Re: OOXML documentation

2014-08-06 Thread Andrea Pescetti
On 24/07/2014 Peter Kelly wrote: https://wiki.openoffice.org/wiki/OOXML The new content is that linked to from the first section, currently limited to a description of the packaging format, extensibility features, and a brief introduction to WordProcessingML. This is just the beginning, and there

RE: OOXML

2014-08-04 Thread Dennis E. Hamilton
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Re: OOXML

2014-08-04 Thread Andrea Pescetti
Andrew Douglas Pitonyak wrote: On 08/03/2014 12:50 PM, Peter Kelly wrote: features that are supported in OOXML but not ODF, e.g. table styles. If AOO does not support Table Styles and a particular file format does not, the biggest problem is that you lose table styles when you load, edit, then

Re: OOXML

2014-08-04 Thread Peter Kelly
On 4 Aug 2014, at 12:16 am, jan i wrote: > By painfull experience, I found out that our internal (memory) structure is > a superset of mixed ODF and pre-odf items. I dont think you can have a pure > odf/OOXML memory structure, you need internal pointers as well (like > start/finish of copy buffer

Re: OOXML

2014-08-03 Thread Andrew Douglas Pitonyak
On 08/03/2014 12:50 PM, Peter Kelly wrote: On 3 Aug 2014, at 6:52 pm, Regina Henschel > wrote: The second option has the advantage that it would be easier to cater for features that are supported in OOXML but not ODF, e.g. table styles. However the first option

RE: OOXML

2014-08-03 Thread Dennis E. Hamilton
. Hamilton [mailto:dennis.hamil...@acm.org] Sent: Saturday, August 2, 2014 13:05 To: dev@openoffice.apache.org Subject: RE: OOXML [ ... ] There are some tricky cases, including - Changes that overlap/conflict with tracked changes but tracked changes are not updated/preserved properly - Accessibili

Re: OOXML

2014-08-03 Thread jan i
sed and requested for signed e-mail > > > > > -Original Message- > From: jan i [mailto:j...@apache.org] > Sent: Sunday, August 3, 2014 00:57 > To: dev; Dennis Hamilton > Subject: Re: OOXML > > On 2 August 2014 22:31, Dennis E. Hamilton > wrote: > > [ ... ]

RE: OOXML

2014-08-03 Thread Dennis E. Hamilton
org] Sent: Sunday, August 3, 2014 00:57 To: dev; Dennis Hamilton Subject: Re: OOXML On 2 August 2014 22:31, Dennis E. Hamilton wrote: > [ ... ] There is no strict minimum Conforming OpenDocument > Consumer. A consumer must not object to anything in the document file that > conforms to the O

Re: OOXML

2014-08-03 Thread jan i
On 3 August 2014 18:50, Peter Kelly wrote: > On 3 Aug 2014, at 6:52 pm, Regina Henschel > wrote: > > Peter Kelly schrieb: > > There's two ways to view a format: (1) as a way of encoding information > for storage or transmission, and (2) as an in-memory data structure used > by the editor at runt

Re: OOXML

2014-08-03 Thread Peter Kelly
On 3 Aug 2014, at 6:52 pm, Regina Henschel wrote: > Peter Kelly schrieb: >> There's two ways to view a format: (1) as a way of encoding information >> for storage or transmission, and (2) as an in-memory data structure used >> by the editor at runtime. In some programs these are two different >>

Change tracking & versioning (was Re: OOXML)

2014-08-03 Thread Peter Kelly
On 3 Aug 2014, at 3:05 am, Dennis E. Hamilton wrote: > In line with the sketch that Peter Kelley provides below, I am personally > very sympathetic to the idea of having an internal model that can tolerate > difference in format between input and output while preserving in the output > everyth

Re: OOXML

2014-08-03 Thread Regina Henschel
Hi Peter, Peter Kelly schrieb: On 3 Aug 2014, at 1:57 am, jan i mailto:j...@apache.org>> wrote: I too am on peter fast rolling waggon :-) but I am also confused. @peter maybe you could explain a couple of things, for non-document specialists: 1) Following your thought, with biderectional edi

Re: OOXML

2014-08-03 Thread Peter Kelly
On 3 Aug 2014, at 3:05 am, Dennis E. Hamilton wrote: > In line with the sketch that Peter Kelley provides below, I am personally > very sympathetic to the idea of having an internal model that can tolerate > difference in format between input and output while preserving in the output > everyth

Re: OOXML

2014-08-03 Thread Peter Kelly
On 3 Aug 2014, at 1:57 am, jan i wrote: > I too am on peter fast rolling waggon :-) but I am also confused. > > @peter maybe you could explain a couple of things, for non-document > specialists: > > 1) Following your thought, with biderectional editors. Why would a editor > have a home format ?

Re: OOXML

2014-08-03 Thread jan i
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Re: OOXML

2014-08-02 Thread Guy Waterval
+1 -- gw 2014-08-03 1:47 GMT+02:00 Andrew Douglas Pitonyak : > > I am often required to read and write DOCX files and I know others for > which this is a need. If I cannot accurately read / write DOCX files (or if > I suspect that it may not work correctly) then I use Word; I don't like it > wh

Re: OOXML

2014-08-02 Thread Andrew Douglas Pitonyak
I am often required to read and write DOCX files and I know others for which this is a need. If I cannot accurately read / write DOCX files (or if I suspect that it may not work correctly) then I use Word; I don't like it when I have to use Word. On 08/02/2014 10:24 AM, Alexandro Colorado wr

RE: OOXML

2014-08-02 Thread Dennis E. Hamilton
-- From: jan i [mailto:j...@apache.org] Sent: Saturday, August 2, 2014 11:58 To: dev; Dennis Hamilton Subject: Re: OOXML On 2 August 2014 20:27, Dennis E. Hamilton wrote: > s below. > > > -Original Message- > From: jan i [mailto:j...@apache.org] > Sent: Saturday, Augu

RE: OOXML

2014-08-02 Thread Dennis E. Hamilton
X.509 certs used and requested for signed e-mail From: Peter Kelly [mailto:kelly...@gmail.com] Sent: Saturday, August 2, 2014 09:43 To: dev@openoffice.apache.org Subject: Re: OOXML On 2 Aug 2014, at 9:24 pm, Alexandro Colorado wrote: The Support that is done is to receieve OOXML not to pr

Re: OOXML

2014-08-02 Thread jan i
On 2 August 2014 20:27, Dennis E. Hamilton wrote: > s below. > > > -Original Message- > From: jan i [mailto:j...@apache.org] > Sent: Saturday, August 2, 2014 08:57 > To: dev > Subject: Re: OOXML > > On 2 August 2014 17:06, Louis Suárez-Potts wrote: >

RE: OOXML

2014-08-02 Thread Dennis E. Hamilton
s below. -Original Message- From: jan i [mailto:j...@apache.org] Sent: Saturday, August 2, 2014 08:57 To: dev Subject: Re: OOXML On 2 August 2014 17:06, Louis Suárez-Potts wrote: > > > On 2014-08-02, at 10:24, Alexandro Colorado wrote: > > > > The Support that i

Re: OOXML

2014-08-02 Thread Peter Kelly
On 2 Aug 2014, at 9:24 pm, Alexandro Colorado wrote: > The Support that is done is to receieve OOXML not to produce them, the > discussion issue would be to support legacy formats like .doc or .xls. > > I still dont see a point to generate OOXML and most people dont care > as long as they can se

Re: OOXML

2014-08-02 Thread jan i
On 2 August 2014 17:06, Louis Suárez-Potts wrote: > > > On 2014-08-02, at 10:24, Alexandro Colorado wrote: > > > > The Support that is done is to receieve OOXML not to produce them, the > > discussion issue would be to support legacy formats like .doc or .xls. > > > > I still dont see a point to

Re: OOXML

2014-08-02 Thread Louis Suárez-Potts
> On 2014-08-02, at 10:24, Alexandro Colorado wrote: > > The Support that is done is to receieve OOXML not to produce them, the > discussion issue would be to support legacy formats like .doc or .xls. > > I still dont see a point to generate OOXML and most people dont care > as long as they can

Re: OOXML

2014-08-02 Thread Alexandro Colorado
The Support that is done is to receieve OOXML not to produce them, the discussion issue would be to support legacy formats like .doc or .xls. I still dont see a point to generate OOXML and most people dont care as long as they can send in office native formats. I never heard someone saying, pleas

Re: OOXML

2014-08-02 Thread Peter Kelly
On 1 Aug 2014, at 2:42 pm, Rory O'Farrell wrote: > For information: > http://www.themukt.com/2014/07/31/never-use-microsofts-ooxml-format/ An interesting article. This brings to mind a few issues I've been thinking about for a while: - I think the rather extreme anti-OOXML stance that some tak

Re: OOXML documentation

2014-07-27 Thread jan i
On 24 July 2014 17:50, Peter Kelly wrote: > Hi, > > I've begun writing up some documentation on the OOXML file format on the > wiki: > > https://wiki.openoffice.org/wiki/OOXML > > The new content is that linked to from the first section, currently > limited to a description of the packaging forma

Re: OOXML documentation

2014-07-24 Thread Kay Schenk
On Thu, Jul 24, 2014 at 8:50 AM, Peter Kelly wrote: > Hi, > > I've begun writing up some documentation on the OOXML file format on the > wiki: > > https://wiki.openoffice.org/wiki/OOXML > > The new content is that linked to from the first section, currently > limited to a description of the packa

Re: OOXML support in AOO

2014-01-28 Thread Keith N. McKenna
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 Oliver-Rainer Wittmann wrote: > Hi, > > the OSBA OOXML improvement use case 4 - comments/annotations on text > ranges - had been addressed for AOO 4.1. > For further details have a look at the draft of the release notes for > next planned release. >

Re: OOXML support in AOO

2014-01-28 Thread Oliver-Rainer Wittmann
Hi, the OSBA OOXML improvement use case 4 - comments/annotations on text ranges - had been addressed for AOO 4.1. For further details have a look at the draft of the release notes for next planned release. Best regards, Oliver. On 27.01.2014 18:33, Jörg Schmidt wrote: Hello, How far are th