Re: Subversion & Windows

2013-04-07 Thread Branko Čibej
On 07.04.2013 18:29, Geoff Rowell wrote: > On Apr 7, 2013, at 11:58 AM, "Bert Huijben" wrote: > >> >>> -Original Message- >>> From: Ben Reser [mailto:b...@reser.org] >>> Sent: dinsdag 8 januari 2013 21:29 >>> To: Subversion Development >>> Subject: Subversion & Windows >>> >>> >>> 5) We c

Re: Subversion & Windows

2013-04-07 Thread Geoff Rowell
On Apr 7, 2013, at 11:58 AM, "Bert Huijben" wrote: > > >> -Original Message- >> From: Ben Reser [mailto:b...@reser.org] >> Sent: dinsdag 8 januari 2013 21:29 >> To: Subversion Development >> Subject: Subversion & Windows >> >> >> 5) We could rewrite the build system to use something l

RE: Subversion & Windows

2013-04-07 Thread Bert Huijben
> -Original Message- > From: Ben Reser [mailto:b...@reser.org] > Sent: dinsdag 8 januari 2013 21:29 > To: Subversion Development > Subject: Subversion & Windows > > We seem to be having trouble getting releases out the door and the > delay is almost always related to Windows votes. > >

Re: Subversion & Windows

2013-01-14 Thread Branko Čibej
On 14.01.2013 09:10, Andre Colomb wrote: > Sorry, I forgot to put in the link: > [1]: http://coapp.org Thanks! I'll look at that. -- Brane > Andre Colomb wrote: >> Branko Čibej wrote: >>> JFTR, I'm putting together a set of Windows deveopment environments for >>> trunk/1.8. >>> >>> The idea is t

Re: Subversion & Windows

2013-01-14 Thread Andre Colomb
Sorry, I forgot to put in the link: [1]: http://coapp.org Andre Colomb wrote: > Branko Čibej wrote: >> JFTR, I'm putting together a set of Windows deveopment environments for >> trunk/1.8. >> >> The idea is to create several packages of pre-built dependencies (debug, >> non-debug) x (vs2010, vs20

Re: Subversion & Windows

2013-01-14 Thread Andre Colomb
Branko Čibej wrote: > JFTR, I'm putting together a set of Windows deveopment environments for > trunk/1.8. > > The idea is to create several packages of pre-built dependencies (debug, > non-debug) x (vs2010, vs2010) x (x86, x64) and one or two VM images. Just in case you haven't heard of it yet,

Re: Subversion & Windows

2013-01-13 Thread Branko Čibej
JFTR, I'm putting together a set of Windows deveopment environments for trunk/1.8. The idea is to create several packages of pre-built dependencies (debug, non-debug) x (vs2010, vs2010) x (x86, x64) and one or two VM images. It's going to take a while. -- Brane

Re: Subversion & Windows

2013-01-13 Thread Philip Herron
On Tue, Jan 8, 2013 at 8:28 PM, Ben Reser wrote: > We seem to be having trouble getting releases out the door and the > delay is almost always related to Windows votes. > > Consider the following data: > Release Planned Actual Unix vs Windows > 1.6.19 10 Sep 2012

Re: Subversion & Windows

2013-01-09 Thread Justin Erenkrantz
On Wed, Jan 9, 2013 at 3:30 AM, Branko Čibej wrote: > We talked about that a couple days ago, but the problem is that a > Windows VM requires a Windows OS license for every user of that VM. > That's not something we can provide or hack around (well ... we could > hack around it, but it would be a

Re: Subversion & Windows

2013-01-09 Thread Branko Čibej
On 09.01.2013 07:32, Miha Vitorovic wrote: > On 8.1.2013 21:28, Ben Reser wrote: >> I think flat out the problem is that building on Windows is just a >> pain. I remember it took me several days to get a working build >> environment so I could be the last signature on 1.6.19. Unfortunately >> I c

RE: Subversion & Windows

2013-01-08 Thread Bert Huijben
versions different from new ones. That by itself makes it even less likely that you receive signatures for those old versions. Bert *From:* Justin Erenkrantz *Sent:* January 9, 2013 4:36 AM *To:* Ben Reser *CC:* Subversion Development *Subject:* Re: Subversion & Windows On Tue, Jan 8, 2013 a

Re: Subversion & Windows

2013-01-08 Thread Miha Vitorovic
On 8.1.2013 21:28, Ben Reser wrote: I think flat out the problem is that building on Windows is just a pain. I remember it took me several days to get a working build environment so I could be the last signature on 1.6.19. Unfortunately I can't be the last vote on the more recent releases becau

Re: Subversion & Windows

2013-01-08 Thread Daniel Shahaf
Ben Reser wrote on Tue, Jan 08, 2013 at 22:08:11 -0800: > Not so much because I don't trust us as because I know not everyone is > running absolutely every test. Speaking of which, I think nearly no one builds+tests with non-standard flags, such as: -DSVN_FS_FS_DEFAULT_MAX_FILES_PER_DIR=4 -DPACK_

Re: Subversion & Windows

2013-01-08 Thread Ben Reser
On Tue, Jan 8, 2013 at 9:10 PM, Daniel Shahaf wrote: > Can buildbot provide one of the votes? Part of the problem with the Windows build is that developers upgrade dependencies to meeting the trunk recommendations/requirements. Then the new versions aren't supported by the old releases. The bui

Re: Subversion & Windows

2013-01-08 Thread Daniel Shahaf
Stefan Fuhrmann wrote on Wed, Jan 09, 2013 at 05:29:02 +0100: > Explicit tests on that platform are, therefore, indispensable. And it should > be two independent votes rather than one to make unclean / incomplete > builds and environments less likely to mask issues. But given Ben's > numbers, two v

Re: Subversion & Windows

2013-01-08 Thread Stefan Fuhrmann
On Wed, Jan 9, 2013 at 4:36 AM, Justin Erenkrantz wrote: > On Tue, Jan 8, 2013 at 10:07 PM, Ben Reser wrote: > >> Given stefan2's argument I don't think it's unreasonable to lower the >> Windows votes, but I think removing them entirely is probably going >> too far. >> > > Given the fact that we

Re: Subversion & Windows

2013-01-08 Thread Justin Erenkrantz
On Tue, Jan 8, 2013 at 10:07 PM, Ben Reser wrote: > Given stefan2's argument I don't think it's unreasonable to lower the > Windows votes, but I think removing them entirely is probably going > too far. > Given the fact that we repeatedly have trouble securing votes just for Windows, I think you

Re: Subversion & Windows

2013-01-08 Thread Ben Reser
On Tue, Jan 8, 2013 at 6:43 PM, Justin Erenkrantz wrote: > IMO, we should follow most other (all?) ASF projects - you need 3 +1s for > release regardless of platform. The fact that we require 3 +1s just for > Windows is very odd - we don't require 3 +1s for Mac and 3 +1s for RHEL and > 3 +1s for

Re: Subversion & Windows

2013-01-08 Thread Justin Erenkrantz
IMO, we should follow most other (all?) ASF projects - you need 3 +1s for release regardless of platform. The fact that we require 3 +1s just for Windows is very odd - we don't require 3 +1s for Mac and 3 +1s for RHEL and 3 +1s for Ubuntu, etc. -- justin On Jan 8, 2013 3:29 PM, "Ben Reser" wrote

Re: Subversion & Windows

2013-01-08 Thread Ben Reser
On Tue, Jan 8, 2013 at 1:30 PM, Johan Corveleyn wrote: > I think the problem is worse with 1.6. At least I myself was > absolutely not looking forward to testing another release of 1.6 (but > did it anyway, after a week or so of waiting). As you say, setting up > a build environment for Subversion

Re: Subversion & Windows

2013-01-08 Thread Johan Corveleyn
On Tue, Jan 8, 2013 at 9:28 PM, Ben Reser wrote: > We seem to be having trouble getting releases out the door and the > delay is almost always related to Windows votes. > > Consider the following data: > Release Planned Actual Unix vs Windows > 1.6.19 10 Sep 2012