Re: Apache Code Relese (Was Re: Side-effects of removing (void))

2020-01-13 Thread Alan Carvalho de Assis
Hi Adam, I think once the workflow is complete we should froze the master and keep accepting patch into dev branch. This is my point of view, I don't know if we will implement it. Also we need to review all the committed patch to the master to create the Changelog/Release Notes. This should be th

Re: Apache Code Relese (Was Re: Side-effects of removing (void))

2020-01-13 Thread Abdelatif Guettouche
> What needs to be done to move closer to release? We still don't have a release process in place. We still haven't completed our workflow actually. It was expected to miss one release cycle, but we should've at least completed the requirements by now. It's not reasonable to consider an Apache re

Re: Apache Code Relese (Was Re: Side-effects of removing (void))

2020-01-13 Thread Haitao Liu
Sorry late to reply here. I'm now working on Apache NuttX nightly build CI setup. According to Greg's testbuild information provided, now I'm preparing some CI scripts under https://github.com/liuguo09/nuttx_testing to work with apache jenkins. Once done and pass tests, I'll make pull request to a

Re: Apache Code Relese (Was Re: Side-effects of removing (void))

2020-01-13 Thread Gregory Nutt
I think once the workflow is complete we should froze the master and keep accepting patch into dev branch. This is my point of view, I don't know if we will implement it. I think we should create a release branch and freeze nothing. Versioning will need to extend to 3 numbers, so the next wo

Re: Apache Code Relese (Was Re: Side-effects of removing (void))

2020-01-13 Thread Gregory Nutt
It was expected to miss one release cycle, but we should've at least completed the requirements by now. Yes, I am not surprised that we are missing the mid-January release.  But when will be do the release?  I had been releasing code every two months, with is already a long release cycle. 

Re: Apache Code Relese (Was Re: Side-effects of removing (void))

2020-01-13 Thread David S. Alessio
> On Jan 13, 2020, at 5:14 AM, Gregory Nutt wrote: > > >> I think once the workflow is complete we should froze the master and >> keep accepting patch into dev branch. This is my point of view, I >> don't know if we will implement it. > > I think we should create a release branch and freeze

Re: Apache Code Relese (Was Re: Side-effects of removing (void))

2020-01-13 Thread Nathan Hartman
On Mon, Jan 13, 2020 at 2:12 PM David S. Alessio wrote: > > > > On Jan 13, 2020, at 5:14 AM, Gregory Nutt wrote: > > > > > >> I think once the workflow is complete we should froze the master and > >> keep accepting patch into dev branch. This is my point of view, I > >> don't know if we will imp

Re: Apache Code Relese (Was Re: Side-effects of removing (void))

2020-01-13 Thread Gregory Nutt
The person that does the work should have the biggest vote.  We have a problem with too many Chiefs and not enough Indians now.  Guidelines and advice are great.  Doing the job is greater. On 1/13/2020 1:35 PM, Nathan Hartman wrote: On Mon, Jan 13, 2020 at 2:12 PM David S. Alessio wrote:

Re: Apache Code Relese (Was Re: Side-effects of removing (void))

2020-01-13 Thread David S. Alessio
> On Jan 13, 2020, at 11:35 AM, Nathan Hartman wrote: > > On Mon, Jan 13, 2020 at 2:12 PM David S. Alessio > wrote: > >> >> >>> On Jan 13, 2020, at 5:14 AM, Gregory Nutt wrote: >>> >>> I think once the workflow is complete we should froze the master and keep accepting patch in

Re: Apache Code Relese (Was Re: Side-effects of removing (void))

2020-01-13 Thread Justin Mclean
HI, > Sorry late to reply here. I'm now working on Apache NuttX nightly build CI > setup. According to Greg's testbuild information provided, > now I'm preparing some CI scripts under > https://github.com/liuguo09/nuttx_testing to work with apache jenkins. Why is this work being done outside of

Re: Apache Code Relese (Was Re: Side-effects of removing (void))

2020-01-13 Thread Gregory Nutt
Sorry late to reply here. I'm now working on Apache NuttX nightly build CI setup. According to Greg's testbuild information provided, now I'm preparing some CI scripts under https://github.com/liuguo09/nuttx_testing to work with apache jenkins. Why is this work being done outside of the ASF r

Re: Apache Code Relese (Was Re: Side-effects of removing (void))

2020-01-13 Thread Justin Mclean
Hi, > When should we do this first Apache release? How do we do this? Who is the > release manager? (hint: not me) Since the breakage is coming on a daily > basis, how/when can we get a stable enough system to even consider a release. Af far as an Apache release is concerned there is a set o

Re: Apache Code Relese (Was Re: Side-effects of removing (void))

2020-01-13 Thread Justin Mclean
Hi, > Isn't that just a local clone of a fork of > https://github.com/apache/incubator-nuttx-testing (which is currently empty > other and a README). There is nothing to indicate this, IMO it should be a fork or a branch. For example if you look at [1] you can see it a fork of an ASF repo. Th

Re: Apache Code Relese (Was Re: Side-effects of removing (void))

2020-01-13 Thread Gregory Nutt
Isn't that just a local clone of a fork of https://github.com/apache/incubator-nuttx-testing (which is currently empty other and a README). There is nothing to indicate this, IMO it should be a fork or a branch. Could be anything I suppose.  I created the incubator-nuttx-testing repositor

Re: Apache Code Relese (Was Re: Side-effects of removing (void))

2020-01-13 Thread David Alessio
Forgive me, I'm just returning from a much-needed holiday break with family and still trying to sort through 1400+ email msgs... To Greg's point: how is it that master is broken? How did we allow any merge that hadn't yet been checked (at least to compile, if not function)? It seems to me that so

Re: Apache Code Relese (Was Re: Side-effects of removing (void))

2020-01-13 Thread Nathan Hartman
On Mon, Jan 13, 2020 at 4:31 PM David Alessio wrote: > Forgive me, I'm just returning from a much-needed holiday break with family > and still trying to sort through 1400+ email msgs... Good luck with that! That's rough. More below: > To Greg's point: how is it that master is broken? How did

Re: Apache Code Relese (Was Re: Side-effects of removing (void))

2020-01-13 Thread Gregory Nutt
To Greg's point: how is it that master is broken? How did we allow any merge that hadn't yet been checked (at least to compile, if not function)? It seems to me that somewhere in our workflow discussion(s) we've put Descartes before the horse. We need help getting that workflow document finis

Re: Apache Code Relese (Was Re: Side-effects of removing (void))

2020-01-13 Thread David Alessio
On Mon, Jan 13, 2020 at 4:03 PM Nathan Hartman wrote: > On Mon, Jan 13, 2020 at 4:31 PM David Alessio > wrote: > > > Forgive me, I'm just returning from a much-needed holiday break with > family > > and still trying to sort through 1400+ email msgs... > > > Good luck with that! That's rough. Mor

Re: Apache Code Relese (Was Re: Side-effects of removing (void))

2020-01-13 Thread Gregory Nutt
We need help getting that workflow document finished. Would you be able to help with that? Yes, I'd very much like to. Nathan.. do you know how to give David access to Confluence? There is a sign-up button at the upper right of the page.  Is that all there is to it? https://cwikapache.or

Re: Apache Code Relese (Was Re: Side-effects of removing (void))

2020-01-13 Thread David Alessio
On Mon, Jan 13, 2020 at 4:24 PM Gregory Nutt wrote: > > >> To Greg's point: how is it that master is broken? How did we allow any > >> merge that hadn't yet been checked (at least to compile, if not > function)? > >> It seems to me that somewhere in our workflow discussion(s) we've > >> put Desc

Re: Apache Code Relese (Was Re: Side-effects of removing (void))

2020-01-13 Thread Gregory Nutt
The point I'd like to make, is that I'd much rather the whole world stop turning, nothing get merged into master until we sort out the process; rather than allow anything to break master. I'd like for us to adopt a philosophy that "Nothing is worse than breaking Master." Now, that's just me,

Re: Apache Code Relese (Was Re: Side-effects of removing (void))

2020-01-13 Thread Gregory Nutt
The point I'd like to make, is that I'd much rather the whole world stop turning, nothing get merged into master until we sort out the process; rather than allow anything to break master.  I'd like for us to adopt a philosophy that "Nothing is worse than breaking Master."  Now, that's just

Re: Apache Code Relese (Was Re: Side-effects of removing (void))

2020-01-13 Thread Gregory Nutt
Also, I think that the build was fixed late today.  I have verified most configurations.  I had to submit several PRs today for build problems, compile errors and new warnings, but I think we do, finally, have a clean build.  But I do need to re-verify everything from beginning to end tomorrow.

Re: Apache Code Relese (Was Re: Side-effects of removing (void))

2020-01-13 Thread Haitao Liu
Justin, As Greg says, it's really little out of sync : ( Before incubator-nuttx-testing repository initialized with master to fork, I did some prepare work in my own nuttx-testing project. Now I have forked apache/incubator-nuttx-testing, I'll switch to my own fork to do work and then make PR to wo

Re: Apache Code Relese (Was Re: Side-effects of removing (void))

2020-01-13 Thread Justin Mclean
Hi, > Haitao Liu is the person in charge of developing the automated workflow, but > we will start off simple. Why he may be doing the work it’s probably not correct from an ASF point of view to say he’s in charge. Any contributor should be able to come along and help out, make suggestion and

Re: Apache Code Relese (Was Re: Side-effects of removing (void))

2020-01-13 Thread Disruptive Solutions
Then you have the same situation where Nuttx came fromhaving Greg be that only person. The only difference is people had to see the 1400+ mails also reading this “signal”. So is this problem solved? Is there a “buddylist” where tasks are consolidated? Ben Verstuurd vanaf mijn iPhone > Op

Re: Apache Code Relese (Was Re: Side-effects of removing (void))

2020-01-13 Thread Masayuki Ishikawa
Hello Greg and all, >I think we should create a release branch and freeze nothing. Versioning >will need to extend to 3 numbers, so the next would be 8.4.0. Every Though I still can not catch up with all email, in my understanding the next version would be 8.3.0. Actually http://www.nuttx.org/D