Re: [CODE][PROPOSAL]: AOO 4.0 getting rid of the 3 layer office, part 1

On 3/27/13 2:48 AM, Ariel Constenla-Haile wrote: > On Tue, Mar 26, 2013 at 11:03:09AM +0100, Andre Fischer wrote: > IMO it was a non-sense from the beginning to develop these > as extensions (at least the presentation minimizer and the > presenter screen, that have no external depende

Re: questions about Base---do we need an embedded DB?

On Wed, Mar 27, 2013 at 2:27 AM, Guy Waterval wrote: > Hi Rob, > Hi all, > > 2013/3/26 Rob Weir > >> On Mon, Mar 25, 2013 at 6:58 PM, Kay Schenk wrote: >> > Well no doubt this may start a rather heated discussion. I started >> looking >> > into the history of the Base component, who is using it

Re: Open-Xchange to launch open-source, browser-based office suite

On 24.03.2013 18:29, Rob Weir wrote: On Sat, Mar 23, 2013 at 3:14 PM, Louis Suárez-Potts wrote: No doubt many here have already noted this: It's interesting. One could hope for poss

Re: [CODE][PROPOSAL]: AOO 4.0 getting rid of the 3 layer office, part 1

On Wed, Mar 27, 2013 at 11:12:39AM +0100, Jürgen Schmidt wrote: > Different opinions came up and we had some discussion and you pointed > out that you can live with feedback. Where is exactly your problem now? I don't have any problem at all. > I don't think that it will help us if we react this

Re: [CODE][PROPOSAL]: AOO 4.0 getting rid of the 3 layer office, part 1

On 27 March 2013 15:23, Ariel Constenla-Haile wrote: > On Wed, Mar 27, 2013 at 11:12:39AM +0100, Jürgen Schmidt wrote: > > Different opinions came up and we had some discussion and you pointed > > out that you can live with feedback. Where is exactly your problem now? > > I don't have any problem

add a feature to the document processor

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Re: Open-Xchange to launch open-source, browser-based office suite

Hi Malte! It's a pleasure to see you here… On 13-03-27, at 09:51 , Malte Timmermann wrote: > On 24.03.2013 18:29, Rob Weir wrote: >> On Sat, Mar 23, 2013 at 3:14 PM, Louis Suárez-Potts wrote: >>> No doubt many here have already noted this: >>>

Re: [CODE][PROPOSAL]: AOO 4.0 getting rid of the 3 layer office, part 1

On 3/27/13 3:23 PM, Ariel Constenla-Haile wrote: > On Wed, Mar 27, 2013 at 11:12:39AM +0100, Jürgen Schmidt wrote: >> Different opinions came up and we had some discussion and you >> pointed out that you can live with feedback. Where is exactly >> your problem now? > > I don't have any problem at

Re: Open-Xchange to launch open-source, browser-based office suite

Hi Louis, On 24.03.2013 00:38, Louis Suárez-Potts wrote: On 13-03-23, at 19:11 , "Dennis E. Hamilton" wrote: The server is GPL and the JavaScripts that run in clients, Outlook, etc., are Creative Commons attribution-share-alike-noncommercial. None of that is Apache friendly. Indeed; hen

Re: Open-Xchange to launch open-source, browser-based office suite

On 13-03-27, at 11:15 , Malte Timmermann wrote: > Hi Louis, > > On 24.03.2013 00:38, Louis Suárez-Potts wrote: >> >> On 13-03-23, at 19:11 , "Dennis E. Hamilton" wrote: >> >>> The server is GPL and the JavaScripts that run in clients, Outlook, etc., >>> are Creative Commons attribution-shar

Re: Open-Xchange to launch open-source, browser-based office suite

On Wed, Mar 27, 2013 at 11:15 AM, Malte Timmermann wrote: > Hi Louis, > > > On 24.03.2013 00:38, Louis Suárez-Potts wrote: >> >> >> On 13-03-23, at 19:11 , "Dennis E. Hamilton" >> wrote: >> >>> The server is GPL and the JavaScripts that run in clients, Outlook, etc., >>> are Creative Commons attr

Re: [CODE][PROPOSAL]: AOO 4.0 getting rid of the 3 layer office, part 1

On 27.03.2013 15:23, Ariel Constenla-Haile wrote: Please don't turn this into a circus like the one with the 0^0. In this we agree :-) While I still stand by my arguments, I see now that I should have chosen different words. I have the highest respect for you and your work and did not inten

Re: questions about Base---do we need an embedded DB?

Le 26/03/13 00:39, Ariel Constenla-Haile a écrit : Hi all, > This is hard too guess. The majority of AOO users are Windows users, so > you can asume that the "average user" that tries Base with a MS Office > background, is looking for something like MS Access. I guess this was > what drove Sun to

Re: questions about Base---do we need an embedded DB?

Le 26/03/13 14:52, Rob Weir a écrit : Hi Rob, > Some other interesting facts, most of which we're already familiar with: > > 1) Microsoft doesn't include Access in their base Office packages. So > on the one hand this means that most Office users don't use a > database, or they do lightweight d

Re: questions about Base---do we need an embedded DB?

On Tue, Mar 26, 2013 at 11:57 PM, Guy Waterval wrote: > Hi Andrew, > Hi all, > > 2013/3/27 Andrew Douglas Pitonyak > > > > > I like an embedded DB for those times that I desire a small DB for small > > data that is relational. For larger data sets, the embedded DB is > > insufficient. > > > > In

Re: Open-Xchange to launch open-source, browser-based office suite

Hi Rob, On 27.03.2013 16:20, Rob Weir wrote: On Wed, Mar 27, 2013 at 11:15 AM, Malte Timmermann wrote: Hi Louis, On 24.03.2013 00:38, Louis Suárez-Potts wrote: On 13-03-23, at 19:11 , "Dennis E. Hamilton" wrote: The server is GPL and the JavaScripts that run in clients, Outlook, etc.,

Re: questions about Base---do we need an embedded DB?

On 27 March 2013 17:12, Kay Schenk wrote: > On Tue, Mar 26, 2013 at 11:57 PM, Guy Waterval >wrote: > > > Hi Andrew, > > Hi all, > > > > 2013/3/27 Andrew Douglas Pitonyak > > > > > > > > I like an embedded DB for those times that I desire a small DB for > small > > > data that is relational. Fo

Re: Open-Xchange to launch open-source, browser-based office suite

Hi Louis, On 27.03.2013 16:03, Louis Suárez-Potts wrote: Hi Malte! It's a pleasure to see you here… I am here since the beginning of AOO - but working on other stuff, it's quite hard to follow the lists... ;) On 13-03-27, at 09:51 , Malte Timmermann wrote: On 24.03.2013 18:29, Rob Weir

Re: [CODE][PROPOSAL]: AOO 4.0 getting rid of the 3 layer office, part 1

Didn't read all the replies, but anyway: +1. Also good for startup-performance, if I remember correctly... On 22.03.2013 17:15, Jürgen Schmidt wrote: Hi, the so called 3layer office is not really useful anymore (it was never) and makes more problems than it helps. I thought that AOO 4.0 wo

Mobility WAS: Re: Open-Xchange to launch open-source, browser-based office suite

On 13-03-27, at 12:36 , Malte Timmermann wrote: > snip > If you want to give me more details about the OOXML/ODF viewing stuff, please > come back on me via private email (but not the one I am using here) or > linkedin :) Sure. Publicly available works for mobile devices include those you c

Re: Open-Xchange to launch open-source, browser-based office suite

Malte Timmermann wrote: for converting different kinds of documents, we make use of OOo in the backend. We found and fixed some issues, and are contributing back the patches... Good news! Whatever way you decide to use to contribute patches (you already have committer access to the OpenOffice

Re: questions about Base---do we need an embedded DB?

Hi Kay, Kay Schenk schrieb: Well no doubt this may start a rather heated discussion. [..] I don't really know who the author is, but, I too, had been giving this a great deal of thought. Does a user know what any of this really means, for example. And, including an embedded DB like HSQL puts

Re: [CODE][PROPOSAL]: AOO 4.0 getting rid of the 3 layer office, part 1

On Fri, Mar 22, 2013 at 12:15 PM, Jürgen Schmidt wrote: > On demand I can provide test builds if there are people interested to > help with testing. > > Juergen > Great work. May I suggest you upload such test builds to some cloud drive (GDrive, dropbox, etc) and share the url to the list? TIA!

Re: questions about Base---do we need an embedded DB?

Hello there, while the base module of AOO is not used all that often, it's the only free database software. If, for example, you want one from Microsoft you need to buy the very much overpriced MS Office Professional. Well, I've used Base already and I find it handy for my personal needs. I'm

Re: questions about Base---do we need an embedded DB?

Just tossing this out...It seems Apache Derby is the one SQL-based DBMS in the Foundation. It's actively maintained, and, while it's written in Java, it still works in a client/server model and is therefore probably launchable. Since it's in the family and all, perhaps it can be bundled with OOo,

Update source code

Hello I want to update the source code. I'm working on ubuntu: Distributor ID:Ubuntu Description:Ubuntu 12.04.1 LTS Release:12.04 Codename:precise How I can do this? Help me. Regards

Re: Update source code

I want to update the source code AOO. How I can do this? 2013/3/27 jorge ivan poot diaz > > Hello > I want to update the source code. > I'm working on ubuntu: > Distributor ID:Ubuntu > Description:Ubuntu 12.04.1 LTS > Release:12.04 > Codename:precise > > How I can do this? > > H

Fwd: Now Accepting Applications for Mentoring Organizations for GSoC 2013

Last 48 hours to deadline, I suggest to verify with Apache that everything has been comited and avoid dropping the ball. -- Forwarded message -- From: Carol Smith Date: Wed, Mar 27, 2013 at 12:33 PM Subject: Re: Now Accepting Applications for Mentoring Organizations for GSoC 2013

Introduction

Hi, I'm Erik. I live in Seattle. I'm interested in documentation -- I've been a technical editor, medical editor, copyeditor, proofreader, and composition teacher for many years in various fields, most recently biomedical research. Although I've worked on various kinds of documentation, I've done l

Re: questions about Base---do we need an embedded DB?

On Wed, Mar 27, 2013 at 11:01 AM, Donald Whytock wrote: > Just tossing this out...It seems Apache Derby is the one SQL-based > DBMS in the Foundation. It's actively maintained, and, while it's > written in Java, it still works in a client/server model and is > therefore probably launchable. > >

Re: Introduction

Welcome there are many needs to update the guides for OpenOffice 4.0 and would be interested to have your writing skills. If you look into the documentation wiki page you will see many guides that are somewhat outdated as theiy point back to 3.3 version. The task is create a user guide for the new

Re: questions about Base---do we need an embedded DB?

What was the original problem that we are trying to solve? >From what I can gather we have no idea how many people use Base. There's speculation that it's small, but unless it's measured, what does this mean? Also, there are some people who think that Base works for them and that it's critical for

How to get mimetype at first position in the zip-container?

Hi all, when I open a .odp file with 7z, I can edit the content.xml with an editor. The file is then updated inside the zip-container. But 7z orders the files and folders alphabetically and therefore the file mimetype is no longer at first position. I have already tried to add the files and

Re: questions about Base---do we need an embedded DB?

On 27.03.2013 21:57, Kay Schenk wrote: > On Wed, Mar 27, 2013 at 11:01 AM, Donald Whytock wrote: > >> Just tossing this out...It seems Apache Derby is the one SQL-based >> DBMS in the Foundation. It's actively maintained, and, while it's >> written in Java, it still works in a client/server mode

Re: How to get mimetype at first position in the zip-container?

Hi all, OK, I found a solution: I first generate a zip-container with the command line version of 7z, which contains only the file mimetype. The command line version of 7z can do this without compressing the file. And in the second step I use Windows7 itself and simple drag the files and fold

Re: Introduction

Thanks for the welcome! I've joined the doc list and I'll check out the wiki page. On Wed, Mar 27, 2013 at 2:07 PM, Alexandro Colorado wrote: > Welcome there are many needs to update the guides for OpenOffice 4.0 > and would be interested to have your writing skills. > > If you look into the do

Re: questions about Base---do we need an embedded DB?

On Wed, Mar 27, 2013 at 2:07 PM, Rony G. Flatscher wrote: > > On 27.03.2013 21:57, Kay Schenk wrote: > > On Wed, Mar 27, 2013 at 11:01 AM, Donald Whytock > wrote: > > > >> Just tossing this out...It seems Apache Derby is the one SQL-based > >> DBMS in the Foundation. It's actively maintained, an

wiki.openoffice.org is down, and pam is not runing so sudo is not possible.

hi. I just got an alert that wiki is down (1 night in spain), and it seems to have a severe problem, prohibiting me from doing sudo and restoring it. The people at infra-root who have backdoor access is not available on irc at the moment, so I hope they will notice during the next hours. I need th

Re: wiki.openoffice.org is down, and pam is not runing so sudo is not possible.

I am able to access it. On 3/27/13, janI wrote: > hi. > > I just got an alert that wiki is down (1 night in spain), and it seems to > have a severe problem, prohibiting me from doing sudo and restoring it. The > people at infra-root who have backdoor access is not available on irc at > the moment

Re: wiki.openoffice.org is down, and pam is not runing so sudo is not possible.

ah spoke too soon, it was the cache talking On 3/27/13, Alexandro Colorado wrote: > I am able to access it. > > On 3/27/13, janI wrote: >> hi. >> >> I just got an alert that wiki is down (1 night in spain), and it seems to >> have a severe problem, prohibiting me from doing sudo and restoring i

Re: questions about Base---do we need an embedded DB?

Kay Schenk wrote: On Wed, Mar 27, 2013 at 11:01 AM, Donald Whytock wrote: Just tossing this out...It seems Apache Derby is the one SQL-based DBMS in the Foundation. It's actively maintained, and, while it's written in Java, it still works in a client/server model and is therefore probably lau

Re: wiki.openoffice.org is down, and pam is not runing so sudo is not possible.

Online again. somehow fs decided to go r/o, which caused mysql and pam to stop, requiring the knife method for reboot. After reboot part of the config was lost (raw devices), which I created again. Infra politely reminded me, that there are - 91 packages that can be updated and some securit

Re: How to get mimetype at first position in the zip-container?

thanks for the update on this On 03/27/2013 06:35 PM, Regina Henschel wrote: Hi all, OK, I found a solution: I first generate a zip-container with the command line version of 7z, which contains only the file mimetype. The command line version of 7z can do this without compressing the fi

RE: questions about Base---do we need an embedded DB?

I share Regina's concern for the use in teaching and for casual database purposes. I'm not so sure how much SQL is a determining factor. I also sympathize with not wanting a required Java dependency, especially for a built-in component of the suite. However, the cooperation offered by the H

Re: questions about Base---do we need an embedded DB?

On 03/27/2013 04:57 PM, Kay Schenk wrote: Well Derby does seem to be "embed-able ". See: http://db.apache.org/derby/papers/DerbyTut/embedded_intro.html This has been suggested before, as early as 2006. See: http://markmail.org/message/kp5n2d5yzhprgpjm Still, is any embedded DB a good thing?

Re: add a feature to the document processor

Hi Don, What's feature that you want to dev? Could you please provide more detail description about your feature?Any related issue opened in https://issues.apache.org/ooo/? On Wed, Mar 27, 2013 at 9:47 PM, Don Chase wrote: > may I? > > Thanks... > > > Don > > -- > Don Chase > CEO & Creative Dir

Re: wiki.openoffice.org is down, and pam is not runing so sudo is not possible.

On 3/28/13 3:37 AM, janI wrote: > Online again. thanks for taking care of it > > somehow fs decided to go r/o, which caused mysql and pam to stop, requiring > the knife method for reboot. After reboot part of the config was lost (raw > devices), which I created again. > > Infra politely remind