Re: Let's branch on Friday.

2013-04-12 Thread Julian Foad
C. Michael Pilato wrote: > On 04/12/2013 01:36 PM, Julian Foad wrote: >> I'll branch at about 18:30 UTC (less than an hour from now) if all >> still looks well at that time. > > Sounds good. r1467414: Branch created. r1467415: Trunk version number bumped. r1467428: STATUS file added on branch

Re: Let's branch on Friday.

2013-04-12 Thread C. Michael Pilato
On 04/12/2013 02:15 PM, Philip Martin wrote: > "C. Michael Pilato" writes: > >> We know the branch isn't RC-ready, so if we cut a tarball, it would be >> "beta1". > > What needs to happen to make it RC-ready? * http://subversion.tigris.org/issues/buglist.cgi?target_milestone=1.8.0&issue_status=

Re: Let's branch on Friday.

2013-04-12 Thread Philip Martin
Philip Martin writes: > "C. Michael Pilato" writes: > >> We know the branch isn't RC-ready, so if we cut a tarball, it would be >> "beta1". > > What needs to happen to make it RC-ready? CHANGES needs to be completed. Anything else? -- Philip

Re: Let's branch on Friday.

2013-04-12 Thread Philip Martin
"C. Michael Pilato" writes: > We know the branch isn't RC-ready, so if we cut a tarball, it would be > "beta1". What needs to happen to make it RC-ready? -- Certified & Supported Apache Subversion Downloads: http://www.wandisco.com/subversion/download

Re: Let's branch on Friday.

2013-04-12 Thread C. Michael Pilato
On 04/12/2013 01:36 PM, Julian Foad wrote: > I'll branch at about 18:30 UTC (less than an hour from now) if all still > looks well at that time. Sounds good. > The releasing guidelines say to create the CHANGES section for 1.8 on > trunk after branching, but that was done long ago. In fact, we p

Re: Let's branch on Friday. (was: "Re: 1.8 new public API review (mostly) complete.")

2013-04-12 Thread Julian Foad
Stefan Fuhrmann wrote: > C. Michael Pilato wrote: >> Julian Foad wrote: >>> So shall we get this branch branched very soon?  For the sake of making a >>> decision, I'll suggest that we should try hard to get the things above >>> resolved by the end of tomorrow, and that even if we don't they are no

Re: Compatibility-promise-less API's Re: Let's branch on Friday.

2013-04-11 Thread Stefan Sperling
On Thu, Apr 11, 2013 at 08:00:30AM -0400, C. Michael Pilato wrote: > The last thing we need is a new "class" of public APIs with special promises. I agree, it would add too much extra complexity. Our API rules are already quite complex.

Re: Compatibility-promise-less API's Re: Let's branch on Friday.

2013-04-11 Thread C. Michael Pilato
On 04/10/2013 09:50 PM, Daniel Shahaf wrote: >> That's unprecedented, we've never released an API "without compatibility >> promises". We could do that but that's a separate discussion IMO. > > That might be a good idea. How about we introduce a class of public > APIs, disabled by default (i.e.,

Re: Compatibility-promise-less API's Re: Let's branch on Friday.

2013-04-11 Thread Daniel Shahaf
Ivan Zhakov wrote on Thu, Apr 11, 2013 at 13:24:32 +0400: > On Thu, Apr 11, 2013 at 5:50 AM, Daniel Shahaf wrote: > > Daniel Shahaf wrote on Thu, Apr 11, 2013 at 02:28:30 +0300: > >> Ivan Zhakov wrote on Wed, Apr 10, 2013 at 23:33:01 +0400: > >> > On Wed, Apr 10, 2013 at 10:02 PM, Daniel Shahaf

Re: Compatibility-promise-less API's Re: Let's branch on Friday.

2013-04-11 Thread Ivan Zhakov
On Thu, Apr 11, 2013 at 5:50 AM, Daniel Shahaf wrote: > Daniel Shahaf wrote on Thu, Apr 11, 2013 at 02:28:30 +0300: >> Ivan Zhakov wrote on Wed, Apr 10, 2013 at 23:33:01 +0400: >> > On Wed, Apr 10, 2013 at 10:02 PM, Daniel Shahaf wrote: >> > > Ivan Zhakov wrote on Wed, Apr 10, 2013 at 21:48:39 +0

Compatibility-promise-less API's Re: Let's branch on Friday.

2013-04-10 Thread Daniel Shahaf
Daniel Shahaf wrote on Thu, Apr 11, 2013 at 02:28:30 +0300: > Ivan Zhakov wrote on Wed, Apr 10, 2013 at 23:33:01 +0400: > > On Wed, Apr 10, 2013 at 10:02 PM, Daniel Shahaf wrote: > > > Ivan Zhakov wrote on Wed, Apr 10, 2013 at 21:48:39 +0400: > > >> On Wed, Apr 10, 2013 at 9:44 PM, C. Michael Pila

Re: Let's branch on Friday.

2013-04-10 Thread Daniel Shahaf
Ivan Zhakov wrote on Wed, Apr 10, 2013 at 23:33:01 +0400: > On Wed, Apr 10, 2013 at 10:02 PM, Daniel Shahaf wrote: > > Ivan Zhakov wrote on Wed, Apr 10, 2013 at 21:48:39 +0400: > >> On Wed, Apr 10, 2013 at 9:44 PM, C. Michael Pilato > >> wrote: > >> > On 04/10/2013 12:33 PM, Daniel Shahaf wrote:

Re: Let's branch on Friday. (was: "Re: 1.8 new public API review (mostly) complete.")

2013-04-10 Thread Stefan Fuhrmann
On Wed, Apr 10, 2013 at 5:34 PM, C. Michael Pilato wrote: > On 04/10/2013 11:23 AM, Julian Foad wrote: > > So shall we get this branch branched very soon? For the sake of making a > > decision, I'll suggest that we should try hard to get the things above > > resolved by the end of tomorrow, and t

Re: Let's branch on Friday.

2013-04-10 Thread Ivan Zhakov
On Wed, Apr 10, 2013 at 10:02 PM, Daniel Shahaf wrote: > Ivan Zhakov wrote on Wed, Apr 10, 2013 at 21:48:39 +0400: >> On Wed, Apr 10, 2013 at 9:44 PM, C. Michael Pilato >> wrote: >> > On 04/10/2013 12:33 PM, Daniel Shahaf wrote: >> >> Right now, trunk has APIs backing an 'svnadmin info' (or 'svn

Re: Let's branch on Friday.

2013-04-10 Thread Daniel Shahaf
Ivan Zhakov wrote on Wed, Apr 10, 2013 at 21:48:39 +0400: > On Wed, Apr 10, 2013 at 9:44 PM, C. Michael Pilato > wrote: > > On 04/10/2013 12:33 PM, Daniel Shahaf wrote: > >> Right now, trunk has APIs backing an 'svnadmin info' (or 'svnlook info') > >> command but not a UI for them. (Some of them

Re: Let's branch on Friday.

2013-04-10 Thread Ivan Zhakov
On Wed, Apr 10, 2013 at 9:44 PM, C. Michael Pilato wrote: > On 04/10/2013 12:33 PM, Daniel Shahaf wrote: >> On Wed, Apr 10, 2013 at 11:34:12AM -0400, C. Michael Pilato wrote: >>> On 04/10/2013 11:23 AM, Julian Foad wrote: So shall we get this branch branched very soon? For the sake of making

Re: Let's branch on Friday.

2013-04-10 Thread C. Michael Pilato
On 04/10/2013 12:33 PM, Daniel Shahaf wrote: > On Wed, Apr 10, 2013 at 11:34:12AM -0400, C. Michael Pilato wrote: >> On 04/10/2013 11:23 AM, Julian Foad wrote: >>> So shall we get this branch branched very soon? For the sake of making a >>> decision, I'll suggest that we should try hard to get the

Re: Let's branch on Friday. (was: "Re: 1.8 new public API review (mostly) complete.")

2013-04-10 Thread Ivan Zhakov
On Wed, Apr 10, 2013 at 8:33 PM, Daniel Shahaf wrote: > On Wed, Apr 10, 2013 at 11:34:12AM -0400, C. Michael Pilato wrote: >> On 04/10/2013 11:23 AM, Julian Foad wrote: >> > So shall we get this branch branched very soon? For the sake of making a >> > decision, I'll suggest that we should try har

Re: Let's branch on Friday. (was: "Re: 1.8 new public API review (mostly) complete.")

2013-04-10 Thread Daniel Shahaf
On Wed, Apr 10, 2013 at 11:34:12AM -0400, C. Michael Pilato wrote: > On 04/10/2013 11:23 AM, Julian Foad wrote: > > So shall we get this branch branched very soon? For the sake of making a > > decision, I'll suggest that we should try hard to get the things above > > resolved by the end of tomorro