015-11-12 Thread Stephen Whitmore
Congrats on the release! When running the example presentation, I hit a segfault when I reached the first slide with an image (@nyan.png). See attached for backtrace. This only seems to happen if the window is smaller than certain dimensions. I can repro for large text lines in small windows, too.

Re: [dev] [sent] 0.1 release

2015-11-12 Thread Markus Teich
Dimitris Papastamos wrote: > Nice! You might also want to update the news page on the site. Heyho Dimitris, Oh right, thanks. Did it just now. --Markus

Re: [dev] [sent] 0.1 release

2015-11-12 Thread Dimitris Papastamos
On Thu, Nov 12, 2015 at 01:20:57PM +0100, Markus Teich wrote: > Heyho, > > I am happy to announce the version 0.1 release of sent, a suckless > presentation > tool. Yesterday I finished the multiline support and now sent is not anymore > only useful for takahashi style presentations. The next big

Re: [dev] [sent] 0.1 release

2015-11-12 Thread Thuban
Thats great! Thanks! seriously, I really like to have one paragraph : one slide . Much easier to use than one line : one slide. Thanks again! -- /Thuban/ signature.asc Description: Digital signature

Re: [dev] [sent] 0.1 release

2015-11-12 Thread Stefan Mark
On 12.11.2015 13:20, Markus Teich wrote: > Heyho, > > I am happy to announce the version 0.1 release of sent, a suckless > presentation > tool. That is just Awesome. It was only two days ago that i thought i need just that kind of thing. Perfekt timing :D thanks! signature.asc Description:

[dev] [sent] 0.1 release

2015-11-12 Thread Markus Teich
Heyho, I am happy to announce the version 0.1 release of sent, a suckless presentation tool. Yesterday I finished the multiline support and now sent is not anymore only useful for takahashi style presentations. The next big step for the 0.2 release is to migrate from png to farbfeld. http://tools