Re: [dev] [OT] What's wrong with C++?

2010-09-11 Thread matus,
On Sat, Sep 11, 2010 at 10:58:19PM +0100, David Tweed wrote: > On Sat, Sep 11, 2010 at 10:40 AM, Paolo wrote: > >>> Why program in C++ when you can do it in C, making the program > >>> simpler and better? > > When you can't make the program simpler and better, or you need to > > do it faster than

Re: [dev] [OT] Music?

2010-09-11 Thread Connor Lane Smith
For minimalism, to some degree, may I recommend The Shins (The Celibate Life, New Slang), recent CocoRosie (Grey Oceans, Werewolf), and early Björk (Human Behaviour, Headphones). I have been told I have a strange taste in music, though -- especially with CocoRosie. cls

Re: [dev] [OT] What's wrong with C++?

2010-09-11 Thread v4hn
On Sat, Sep 11, 2010 at 01:59:07PM +0200, Nicolai Waniek wrote: > From looking at FeFe's presentation just some notes: His complaints are > mostly corner cases. You can produce some stupid corner cases where the > language sucks for every language. Sure, but it's quite easy for C++ ;) After all th

Re: [dev] [OT] What's wrong with C++?

2010-09-11 Thread David Tweed
On Sat, Sep 11, 2010 at 10:40 AM, Paolo wrote: >>> Why program in C++ when you can do it in C, making the program simpler and >>> better? > When you can't make the program simpler and better, or you need to do it > faster > than you do in C, just write C++ or whatever. > > This is just the place

Re: [dev] Re: dwm puzzle [fixed; with blame]

2010-09-11 Thread TJ Robotham
On Sat, Sep 11, 2010 at 04:44:12PM -0400, Peter John Hartman wrote: > > I should have said in my original report that the MODKEY+shift+space > solution is the way I dealt with these problems; I had suspected that > the isfloating rule is being ignored in such cases, but when we ran > 5.8.2 it work

Re: [dev] [OT] Music?

2010-09-11 Thread Joe
[09/09/10] @ 7:38AM PDT, himse...@gmail.com wrote: > I don't believe suckless is a term that can be used to accurately > describe music because taste is subjective. Even the term 'well > constructed' can be somewhat subjective in music. For example, > somebody randomly mashing a piano might seem l

Re: [dev] wmii display size issue

2010-09-11 Thread Kris Maglione
On Sat, Sep 11, 2010 at 04:55:37PM -0400, Benjamin Cathey wrote: Kris I really appreciate all your help today. I was able to get this resolved. Apparently the default modkey is mod4 and I have always used mod1 Dumb mistake but then, it's a Saturday ... Ah, yes. Most people have historic

Re: [dev] wmii display size issue

2010-09-11 Thread Benjamin Cathey
Kris I really appreciate all your help today. I was able to get this resolved. Apparently the default modkey is mod4 and I have always used mod1 Dumb mistake but then, it's a Saturday ... Thanks for the help -B On 09/11/2010 04:37 PM, Kris Maglione wrote: On Sat, Sep 11, 2010 at 03:59:41

Re: [dev] Re: dwm puzzle [fixed; with blame]

2010-09-11 Thread Peter John Hartman
On Sat, Sep 11, 2010 at 04:20:35PM -0400, TJ Robotham wrote: > On Sat, Sep 11, 2010 at 03:23:18PM -0400, Peter John Hartman wrote: > > On Sat, Sep 11, 2010 at 01:35:10PM -0400, Peter John Hartman wrote: > > > But now, after the upgrade, both firefox and open office behave like > > > elitists: not

Re: [dev] wmii display size issue

2010-09-11 Thread Kris Maglione
On Sat, Sep 11, 2010 at 03:59:41PM -0400, Benjamin Cathey wrote: Kris This is what I had thought originally. The behavior made me think possibly something was running that was trapping keyboard input (like a process that did not get a "&" after it). However this is not the case. My old

Re: [dev] Re: dwm puzzle [fixed; with blame]

2010-09-11 Thread TJ Robotham
On Sat, Sep 11, 2010 at 03:23:18PM -0400, Peter John Hartman wrote: > On Sat, Sep 11, 2010 at 01:35:10PM -0400, Peter John Hartman wrote: > > But now, after the upgrade, both firefox and open office behave like > > elitists: not only do they not tile in tile mode (they sit on top) they > > don't al

Re: [dev] wmii display size issue

2010-09-11 Thread Benjamin Cathey
Kris This is what I had thought originally. The behavior made me think possibly something was running that was trapping keyboard input (like a process that did not get a "&" after it). However this is not the case. My old config was in .wmii-3.5/ however I moved .wmii to .wmii.orig just t

Re: [dev] Re: dwm puzzle [fixed; with blame]

2010-09-11 Thread pancake
Thats weird..only possible explanation is that any of those functions is a macro. Which is not the case i think (didnt check the sauce). When using macros it is recommended to explicitly put parenthesis when using any of the parameters of it. Else it can result on shity bugs like this. Btw. If

[dev] Re: dwm puzzle [fixed; with blame]

2010-09-11 Thread Peter John Hartman
On Sat, Sep 11, 2010 at 01:35:10PM -0400, Peter John Hartman wrote: > Hi, > > Before an upgrade to hg tip last month (long overdue, maybe about a year > overdue) firefox and open office used to "behave properly": if I'm in > tile mode and fire up firefox, e.g., it tiles as well. But now, after t

Re: [dev] wmii display size issue

2010-09-11 Thread Kris Maglione
On Sat, Sep 11, 2010 at 03:04:08PM -0400, Benjamin Cathey wrote: Well it worked great! I now have the entire display available. The only trouble now is that once wmii launches, it will not take any keyboard input. It is essentially frozen. I swear I saw this when I upgraded wmii on my Arc

Re: [dev] wmii display size issue

2010-09-11 Thread Benjamin Cathey
Well it worked great! I now have the entire display available. The only trouble now is that once wmii launches, it will not take any keyboard input. It is essentially frozen. I swear I saw this when I upgraded wmii on my Arch install as well however I cannot, for the life of me, remember ho

Re: [dev] wmii display size issue

2010-09-11 Thread Benjamin Cathey
Kris ben...@lighthouse-mobile:~$ xrandr --output VGA1 --auto --right-of LVDS1 --rotate left --output LVDS1 --off ben...@lighthouse-mobile:~$ xrandr -q Screen 0: minimum 320 x 200, current 1050 x 1680, maximum 4096 x 4096 VGA1 connected 1050x1680+0+0 left (normal left inverted right x axis y a

[dev] dwm puzzle

2010-09-11 Thread Peter John Hartman
Hi, Before an upgrade to hg tip last month (long overdue, maybe about a year overdue) firefox and open office used to "behave properly": if I'm in tile mode and fire up firefox, e.g., it tiles as well. But now, after the upgrade, both firefox and open office behave like elitists: not only do the

Re: [dev] wmii display size issue

2010-09-11 Thread Kris Maglione
On Sat, Sep 11, 2010 at 01:07:24PM -0400, Benjamin Cathey wrote: Unfortunately, the results are still the same. The external monitor's entire display allows the mouse cursor, however wmii is only available in the upper left corner. As you can see in the screenshot below, the statusbar show

Re: [dev] wmii display size issue

2010-09-11 Thread Benjamin Cathey
Unfortunately, the results are still the same. The external monitor's entire display allows the mouse cursor, however wmii is only available in the upper left corner. As you can see in the screenshot below, the statusbar shows the bottom of the workable space, even though I can mouse over the

Re: [dev] wmii display size issue

2010-09-11 Thread Benjamin Cathey
Kris I will give that a shot. Right now I am running xrandr --output VGA1 --auto --rotate left --output LVDS1 --off Prior to wmii starting so that, that display is simply shut off. I will add the "--right-of" designation in addition to what is already there so that it will read: xrand

Re: [dev] wmii display size issue

2010-09-11 Thread Kris Maglione
On Sat, Sep 11, 2010 at 09:06:53AM -0400, Benjamin Cathey wrote: Kris Here is the output: Screen 0: minimum 320 x 200, current 1050 x 1680, maximum 4096 x 4096 VGA1 connected 1050x1680+0+0 left (normal left inverted right x axis y axis) 473mm x 296mm 1680x1050 60.0*+ 1600x1000

Re: [dev] wmii display size issue

2010-09-11 Thread Benjamin Cathey
Kris Here is the output: Screen 0: minimum 320 x 200, current 1050 x 1680, maximum 4096 x 4096 VGA1 connected 1050x1680+0+0 left (normal left inverted right x axis y axis) 473mm x 296mm 1680x1050 60.0*+ 1600x1000 60.0 1280x1024 75.0 1440x900 59.9 1280x960

Re: [dev] [OT] What's wrong with C++?

2010-09-11 Thread Nicolai Waniek
On 09/10/2010 07:46 PM, v4hn wrote: > On Fri, Sep 10, 2010 at 08:19:38PM +0300, Nikhilesh S wrote: >> I haven't really understood the problems with C++ that the people here >> that have problems with C++ have[...] > > Felix von Leitner gave a pretty good presentation in 2007 on such problems :) >

Re: [dev] [OT] What's wrong with C++?

2010-09-11 Thread Paolo
>One of my maxims is that "everyone mistakenly thinks that the kind of >programs that they write are the kind of programs everyone writes". There are arguments against C++. Nothing more than that. I'd use Python to check md5 hash of my downloads $alias md5.="python -c \"import hashlib; print has

Re: [dev] [OT] Music?

2010-09-11 Thread Brandon LaRocque
Here's what I listen to: Brand New, La Dispute, mewithoutYou, Taking Back Sunday, The Republic of Wolves, Eminem, Lamb of God, Sublime, The Spill Canvas, Marilyn Manson, Big D and the Kid's Table, Bright Eyes, Cursive, The Good Life, Choking Victim, Leftover Crack, Star F*cking Hipsters, Circle Ta