[dev] Suckless OS (was About escape sequences and stuff)

2012-02-11 Thread Jonathan Slark
Has the suckless community considered starting an operating system from scratch? Linux/BSD etc suck by default as they are evolutions of software from the 1970s and have all the legacy baggage that comes with that. Even Plan 9 dates back to the 1980s. The only new OS's that seem to be in de

Re: [dev] Suckless.org Man page links

2012-02-11 Thread Jonathan Slark
On 11/02/2012 17:52, Anselm R Garbe wrote: On 11 February 2012 17:54, Anselm R Garbe wrote: Ok, done, see http://man.suckless.org http://man.suckless.org/9base http://man.suckless.org/sbase Thanks, I'm running OpenBSD + suckless tools in a virtual machine whilst I'm learning to use

Re: [dev] [dwm] 2000 SLOC

2011-10-31 Thread Jonathan Slark
On 31/10/2011 15:25, Connor Lane Smith wrote: Roff is actually one of the ugliest markup languages I have ever seen. HTML is actually pretty decent if you think about it. It's (more-or-less) XML, which isn't nice, but I'd take that over roff any day. Anyway, the main problem with the web is the o

Re: [dev] [dwm] 2000 SLOC

2011-10-31 Thread Jonathan Slark
On 31/10/2011 13:33, Kurt H Maier wrote: No, it then becomes a pain in the ass for experts, because you get hundreds of illiterate assholes storming mailing lists and irc channels We have literate assholes on the lists instead...

Re: [dev] 2surf, an experiment in tiled browsing

2011-06-11 Thread Jonathan Slark
On 11/06/2011 22:35, Peter John Hartman wrote: Why not just utilize dwm's tile mode and have each link open in a new window? I wrote a mouse button patch for surf, a while ago, that opens a new window on middle mouse button à la Firefox. It also allows using the forward and back buttons on m

Re: [dev] Suckless Smartphone?

2011-06-06 Thread Jonathan Slark
On 06/06/2011 23:31, Suraj N. Kurapati wrote: On Mon 06 Jun 2011 06:16:22 PM PDT, garbeam wrote: Let's talk again in 40 years if you can still read your ebooks by then :) I stay loyal to real books. +1 I underline, write notes, and mark-up passages, and attach little sticky flags as bookmarks

Re: [dev] Distribution

2011-06-04 Thread Jonathan Slark
On 04/06/2011 16:03, hiro wrote: This is the first time I've ever heard anyone say this. Configuring a linux kernel is much easier than, say, packaging it. There's also 'make allyesconfig'. Kernel documentation sucks a lot. I can't say I've ever had a problem with it. Each option has a lit

Re: [dev] Distribution

2011-06-03 Thread Jonathan Slark
On 03/06/2011 12:41, Sir Cyrus wrote: What's the most suckless Linux distribution? This has been covered a few times on the list so you should search the archives online. I do agree the main problem with Linux Distributions is the GNU stuff. The BSDs are a good alternative as they try and a

Re: [dev] [st] Font issues

2011-05-31 Thread Jonathan Slark
FWIW, if one (as I do) always run a tmux instance on top of whatever X terminal one launches, neither the lack of scrollback buffer nor the double-click-and-drag selection should be on the TODO list, since these features are moot granted one uses tmux. In fact, I'd prefer they be treated as bloat

[surf] Downloading files (was: Re: [dev] st -e not working?)

2011-05-12 Thread Jonathan Slark
On 12/05/2011 23:39, Connor Lane Smith wrote: On 12 May 2011 23:34, Sir Cyrus wrote: However I'm still having trouble downloading files in surf. I've tried recompiling using "st" in place of "xterm" in config.def.h, as well as creating a symbolic link from xterm to st, but neither seem to work.

Re: [dev] [st] Mouse usage in Vim

2011-05-10 Thread Jonathan Slark
On 10/05/2011 22:04, Aurélien Aptel wrote: On Tue, May 10, 2011 at 10:27 PM, Aurélien Aptel wrote: Ok, it's in tip. I have not modified st terminfo entry so be sure to test with $ TERM=xterm vim /tmp/foo Nevermind, I found the capcode for the mouse reporting. Make sure you recompile the term

[dev] [st] Mouse usage in Vim

2011-05-09 Thread Jonathan Slark
Hi, I use a version of Vim compiled with X11 support. When running vim under urxvt I can use the mouse for Visual Mode etc. This doesn't work for me under st. I tried using "TERM=xterm vim" but that didn't help. Is this something that would be added when the xterm compliance feature is i

Re: [dev] [dmenu] vertical list bugs and patch

2010-03-07 Thread jonathan . slark
> > As a remark: The plan is to remove the cursor handling from dmenu > > again, since it violates the single purpose idea of dmenu. Instead > > there will be a dinput or sinput program that basically is nothing > > else as a text field widget that prints the input to standard out. > > That seems

Re: [dev] unsubscribe

2010-03-05 Thread jonathan . slark
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Re: [dev] [OFFTOPIC] Recommended meta-build system

2010-02-01 Thread jonathan . slark
> You idiots keep missing the point: if you need to change the colors to > improve your productivity then either the original colors were totally > broken and the developer that picked them should get a clue and fix > them, or your brain is broken, and you should stop using computers if > you can't

Re: [dev] [OFFTOPIC] Recommended meta-build system

2010-02-01 Thread jonathan . slark
> People are retards that should get a life, and developers that can't > pick bearable colors should not pick colors (just ask for advice from > an artists as Rob did for acme and rio). Layout algorithms are more an > intrinsic part of the application and should not be considered 'an > option' (and

Re: [dev] [surf] Segmentation fault when clicking border

2010-01-30 Thread Jonathan Slark
> $ G_DEBUG=fatal-criticals gdb ./surf > (gdb) cont > ... > (gdb) bt Backtrace from clicking anywhere on the window border of surf under dwm: #0 0xb71ae968 in _gdk_windowing_got_event () from /usr/lib/libgdk-x11-2.0.so.0 #1 0xb71cae47 in _gdk_events_queue () from /usr/lib/libgdk-x11-2.0.so.0 #2

Re: [dev] [surf] Segmentation fault when clicking border

2010-01-29 Thread Jonathan Slark
> That's a corner case ;) An edge case surely. Jon.

Re: [dev] [dmenu] terminus-font (was xft patch)

2010-01-29 Thread Jonathan Slark
> Hi, > If you are archlinux user check it > 32bit: > http://archrepo.spof.pl/i686/terminus-font-4.28-3-i686.pkg.tar.gz > 64bit > http://www.dziq.pl/uploads/terminus-font-4.28-3-x86_64.pkg.tar.gz > It's patched version of terminus font. IMO looks very good. Precedence: list Reply-To: dev mail lis

[dev] [surf] Segmentation fault when clicking border

2010-01-29 Thread Jonathan Slark
I'm running surf under dwm. I accidently clicked it's border and *womph* it disapeared! I ran surf from a terminal so I could see any output and repeated the click, it did the same thing saying there was a segmentation fault. Other windows in dwm don't seem to have the same problem; if I clic

[dev] Distribution

2010-01-18 Thread Jonathan Slark
I was wondering what distros people use on this mailing list? I've tried a lot and I'm not happy with any of them. All I need is a toolchain/dev utils with minimal X install. I would then compile all the apps/dwm myself and install using the package manager. Arch Linux comes pretty close bu

Re: [dev] include files should never include include files?

2010-01-16 Thread Jonathan Slark
On 16/01/10 15:41, Joseph Xu wrote: This is a little surprising to me as I'm used to putting includes in include files all the time. I do use #ifdef header guards, and I've never really had any problems violating this rule. So my first question is, has anybody actually ran into problems due to vi

Re: [dev] [dmenu] Vertical bug

2009-12-03 Thread Jonathan Slark
pancake wrote: Jonathan Slark wrote: Anselm R Garbe wrote: 2009/12/2 Tadeusz Sośnierz : Looks like dmenu (in tip) ignores the -l argument, assuming 10 anyway. Thanks for reporting the dmenu issues with hg tip. I'll look into them soon once my first stali release is ready. Cheers, A

Re: [dev] [dmenu] Vertical bug

2009-12-03 Thread Jonathan Slark
Anselm R Garbe wrote: 2009/12/2 Tadeusz Sośnierz : Looks like dmenu (in tip) ignores the -l argument, assuming 10 anyway. Thanks for reporting the dmenu issues with hg tip. I'll look into them soon once my first stali release is ready. Cheers, Anselm First stali release is nearly ready? O_o

[dev] [surf] Man fix patch and feature inquiry

2009-12-02 Thread Jonathan Slark
Hi all, I just made a small fix to the surf man page which adds a few missing keys. The go to next/previous search result is quite important, I didn't release it existed till I noticed in the config.h some while after first using surf, I was thinking about writing the functions myself :o.

Re: [dev] Binding mouse events in surf

2009-12-02 Thread Jonathan Slark
Josh Rickmar wrote: Is there any way to currently bind mouse buttons to functions in surf's config.h? I'm trying to figure out a way to make the forward/backward buttons on my mouse (buttons 8 and 9) call the navigate function. Are there any GDK_* values for the mouse which will work? If somethi