Re: [VOTE] KIP-1081: Graduation Steps for KIPs

Hi Josep, If the level numbers are not to be used, then let's remove them from the KIP. (Also, I guess this is water under the bridge now, but I disagree that they were ever useful in the discussion; to me, they just added confusion) I also agree with Ismael that API stability should be up to

Re: [VOTE] KIP-1081: Graduation Steps for KIPs

Hi Ismael, Having levels instead of names helped us discuss the content of each level without entering the bike shedding of what name is better. Level numbers are not to be used and the KIP states so as well. During early stages of the DISCUSS thread we used the numbers effectively. Is it acceptab

Re: [VOTE] KIP-1081: Graduation Steps for KIPs

Additional feedback: 1. For "Preview", I don't think it has to be complete or api stable and it's definitely not ready for production. My take is that "preview" is close on all of those: roughly speaking no apis changes are planned, the system is robustly tested and the functionality is mostly the

Re: [VOTE] KIP-1081: Graduation Steps for KIPs

Hi all, I am coming late to this discussion, but I am a bit confused. We seem to talk about levels 1 to 4 (which I think are very opaque and unusual) and at some point we have names: "In Development", "Experimental", "Preview" and "Production Ready". What are we actually proposing? If the latter,

Re: [VOTE] KIP-1081: Graduation Steps for KIPs

do before > we want widespread use apart from people who are not interested in this > feature. I know there will be some of those keen to try it in 4.0. We'll > aim for "Preview" in 4.1. > > Thanks, > Andrew > ________________ > Fr

Re: [VOTE] KIP-1081: Graduation Steps for KIPs

_ From: Colin McCabe Sent: 07 November 2024 23:31 To: dev@kafka.apache.org Subject: Re: [VOTE] KIP-1081: Graduation Steps for KIPs Hi Josep, Continuing the discussion from the other thread: I'm still not 100% convinced that we need a distinction between "in

Re: [VOTE] KIP-1081: Graduation Steps for KIPs

Hi Josep, Continuing the discussion from the other thread: I'm still not 100% convinced that we need a distinction between "in development" and "experimental." In both cases, end-users can't make use of the feature. So why not condense them into one step? With regard to "preview", I think "use

[VOTE] KIP-1081: Graduation Steps for KIPs

Hi all, The discussion about graduation steps for KIPs has now stabilized and I'd like to start a vote for it. Here you can find the KIP: https://cwiki.apache.org/confluence/x/mYn9Eg Thanks, -- [image: Aiven] *Josep Prat* Open Source Engineering Director, *Aiven* josep.p..