On 10/08/2016 Patricia Shanahan wrote:
On 8/9/2016 2:41 PM, Andrea Pescetti wrote:
Patricia Shanahan wrote:
How do we go about getting trained as release manager?
By making a release, or two.
If we only do two or three releases a year, we will only be able to
train release managers are a rate
> -Original Message-
> From: Patricia Shanahan [mailto:p...@acm.org]
> Sent: Sunday, August 14, 2016 16:28
> To: dev@openoffice.apache.org
> Subject: Re: Planning for emergency releases
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> On 8/12/2016 2:14 PM, Dennis E. Hamilton wrote:
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On 8/12/2016 2:14 PM, Dennis E. Hamilton wrote:
-Original Message- From: Patricia Shanahan
[mailto:p...@acm.org]
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Personally, I would like to treat the last stable release as the
base for emergency fixes. I started out suggesting using the
current patch as an exercise to work thro
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> From: Patricia Shanahan [mailto:p...@acm.org]
> Sent: Friday, August 12, 2016 13:55
> To: dev@openoffice.apache.org
> Subject: Re: Planning for emergency releases
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> On 8/12/2016 1:40 PM, Dennis E. Hamilton wrote:
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On 8/12/2016 1:40 PM, Dennis E. Hamilton wrote:
-Original Message- From: Patricia Shanahan
[mailto:p...@acm.org] Sent: Thursday, August 11, 2016 11:07 To:
dev@openoffice.apache.org Subject: Re: Planning for emergency
releases
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Meanwhile, it is interesting for contemplating a
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> Sent: Thursday, August 11, 2016 11:07
> To: dev@openoffice.apache.org
> Subject: Re: Planning for emergency releases
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> Meanwhile, it is interesting for contemplating a ready-to-rele
On 8/11/2016 10:45 AM, Marcus wrote:
Am 08/10/2016 12:25 AM, schrieb Patricia Shanahan:
On 8/9/2016 3:12 PM, Marcus wrote:
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we have a documented release process here [1]. Of course it's for a full
release. But for a bugfix (or emergency) release it can be derived and
then shortend.
[1]
http
Am 08/10/2016 12:25 AM, schrieb Patricia Shanahan:
On 8/9/2016 3:12 PM, Marcus wrote:
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we have a documented release process here [1]. Of course it's for a full
release. But for a bugfix (or emergency) release it can be derived and
then shortend.
[1]
https://cwiki.apache.org/confluence/displa
On 8/9/2016 3:12 PM, Marcus wrote:
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we have a documented release process here [1]. Of course it's for a full
release. But for a bugfix (or emergency) release it can be derived and
then shortend.
[1]
https://cwiki.apache.org/confluence/display/OOOUSERS/Release+Planning+Template
That is the d
Am 08/09/2016 11:07 PM, schrieb Patricia Shanahan:
On 8/9/2016 8:52 AM, Kay sch...@apache.org wrote:
On 08/08/2016 09:26 PM, Patricia Shanahan wrote:
On 8/8/2016 11:14 AM, Marcus wrote:
Am 08/08/2016 07:28 PM, schrieb Andrea Pescetti:
On 07/08/2016 Marcus wrote:
Maybe we are not that far
On 8/9/2016 2:41 PM, Andrea Pescetti wrote:
Patricia Shanahan wrote:
How do we go about getting trained as release manager?
By making a release, or two.
If we only do two or three releases a year, we will only be able to
train release managers are a rate of about two a year. Is that fast
eno
Patricia Shanahan wrote:
How do we go about getting trained as release manager?
By making a release, or two.
Documenting the process in more detail?
You can see the whole process documented everywhere (ASF pages and CWiki
for the 4.1.2 release), but it's a matter of tooling at this stage m
On 8/9/2016 8:52 AM, Kay sch...@apache.org wrote:
On 08/08/2016 09:26 PM, Patricia Shanahan wrote:
On 8/8/2016 11:14 AM, Marcus wrote:
Am 08/08/2016 07:28 PM, schrieb Andrea Pescetti:
On 07/08/2016 Marcus wrote:
Maybe we are not that far aways from each other. What I want to to
avoid
is t
On 08/08/2016 09:26 PM, Patricia Shanahan wrote:
> On 8/8/2016 11:14 AM, Marcus wrote:
>> Am 08/08/2016 07:28 PM, schrieb Andrea Pescetti:
>>> On 07/08/2016 Marcus wrote:
Maybe we are not that far aways from each other. What I want to to
avoid
is to provide hundreads of MBs for a s
> -Original Message-
> From: Patricia Shanahan [mailto:p...@acm.org]
> Sent: Monday, August 8, 2016 21:26
> To: dev@openoffice.apache.org
> Subject: Re: Planning for emergency releases
>
> On 8/8/2016 11:14 AM, Marcus wrote:
> > Am 08/08/2016 07:28 PM, schri
On 8/8/2016 11:14 AM, Marcus wrote:
Am 08/08/2016 07:28 PM, schrieb Andrea Pescetti:
On 07/08/2016 Marcus wrote:
Maybe we are not that far aways from each other. What I want to to avoid
is to provide hundreads of MBs for a single fix. Of course we can do a
4.1.3 with some collected fixes. As I
+1 on the permanent "ready to release" mode.
> -Original Message-
> From: Marcus [mailto:marcus.m...@wtnet.de]
> Sent: Monday, August 8, 2016 11:15
> To: dev@openoffice.apache.org
> Subject: Re: Planning for emergency releases
>
> Am 08/08/2016 07:28 PM,
Am 08/08/2016 07:28 PM, schrieb Andrea Pescetti:
On 07/08/2016 Marcus wrote:
Maybe we are not that far aways from each other. What I want to to avoid
is to provide hundreads of MBs for a single fix. Of course we can do a
4.1.3 with some collected fixes. As I don't know what is coming in the
futu
On 07/08/2016 Marcus wrote:
Maybe we are not that far aways from each other. What I want to to avoid
is to provide hundreads of MBs for a single fix. Of course we can do a
4.1.3 with some collected fixes. As I don't know what is coming in the
future I would not love to see another 4.1.4, 4.1.5, 4
Am 08/07/2016 07:38 PM, schrieb Dennis E. Hamilton:
-Original Message-
From: Marcus [mailto:marcus.m...@wtnet.de]
Sent: Sunday, August 7, 2016 10:16
To: dev@openoffice.apache.org
Subject: Re: Planning for emergency releases
Am 08/07/2016 06:14 PM, schrieb Patricia Shanahan:
On 8/7
On 8/7/2016 10:16 AM, Marcus wrote:
Am 08/07/2016 06:14 PM, schrieb Patricia Shanahan:
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but meanwhile work on getting competent at preparing a full release
promptly if needed.
Maybe we are not that far aways from each other. What I want to to avoid
is to provide hundreads of MBs for a sing
> -Original Message-
> From: Marcus [mailto:marcus.m...@wtnet.de]
> Sent: Sunday, August 7, 2016 10:16
> To: dev@openoffice.apache.org
> Subject: Re: Planning for emergency releases
>
> Am 08/07/2016 06:14 PM, schrieb Patricia Shanahan:
> >
> >
Am 08/07/2016 06:19 PM, schrieb Patricia Shanahan:
On 8/7/2016 8:29 AM, Marcus wrote:
Am 08/06/2016 12:57 AM, schrieb Patricia Shanahan:
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I don't agree with the car analogy - bits are relatively cheap, and I
will personally promise to recycle any obsoleted bits that are returned
to us, wi
Am 08/07/2016 06:14 PM, schrieb Patricia Shanahan:
On 8/7/2016 8:29 AM, Marcus wrote:
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I don't want to have it perfect. And we are already in this emergency
situation. We have either a patch process nor a full-release process.
We don't have what I consider to be the full emergency, a live
On 8/7/2016 8:29 AM, Marcus wrote:
Am 08/06/2016 12:57 AM, schrieb Patricia Shanahan:
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I don't agree with the car analogy - bits are relatively cheap, and I
will personally promise to recycle any obsoleted bits that are returned
to us, without taking up any landfill space. I would not do t
On 8/7/2016 8:29 AM, Marcus wrote:
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I don't want to have it perfect. And we are already in this emergency
situation. We have either a patch process nor a full-release process.
We don't have what I consider to be the full emergency, a live exploit
in the field.
Why not both strategies? Go a
Am 08/06/2016 12:57 AM, schrieb Patricia Shanahan:
On 8/5/2016 2:20 PM, Marcus wrote:
Am 08/05/2016 10:43 PM, schrieb Patricia Shanahan:
This is mainly a summary of opinions I've already expressed on
security@. The discussion does not actually involve anything that needs
to be confidential, so
Am 08/06/2016 02:41 AM, schrieb Dennis E. Hamilton:
-Original Message-
From: Marcus [mailto:marcus.m...@wtnet.de]
Sent: Friday, August 5, 2016 14:21
To: dev@openoffice.apache.org
Subject: Re: Planning for emergency releases
Am 08/05/2016 10:43 PM, schrieb Patricia Shanahan:
This is
Am 08/05/2016 11:59 PM, schrieb Dave Fisher:
Until AOO can provide a simple auto-update that includes patches then from a
user perspective Patricia is completely correct.
I don't believe that this can be the only agrument to provide a
full-blown release. ;-)
Marcus
On Aug 5, 2016, at 2:
> -Original Message-
> From: Marcus [mailto:marcus.m...@wtnet.de]
> Sent: Friday, August 5, 2016 14:21
> To: dev@openoffice.apache.org
> Subject: Re: Planning for emergency releases
>
> Am 08/05/2016 10:43 PM, schrieb Patricia Shanahan:
> > This is mainly
On 8/5/2016 2:20 PM, Marcus wrote:
Am 08/05/2016 10:43 PM, schrieb Patricia Shanahan:
This is mainly a summary of opinions I've already expressed on
security@. The discussion does not actually involve anything that needs
to be confidential, so it should be taking place on dev@ instead.
This i
Hi Marcus,
Until AOO can provide a simple auto-update that includes patches then from a
user perspective Patricia is completely correct.
Regards,
Dave
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> On Aug 5, 2016, at 2:20 PM, Marcus wrote:
>
> Am 08/05/2016 10:43 PM, schrieb Patricia Shanahan:
>> This is mainly a su
Am 08/05/2016 10:43 PM, schrieb Patricia Shanahan:
This is mainly a summary of opinions I've already expressed on
security@. The discussion does not actually involve anything that needs
to be confidential, so it should be taking place on dev@ instead.
This is controversial - I expect replies dis
This is mainly a summary of opinions I've already expressed on
security@. The discussion does not actually involve anything that needs
to be confidential, so it should be taking place on dev@ instead.
This is controversial - I expect replies disagreeing with my views. The
point of this thread is
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