Re: Pax not Pox

2013-01-21 Thread Xuacu
Hi! As a person working in both sides (and feeling part of both communities), I couldn't agree more. Our approach is to tell our users «Hey, we are translating a lot of free software. Try it and see what fits your needs better... It's free!» All the best -- Xuacu 2013/1/21 Louis Suárez-Potts : >

Re: Draft blog post: Call for Development Volunteers

2013-01-21 Thread Rob Weir
On Sun, Jan 20, 2013 at 10:52 PM, Fan Zheng wrote: > Hi, Rob: > > I have to say that, the pictures you picked up every time, is pretty > impressive! And everything looks great. > Thanks. There are a lot of photos on Flickr that are in the public domain, a collection they call 'The Flickr Commons

Re: What to do with confirmed bugs?

2013-01-21 Thread Herbert Duerr
On 18.01.2013 22:47, Regina Henschel wrote: Rob Weir schrieb: [...] Also, are we still using/looking at votes on bugs? Was that an effective way of prioritizing? It was the only way for users to get a little bit influence on the decision, which feature will be implemented and what changes wil

Re: Draft blog post: Call for Development Volunteers

2013-01-21 Thread Ian C
On Mon, Jan 21, 2013 at 8:51 PM, Rob Weir wrote: > On Sun, Jan 20, 2013 at 10:52 PM, Fan Zheng wrote: >> Hi, Rob: >> >> I have to say that, the pictures you picked up every time, is pretty >> impressive! And everything looks great. >> > > Thanks. There are a lot of photos on Flickr that are in t

Some development ideas

2013-01-21 Thread Pedro Giffuni
Hi; I am having fun with other areas of AOO so I don't have time to try this but here are some ideas in case someone wants to do further work there: 1) Update libxslt: xslt is really important in OpenOffice and libxslt 1.1.28 works just fine. 2) Enable building the boost component in python. W

Re:Re: Re: Re: build problem

2013-01-21 Thread 2
Fan Zheng, I'm so sorry for missing your reply because of my job. I have finished the building with your help. Thank you! Yi At 2013-01-11 15:07:44,"Fan Zheng" wrote: >Seems your cygwin did not to be allow to use system api to create process. >Did you use some kind of anti-virus applic

Re: Some development ideas

2013-01-21 Thread Rob Weir
On Mon, Jan 21, 2013 at 9:49 AM, Pedro Giffuni wrote: > Hi; > > I am having fun with other areas of AOO so I don't have time to try this but > here > are some ideas in case someone wants to do further work there: > > 1) Update libxslt: xslt is really important in OpenOffice and libxslt 1.1.28 >

Re: Some development ideas

2013-01-21 Thread Pedro Giffuni
Hi; - Messaggio originale - > Da: Rob Weir  >> >> 4) Replace rtl::math::random with the random nuber generator in APR. We >> have a random number generator in SAL that we use for bookmarks in >> documents and to seed the PRNG. APR has a crypto grade number generator >> that could be u

Re: Assigning Issues to the issues List?

2013-01-21 Thread Oliver-Rainer Wittmann
Hi, Am 18.01.2013 um 23:52 schrieb "Dennis E. Hamilton" : > I just noticed these changes on issues to clear out old bug assignees. I > recall a bunch of mystery e-mails being used and now I see issues@ > openoffice.apache.org. > > That's odd, since that is a mailing list. It is the mailing

Re: Error (maybe) installing yesterdays daily build

2013-01-21 Thread Oliver-Rainer Wittmann
Hi, Am 19.01.2013 um 16:07 schrieb Ariel Constenla-Haile : > On Tue, Jan 15, 2013 at 09:15:24AM +0100, Oliver-Rainer Wittmann wrote: >>> So the main files went in fine, with the new directory names under /opt >>> The desktop integration however gave these error messages: >>> dpkg: regarding apach

Re: Symphony code in AOO 4.0

2013-01-21 Thread Rob Weir
On Sun, Jan 20, 2013 at 9:19 PM, Rob Weir wrote: > On Sun, Jan 20, 2013 at 9:14 PM, F C. Costero wrote: >> On 1/20/2013 2:48 PM, Rob Weir wrote: >>> >>> On Sun, Jan 20, 2013 at 1:30 PM, Kay Schenk wrote: On Sun, Jan 20, 2013 at 7:15 AM, Andrea Pescettiwrote: > Rob Weir wr

RE: Assigning Issues to the issues List?

2013-01-21 Thread Dennis E. Hamilton
My impression is that addition of issues@ o.a.o to the CC list is automatic. But maybe that is only for new issues since the move to Apache bugzilla. In that case, it makes sense to clean up old ones that way. - Dennis -Original Message- From: Oliver-Rainer Wittmann [mailto:orwittm..

Merging Lotus Symphony: Allegro moderato

2013-01-21 Thread Rob Weir
Our latest blog post: https://blogs.apache.org/OOo/entry/merging_lotus_symphony_allegro_moderato I've posted on our Facebook and Google+ pages, and once via Twitter: https://www.facebook.com/ApacheOO/posts/121057218069097 https://plus.google.com/u/0/114598373874764163668/posts/ipZVtpwoRBZ https

Re: In case you missed it: The OpenOffice Wikipedia page was FUD'ed over the holidays

2013-01-21 Thread Donald Whytock
Wikipedia has a lot of policy documents that are typically used to object to an article or a piece thereof. This comes out largely as finger-pointing with a laser sight, but it lends legitimacy to an argument. Regarding conflicts of interest: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:Plain_and_simp

Re: Assigning Issues to the issues List?

2013-01-21 Thread Rob Weir
On Mon, Jan 21, 2013 at 12:03 PM, Dennis E. Hamilton wrote: > My impression is that addition of issues@ o.a.o to the CC list is automatic. > But maybe that is only for new issues since the move to Apache bugzilla. In > that case, it makes sense to clean up old ones that way. > Exactly. Every

Enabling "QA Contact" field in Bugzilla?

2013-01-21 Thread Rob Weir
Any objections to enabling the "useqacontact" field in Bugzilla? Per the BZ doc: "This allows you to define an email address for each component, in addition to that of the default owner, who will be sent carbon copies of incoming bugs." I think this would be useful, so then we can divvy up bug r

Re: OpenOffice thin client edition - why not?

2013-01-21 Thread Donald Whytock
Thanks to the Apache OpenOffice Wikipedia article, I see there's OpenOffice Anywhere (http://www.ooanywhere.com/) that claims to provide browser access to OpenOffice 3. OpenOffice Anywhere charges a fee for this service. Given Google Docs is free, and AOO is free, I have doubts about the long-ter

Re: In case you missed it: The OpenOffice Wikipedia page was FUD'ed over the holidays

2013-01-21 Thread Rob Weir
On Mon, Jan 21, 2013 at 12:06 PM, Donald Whytock wrote: > Wikipedia has a lot of policy documents that are typically used to > object to an article or a piece thereof. This comes out largely as > finger-pointing with a laser sight, but it lends legitimacy to an > argument. > > Regarding conflicts

How to make money with Apache OpenOffice (proposed blog post)

2013-01-21 Thread Rob Weir
I'm wondering if anyone would be offended or object with a blog post along the lines of "How to make money with Apache OpenOffice"? I appreciate that Apache is a non-profit and that we do not pay for developers, etc. But we are also commercially friendly, and our permissive license and focus on c

Re: Enabling "QA Contact" field in Bugzilla?

2013-01-21 Thread Kay Schenk
On 01/21/2013 09:16 AM, Rob Weir wrote: Any objections to enabling the "useqacontact" field in Bugzilla? go for it! Per the BZ doc: "This allows you to define an email address for each component, in addition to that of the default owner, who will be sent carbon copies of incoming bugs."

Re: How to make money with Apache OpenOffice (proposed blog post)

2013-01-21 Thread janI
On 21 January 2013 19:36, Rob Weir wrote: > I'm wondering if anyone would be offended or object with a blog post > along the lines of "How to make money with Apache OpenOffice"? > > I appreciate that Apache is a non-profit and that we do not pay for > developers, etc. But we are also commerciall

What rights are given in an SGA

2013-01-21 Thread Rob Weir
Since this has come up recently, I'd like to point you all to a recent thread on the legal-discuss list: http://mail-archives.apache.org/mod_mbox/www-legal-discuss/201301.mbox/browser If you are not familiar with the SGA form, you can see it here: http://www.apache.org/licenses/cla-corporate.txt

Re: How to make money with Apache OpenOffice (proposed blog post)

2013-01-21 Thread Rob Weir
On Mon, Jan 21, 2013 at 1:52 PM, janI wrote: > On 21 January 2013 19:36, Rob Weir wrote: > >> I'm wondering if anyone would be offended or object with a blog post >> along the lines of "How to make money with Apache OpenOffice"? >> >> I appreciate that Apache is a non-profit and that we do not pa

RE: How to make money with Apache OpenOffice (proposed blog post)

2013-01-21 Thread Dennis E. Hamilton
+1 although I don't know what MS Office 2003 end-of-life has to do with it, particularly. -Original Message- From: Rob Weir [mailto:robw...@apache.org] Sent: Monday, January 21, 2013 10:36 To: dev@openoffice.apache.org Subject: How to make money with Apache OpenOffice (proposed blog po

RE: Enabling "QA Contact" field in Bugzilla?

2013-01-21 Thread Dennis E. Hamilton
+1 -Original Message- From: Rob Weir [mailto:robw...@apache.org] Sent: Monday, January 21, 2013 09:17 To: dev@openoffice.apache.org; q...@openoffice.apache.org Subject: Enabling "QA Contact" field in Bugzilla? Any objections to enabling the "useqacontact" field in Bugzilla? Per the BZ d

Open Office CD

2013-01-21 Thread Jfdills
Hello I live in a area where the only internet I can get is dial up and everytime I try to download Open Office i get kicked offline and have to start all over again so I was wondering if you have Open Office in CD form. Thank you for your time. Joe Dills

Re: How to make money with Apache OpenOffice (proposed blog post)

2013-01-21 Thread Rob Weir
On Mon, Jan 21, 2013 at 2:32 PM, Dennis E. Hamilton wrote: > +1 although I don't know what MS Office 2003 end-of-life has to do with it, > particularly. > It is something we're seeing. Organizations who purchased licenses for Office 2003, and see support ending in April 2014. They are starting

Re: How to make money with Apache OpenOffice (proposed blog post)

2013-01-21 Thread janI
On 21 January 2013 20:10, Rob Weir wrote: > On Mon, Jan 21, 2013 at 1:52 PM, janI wrote: > > On 21 January 2013 19:36, Rob Weir wrote: > > > >> I'm wondering if anyone would be offended or object with a blog post > >> along the lines of "How to make money with Apache OpenOffice"? > >> > >> I ap

Re: In case you missed it: The OpenOffice Wikipedia page was FUD'ed over the holidays

2013-01-21 Thread Louis Suárez-Potts
Don Thanks Inline... Donald Whytock wrote: > Wikipedia has a lot of policy documents that are typically used to > object to an article or a piece thereof. This comes out largely as > finger-pointing with a laser sight, but it lends legitimacy to an > argument. > > Regarding conflicts of interes

Re: In case you missed it: The OpenOffice Wikipedia page was FUD'ed over the holidays

2013-01-21 Thread Rob Weir
On Mon, Jan 21, 2013 at 3:40 PM, Louis Suárez-Potts wrote: > Don > Thanks > Inline... > > > Donald Whytock wrote: >> Wikipedia has a lot of policy documents that are typically used to >> object to an article or a piece thereof. This comes out largely as >> finger-pointing with a laser sight, but

OpenOffice on Wikipedia (was: In case you missed it: The OpenOffice Wikipedia page was FUD'ed over the holidays)

2013-01-21 Thread David Gerard
Rob Weir wrote: >Take a look at the lovely new page: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/OpenOffice >Some choice bits of distortion: Thanks for publicising this. I really did mean I wanted more eyes on it. Useful pages in dealing with contentious topics (which is everything): https://en.wikipedia.o

fyi don't know if yr aware of this

2013-01-21 Thread Jem Brand
someone selling yr software on ebay http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/Office-2003-Office-2007-Office-2010-Fully-Microsoft-Compatible-/190785564791?pt=UK_Computing_Other_Computing_Networking&hash=item2c6bb4b077

[www] How do I create wikibooks programmatically?

2013-01-21 Thread Stuart
Hello group, I found the following page: http://wiki.openoffice.org/wiki/Documentation/DevGuide/FirstSteps/First_Steps According to the Discussion section of this site, it should be possible to let MediaWiki create a new book by clicking "Load this book as your current book" in the toolbar o

Re: CD's available?

2013-01-21 Thread Kay Schenk
On 01/19/2013 06:38 PM, carole...@aol.com wrote: We have limited internet access and wonder if the programs are still available on CD. Thank you. Carol Conkey Hi Carol -- Apache OpenOffice 3.4.x is not available directly from the project on CD. However, if you use your favorite interne

Re: CD's available?

2013-01-21 Thread Kay Schenk
@Steve, Saransh Carol's message was moderated, as s/he is not a list member. Please contact Carol directly if you wish. On 01/19/2013 10:32 PM, Steve Hawkins Sr wrote: which programs... i could burn some for you for just my time and material.. which is legal for open office

Re: CD's available?

2013-01-21 Thread Rob Weir
On Sat, Jan 19, 2013 at 9:38 PM, wrote: > > We have limited internet access and wonder if the programs are still > available on CD. > Hi Carol, What country are you in? -Rob > Thank you. > > Carol Conkey

Extension Site down?

2013-01-21 Thread Raphael Bircher
Hi at all Is the Extension site down for maintenance or is there an other problem? Greetings Raphael

Re: What rights are given in an SGA

2013-01-21 Thread Kay Schenk
On 01/21/2013 10:59 AM, Rob Weir wrote: Since this has come up recently, I'd like to point you all to a recent thread on the legal-discuss list: http://mail-archives.apache.org/mod_mbox/www-legal-discuss/201301.mbox/browser If you are not familiar with the SGA form, you can see it here: http

Re: fyi don't know if yr aware of this

2013-01-21 Thread Steve Hawkins Sr
my understanding is that it is legal to sell open source software if the charge is for shipping and handling and a small fee for duplicating as u can tell the fee is VERY small On Mon, Jan 21, 2013 at 5:49 PM, Jem Brand wrote: > > someone selling yr software on ebay > > http://www.ebay.

Re: fyi don't know if yr aware of this

2013-01-21 Thread Stan Helton
I'm unfamiliar with UK postage rates, but 99 cents seems within reason for a CD/DVD. On the other hand, this one seems a bit overpriced ($4.95): http://www.ebay.com/itm/NEWEST-APACHE-OPEN-OFFICE-3-4-MASTER-INSTALL-DVD-LINUX-MAC-WINDOWS-BONUS-CD-/370639582458 FYI -- At today's exchange rates t

Re: Extension Site down?

2013-01-21 Thread Rob Weir
Be sure to copy Roberto on things like this. -Rob On Mon, Jan 21, 2013 at 6:19 PM, Raphael Bircher wrote: > Hi at all > > Is the Extension site down for maintenance or is there an other problem? > > Greetings Raphael

Re: fyi don't know if yr aware of this

2013-01-21 Thread Rob Weir
On Mon, Jan 21, 2013 at 7:05 PM, Stan Helton wrote: > I'm unfamiliar with UK postage rates, but 99 cents seems within reason for a > CD/DVD. On the other hand, this one seems a bit overpriced ($4.95): > http://www.ebay.com/itm/NEWEST-APACHE-OPEN-OFFICE-3-4-MASTER-INSTALL-DVD-LINUX-MAC-WINDOWS-BON

Re: fyi don't know if yr aware of this

2013-01-21 Thread Steve Hawkins Sr
sounds like a deal to me... 5 including shipping is not worth my time On Mon, Jan 21, 2013 at 7:05 PM, Stan Helton wrote: > I'm unfamiliar with UK postage rates, but 99 cents seems within reason for > a CD/DVD. On the other hand, this one seems a bit overpriced ($4.95): > http://www.ebay.c

Re: What rights are given in an SGA

2013-01-21 Thread Dave Fisher
On Jan 21, 2013, at 10:59 AM, Rob Weir wrote: > Since this has come up recently, I'd like to point you all to a recent > thread on the legal-discuss list: > > http://mail-archives.apache.org/mod_mbox/www-legal-discuss/201301.mbox/browser > > If you are not familiar with the SGA form, you can se

Re: What rights are given in an SGA

2013-01-21 Thread Rob Weir
On Mon, Jan 21, 2013 at 8:10 PM, Dave Fisher wrote: > > On Jan 21, 2013, at 10:59 AM, Rob Weir wrote: > >> Since this has come up recently, I'd like to point you all to a recent >> thread on the legal-discuss list: >> >> http://mail-archives.apache.org/mod_mbox/www-legal-discuss/201301.mbox/browse

Re: What rights are given in an SGA

2013-01-21 Thread Rob Weir
On Mon, Jan 21, 2013 at 8:36 PM, Rob Weir wrote: > On Mon, Jan 21, 2013 at 8:10 PM, Dave Fisher wrote: >> >> On Jan 21, 2013, at 10:59 AM, Rob Weir wrote: >> >>> Since this has come up recently, I'd like to point you all to a recent >>> thread on the legal-discuss list: >>> >>> http://mail-archiv

Re: fyi don't know if yr aware of this

2013-01-21 Thread Fan Zheng
I have visit the link just now. And as I considered, many many positive feedbacks, but with no bidding:) personally I would thank the person who selling the AOO on EBAY, which give an opertunity for us on promotion.

Re: CD's available?

2013-01-21 Thread Fan Zheng
2013/1/22 Rob Weir > On Sat, Jan 19, 2013 at 9:38 PM, wrote: > > > > We have limited internet access and wonder if the programs are still > available on CD. > > > > Hi Carol, > > What country are you in? > Let me guess, he/she maybe in North America, for the person is using the email box from

Re: Re: Re: Re: build problem

2013-01-21 Thread Fan Zheng
Welcome! 2013/1/21 2 > Fan Zheng, > I'm so sorry for missing your reply because of my job. I have > finished the building with your help. > Thank you! > > Yi > At 2013-01-11 15:07:44,"Fan Zheng" wrote: > >Seems your cygwin did not to be allow to use system api to create process. > >Did

Idea for distributing AOO on CD's

2013-01-21 Thread Rob Weir
Just an idea. There are many out there who want AOO on CD, but cannot download it. And there are some selling AOO or OOo, but not always the latest versions. And we have no ability as a project to create and mail CD's. So one thing that any individual or group of individuals could do, that woul

Re: What rights are given in an SGA

2013-01-21 Thread Dave Fisher
On Jan 21, 2013, at 5:48 PM, Rob Weir wrote: > On Mon, Jan 21, 2013 at 8:36 PM, Rob Weir wrote: >> On Mon, Jan 21, 2013 at 8:10 PM, Dave Fisher wrote: >>> >>> On Jan 21, 2013, at 10:59 AM, Rob Weir wrote: >>> Since this has come up recently, I'd like to point you all to a recent thr

Re: What rights are given in an SGA

2013-01-21 Thread Rob Weir
On Mon, Jan 21, 2013 at 9:18 PM, Dave Fisher wrote: > > On Jan 21, 2013, at 5:48 PM, Rob Weir wrote: > >> On Mon, Jan 21, 2013 at 8:36 PM, Rob Weir wrote: >>> On Mon, Jan 21, 2013 at 8:10 PM, Dave Fisher wrote: On Jan 21, 2013, at 10:59 AM, Rob Weir wrote: > Since this has com

Re: What rights are given in an SGA

2013-01-21 Thread Rob Weir
On Mon, Jan 21, 2013 at 9:40 PM, Rob Weir wrote: > On Mon, Jan 21, 2013 at 9:18 PM, Dave Fisher wrote: >> >> On Jan 21, 2013, at 5:48 PM, Rob Weir wrote: >> >>> On Mon, Jan 21, 2013 at 8:36 PM, Rob Weir wrote: On Mon, Jan 21, 2013 at 8:10 PM, Dave Fisher wrote: > > On Jan 21, 2013,

Re: OpenOffice on Wikipedia (was: In case you missed it: The OpenOffice Wikipedia page was FUD'ed over the holidays)

2013-01-21 Thread Louis Suárez-Potts
David Gerard wrote: > > Rob Weir wrote: > >> >> Take a look at the lovely new page: >> https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/OpenOffice >> Some choice bits of distortion: > > > > Thanks for publicising this. I really did mean I wanted more eyes on it. > > Useful pages in dealing with contentious topics (w

Re: fyi don't know if yr aware of this

2013-01-21 Thread Andrew Douglas Pitonyak
On 01/21/2013 07:05 PM, Stan Helton wrote: On the other hand, this one seems a bit overpriced ($4.95): http://www.ebay.com/itm/NEWEST-APACHE-OPEN-OFFICE-3-4-MASTER-INSTALL-DVD-LINUX-MAC-WINDOWS-BONUS-CD-/370639582458 Just posting a sale to ebay costs money. So, I figure they have the cost of

Re: What rights are given in an SGA

2013-01-21 Thread Dave Fisher
On Jan 21, 2013, at 6:49 PM, Rob Weir wrote: > On Mon, Jan 21, 2013 at 9:40 PM, Rob Weir wrote: >> On Mon, Jan 21, 2013 at 9:18 PM, Dave Fisher wrote: >>> >>> On Jan 21, 2013, at 5:48 PM, Rob Weir wrote: >>> On Mon, Jan 21, 2013 at 8:36 PM, Rob Weir wrote: > On Mon, Jan 21, 2013 at

Re: OpenOffice on Wikipedia (was: In case you missed it: The OpenOffice Wikipedia page was FUD'ed over the holidays)

2013-01-21 Thread Dave Fisher
On Jan 21, 2013, at 7:02 PM, Louis Suárez-Potts wrote: > David Gerard wrote: >> >> Rob Weir wrote: >> >>> >>> Take a look at the lovely new page: >>> https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/OpenOffice >>> Some choice bits of distortion: >> >> >> >> Thanks for publicising this. I really did mean I wa

Re: What rights are given in an SGA

2013-01-21 Thread Juergen Schmidt
Am Dienstag, 22. Januar 2013 um 04:41 schrieb Dave Fisher: > > On Jan 21, 2013, at 6:49 PM, Rob Weir wrote: > > > On Mon, Jan 21, 2013 at 9:40 PM, Rob Weir wrote: > > > On Mon, Jan 21, 2013 at 9:18 PM, Dave Fisher > > > wrote: > > > > > > > > On Jan 21, 2013, at 5:48 PM, Rob Weir wrote: >

Re: Extension Site down?

2013-01-21 Thread Andrea Pescetti
Rob Weir wrote: On Mon, Jan 21, 2013 at 6:19 PM, Raphael Bircher wrote: Is the Extension site down for maintenance or is there an other problem? Be sure to copy Roberto on things like this. As a temporary solution, I see that the site is actually online and working, but only reachable throug

RAT scans: Re: What rights are given in an SGA

2013-01-21 Thread Pedro Giffuni
Somewhat off-topic, ma non troppo ... It would be good to tun a RAT scan over the website. We have not done anything to clean the content licensewise and we probably carry copyleft content, including code, there! Pedro.