Re: MTime resurrected

2012-04-07 Thread Rick Yorgason
So I finally got around to updating the MTime Preservation page: http://wiki.apache.org/subversion/MtimePreservation I ended up integrating all of your suggestions, and I think I answered all the questions. The biggest changes are: * Removed the 'svn:use-text-times' property. The presence of

Re: MTime resurrected

2012-03-01 Thread Rick Yorgason
On 01/03/2012 7:04 AM, Julian Foad wrote: Hi Rick. I see Philip Martin has added some comments in-line. I have now added comments too, as Wiki comment sections which are displayed when you click on the "Comments" buttion at the top of the page. - Julian Thanks; I'll try to find time this we

Re: MTime resurrected

2012-02-27 Thread Rick Yorgason
On 2012-02-21 4:29 AM, Julian Foad wrote: Rick, thanks for that! I haven't read it yet but I've put it up at: Has anybody had the time to read this yet? -Rick-

Re: MTime resurrected

2012-02-21 Thread Rick Yorgason
Thanks Julian, my username is RickYorgason. Cheers, -Rick- On 2012-02-21 4:29 AM, Julian Foad wrote: Rick Yorgason wrote: Alright, after the discussion on Friday I feel like I've got a better handle on the subject, so I went ahead and tried to document the intended behaviour. I no

Re: MTime resurrected

2012-02-20 Thread Rick Yorgason
Alright, after the discussion on Friday I feel like I've got a better handle on the subject, so I went ahead and tried to document the intended behaviour. I noticed that you seem to be moving toward putting new notes on the wiki, so I wrote it in wiki format. -Rick- =Design: MTime Preservat

Re: MTime resurrected

2012-02-17 Thread Rick Yorgason
On 17/02/2012 9:55 AM, Philip Martin wrote: The defailt behaviour is not the thing that is blocking progress. What is blocking progress is saying things like "leave that option out until..." rather than working out how it should behave and be implemented. Okay, we have a misunderstanding here

Re: MTime resurrected

2012-02-17 Thread Rick Yorgason
On 2012-02-17 9:06 AM, Julian Foad wrote: I wouldn't call that email a "design worked out". My reply to that email posed a load of questions and issues to be clarified or re-thought, and wasn't answered AFAICT. Other people did the same and did get some more discussion in that thread, but the

Re: MTime resurrected

2012-02-17 Thread Rick Yorgason
On 2012-02-17 7:21 AM, Philip Martin wrote: - mtime only changes. The old branch treated a file with only an mtime change as unmodified: it did not show up in status or diff and did not get committed. That was convenient from an implementation point of view, but hard to justify otherwi

Re: MTime resurrected

2012-02-17 Thread Rick Yorgason
On 2012-02-17 6:41 AM, Fuhrmann Stefan (ETAS/ESA1) wrote: I'm not championing the mtime feature but if someone demonstrates a compelling use-case, it should neither be hard nor risky to implement it. -- Stefan^2. There have been quite a lot of use cases presented over the years. A is mine; B

Re: MTime resurrected

2012-02-17 Thread Rick Yorgason
On 2012-02-17 4:34 AM, Bert Huijben wrote: -Original Message- From: Fuhrmann Stefan (ETAS/ESA1) [mailto:stefan.fuhrm...@etas.com] Sent: vrijdag 17 februari 2012 9:27 To: dev@subversion.apache.org Cc: r...@longbowgames.com; pe...@p12n.org Subject: Re: MTime resurrected Peter Samuelson

MTime resurrected

2012-02-16 Thread Rick Yorgason
So, I've found myself needing the MTime extension that's been under discussion since 2003 (Issue #1256) and just spent some time reading the various posts associated with it. In 2010 Edmund Wong wrote a nearly complete spec for mtime preservation, after which some discussion narrowed it down,