Re: [dev] Suckless operating system

2010-06-13 Thread pmarin
> Problem is the vast complexity they both contain is hidden inside > libwebkit. That thing is huge. I get the feeling surf and uzbl only > make the tip of the iceberg suck less. We would can say the same about dwm, X11 and xinerama. pmarin.

Re: [dev] Suckless operating system

2010-06-13 Thread David Tweed
On Mon, Jun 14, 2010 at 12:38 AM, Connor Lane Smith wrote: > On 14 June 2010 00:16, David Tweed wrote: >> One of the issues to consider is that what computers are used for >> changes with time, and decisions that one may classify as "the >> suckless way of doing things" at one point in time may m

Re: [dev] Suckless operating system

2010-06-13 Thread Connor Lane Smith
On 14 June 2010 00:16, David Tweed wrote: > One of the issues to consider is that what computers are used for > changes with time, and decisions that one may classify as "the > suckless way of doing things" at one point in time may mean that it's > not effectively useable in some future situations

Re: [dev] Suckless operating system

2010-06-13 Thread Connor Lane Smith
On 13 June 2010 23:28, Matthew Bauer wrote: > I think surf and uzbl are good steps forward in making a kiss web browser. Problem is the vast complexity they both contain is hidden inside libwebkit. That thing is huge. I get the feeling surf and uzbl only make the tip of the iceberg suck less. cl

Re: [dev] Suckless operating system

2010-06-13 Thread David Tweed
On Sun, Jun 13, 2010 at 11:09 PM, Martin Kopta wrote: > Some philosophical questions.. > > What does it mean for an operating system to be suckless? > What features should (or should not) an OS have in order to be suckless? > Are there suckless or close-to-be-suckless operating systems out there?

Re: [dev] Suckless operating system

2010-06-13 Thread Matthew Bauer
I think surf and uzbl are good steps forward in making a kiss web browser. On Sun, Jun 13, 2010 at 5:23 PM, Anders Andersson wrote: > > Is it possible to have an OS for desktop/laptop everyday use (multimedia, > web, > > programming, research, ..) which is actualy usable, not rotten inside and >

Re: [dev] Suckless operating system

2010-06-13 Thread Anders Andersson
> Is it possible to have an OS for desktop/laptop everyday use (multimedia, web, > programming, research, ..) which is actualy usable, not rotten inside and > alive? Hm, I think we already concluded somewhat that a research application is unlikely to be suckless. I'm not really sure what you mean

Re: [dev] Suckless operating system

2010-06-13 Thread Samuel Baldwin
I think the general opinion of Plan 9 in suckless is positive, but most people don't find it practical (probably because it hasn't been widely adopted), and I think most people opt for linux distributions like debian and arch. I don't know many with a high opinion of MS Windows. There's work going

[dev] Suckless operating system

2010-06-13 Thread Martin Kopta
Some philosophical questions.. What does it mean for an operating system to be suckless? What features should (or should not) an OS have in order to be suckless? Are there suckless or close-to-be-suckless operating systems out there? What does suckless thinks about Plan9, *BSD, GNU/Linux, MS Windo