Re: [dev] Re: sbase

2011-05-25 Thread Anselm R Garbe
On 26 May 2011 07:18, pancake wrote: > What about cat and tac? I already pushed tac to 9base few time ago, but it > was removed.. It fits better in sbase. Afaik tac sucks more, as it is quite an arbitrary command, not part of Plan 9 and can be imitated with a awk one liner like awk '{a[i++]=$0}

Re: [dev] Re: sbase

2011-05-25 Thread pancake
What about cat and tac? I already pushed tac to 9base few time ago, but it was removed.. It fits better in sbase. On 26/05/2011, at 7:19, Connor Lane Smith wrote: > Update! > > We've got 20 utilities now: basename, cat, chown, date, dirname, echo, > false, grep, head, ln, ls, mkdir, mkfifo, pw

[dev] Re: sbase

2011-05-25 Thread Connor Lane Smith
Update! We've got 20 utilities now: basename, cat, chown, date, dirname, echo, false, grep, head, ln, ls, mkdir, mkfifo, pwd, rm, sleep, tee, touch, true, and wc. I think the most crucial ones missing are chmod, cp, mv, seq, sort, tail, test, and uniq. And probably others. Working on it! I've bee

Re: [dev] Sandy editor

2011-05-25 Thread Rafa Garcia Gallego
Hi, Thanks a lot for your detailed mail. On Thu, May 26, 2011 at 12:33 AM, pancake wrote: > About moving sandy to hg.suckless.orgshould be discussed with Anselm. We can > setup a cron sync to clone your repo.. But it would be better to have it > there. I'm fine with moving the main repo to suck

Re: [dev] mret

2011-05-25 Thread Kamil Cholewiński
Hi, > It would be nice if the textbox can be more 'canvas-like', such as > drawing a horizontal or vertical line to indicate each individual > commands output? Stuff like that. Right now you can embed virtually any Tk widget or any image, simply use the wishpipe. I only started learning Tcl&Tk a

Re: [dev] mret

2011-05-25 Thread Valentin Ochs
On Wed, May 25, 2011 at 05:13:00PM -0400, Kurt H Maier wrote: > 2011/5/25 Kamil Cholewiński : > > BTW offtopic, anyone knows of a decend CLI music player that doesn't > > use any freaking curses UI (like mpc/mpd) *AND* doesn't try to build a > > database (like moc)? Like mh, but for tunes. > > mpd

Re: [dev] mret

2011-05-25 Thread pancake
mplayer -shuffle */* On 25/05/2011, at 23:13, Kurt H Maier wrote: > 2011/5/25 Kamil Cholewiński : >> BTW offtopic, anyone knows of a decend CLI music player that doesn't >> use any freaking curses UI (like mpc/mpd) *AND* doesn't try to build a >> database (like moc)? Like mh, but for tunes. > >

Re: [dev] mret

2011-05-25 Thread Connor Lane Smith
Hey, 2011/5/25 Kamil Cholewiński : > It's just an interactive mockup, a prototype, a testbed for ideas, not > meant for immediate consumption. Nice. I've only played with it briefly, but I get its being a mockup: I started building my own terminal in response to the TermKit thread, and I've not r

Re: [dev] mret

2011-05-25 Thread Kurt H Maier
2011/5/25 Kamil Cholewiński : > BTW offtopic, anyone knows of a decend CLI music player that doesn't > use any freaking curses UI (like mpc/mpd) *AND* doesn't try to build a > database (like moc)? Like mh, but for tunes. mpd with either mpc or pimpd2 as client. -- # Kurt H Maier

Re: [dev] mret

2011-05-25 Thread Kamil Cholewiński
Hi and thanks for your comments. > You are doing it wrong. Mixing code and data is one of the worst > things you can do. Not only for security reasons. [snip] > Plan9 just disables all screen control stuff to just a serial > communication channel. And all the graphical stuff is done on top of > it

Re: [dev] mret

2011-05-25 Thread pancake
You are doing it wrong. Mixing code and data is one of the worst things you can do. Not only for security reasons. Apart that depending on tcl/tk is somewhat sucky. Stetically and in size.. And not really keyboard friendly. The mimetype hint used in termkit is somewhat more elegant, but sucky t

[dev] mret

2011-05-25 Thread Kamil Cholewiński
Hi all, I recently did some UI experiments, and wanted to share the results and ask for insights. It's been long that I've suspected that there must be something fundamentally wrong about depending on emulation of a 1970's piece of hardware in order to give power to our command lines. So far I've

Re: [dev] sbase

2011-05-25 Thread Kurt H Maier
On Wed, May 25, 2011 at 3:31 AM, Marc Andre Tanner wrote: > I think you are exaggerating quite a bit. Most of the uglyness comes > from the  fact that they try to save each and every byte. The rest comes from this monolithic-binary problem. > You might also want to take a look at toybox: I reme

Re: [dev] Re: [dwm] dwm-hg, layouts, setfocus and pertag patch

2011-05-25 Thread Nicolas Capit
Hello, I think this part of the code comes from the "NetActiveWindow" feature added in hg recently. I just tried the current hg dwm version and now everytime I click on an URL in my mailer the tag changes automatically and go where firefox is opened (firefox may call the NetActiveWindow). So it i

Re: [dev] Re: sbase

2011-05-25 Thread Rafa Garcia Gallego
On Wed, May 25, 2011 at 10:54 AM, pancake wrote: > On 05/24/11 19:12, Rafa Garcia Gallego wrote: >> >> On Tue, May 24, 2011 at 6:16 PM, Christian Neukirchen >>  wrote: >>> >>> Remotely reminds me of http://code.google.com/p/aoeui/ which also is >>> pretty lightweight, has UTF8, is binary-safe, an

Re: [dev] Re: sbase

2011-05-25 Thread pancake
On 05/24/11 19:12, Rafa Garcia Gallego wrote: On Tue, May 24, 2011 at 6:16 PM, Christian Neukirchen wrote: Remotely reminds me of http://code.google.com/p/aoeui/ which also is pretty lightweight, has UTF8, is binary-safe, and has infinite undo. ~7KLOC, no curses dependency. This reminds me of

Re: [dev] sbase

2011-05-25 Thread Marc Andre Tanner
On Tue, May 24, 2011 at 09:19:37PM +0200, Troels Henriksen wrote: > Sir Cyrus writes: > > > Not too clued in on coreutils alternatives, but what's wrong with > > busybox? > > Enormously ugly code (IMO worse than GNU coreutils, but in a different > way), and not much hackability. I think you ar