Re: [VOTE] Add REST Server to Apache Kafka

2016-10-29 Thread Harsha Chintalapani
This Vote now closed. There is the majority who are not in favor of including the REST server. Thanks everyone for participating. Vote tally: +1 Votes: Harsha Chintalapani Parth Brahbhatt Ken Jackson Suresh Srinivas Jungtaek Lim Ali Akthar Haohui Mai Shekhar Tippu

Re: [VOTE] Add REST Server to Apache Kafka

2016-10-29 Thread Gwen Shapira
Oops. Sorry, didn't notice the 72h voting period has passed. You can disregard. Gwen On Sat, Oct 29, 2016 at 4:29 PM, Gwen Shapira wrote: > -1 > > Kafka's development model is a good fit for critical path and > well-established APIs. It doesn't work as well for add-ons that need to > rapidly ev

Re: [VOTE] Add REST Server to Apache Kafka

2016-10-29 Thread Gwen Shapira
-1 Kafka's development model is a good fit for critical path and well-established APIs. It doesn't work as well for add-ons that need to rapidly evolve. Merging communities with different development pace and models rarely ends well - I think the REST Proxy will benefit from being a separate proje

Re: [VOTE] Add REST Server to Apache Kafka

2016-10-27 Thread Roger Hoover
-1 I think a good set of HTTP APIs can simplify client implementations and allow for easier integration with Kafka as well as simpler ops/admin tools. Elasticsearch is a great example. However, I think it's too early to put this into the core. The existing Kafka REST proxies (that I know of) ar

Re: [VOTE] Add REST Server to Apache Kafka

2016-10-26 Thread Jaikiran Pai
-1. I would personally like Kafka core to be limited to the core aspects. I consider REST server like this more a tooling thing than a core aspect of Kafka and would like it to be outside of Kafka. -Jaikiran On Wednesday 26 October 2016 02:46 AM, Harsha Chintalapani wrote: Hi All,

Re: [VOTE] Add REST Server to Apache Kafka

2016-10-26 Thread Hugo Picado
-1 >From my experience, nothing good comes from merges similar to this one, as it has huge implications in terms of codebase maintenance, CD pipeline duration and stability as well as isolated testability. I don't see any particular worth benefit on having the REST server in the core repository as

Re: [VOTE] Add REST Server to Apache Kafka

2016-10-26 Thread Andrew Otto
-1 for http kafka client in core Although a read only management interface, perhaps via http, sounds kinda useful for things like health checks as mentioned. On Wed, Oct 26, 2016 at 2:00 PM, Zakee wrote: > -1 > > Thanks. > > On Oct 25, 2016, at 2:16 PM, Harsha Chintalapani > wrote: > > > > Hi

Re: [VOTE] Add REST Server to Apache Kafka

2016-10-26 Thread Zakee
-1 Thanks. > On Oct 25, 2016, at 2:16 PM, Harsha Chintalapani wrote: > > Hi All, > We are proposing to have a REST Server as part of Apache Kafka > to provide producer/consumer/admin APIs. We Strongly believe having > REST server functionality with Apache Kafka will help a lot of user

Re: [VOTE] Add REST Server to Apache Kafka

2016-10-26 Thread Guruditta Golani
: Re: [VOTE] Add REST Server to Apache Kafka +1 Thanks

Re: [VOTE] Add REST Server to Apache Kafka

2016-10-26 Thread Shekar Tippur
+1 Thanks

Re: [VOTE] Add REST Server to Apache Kafka

2016-10-26 Thread Dana Powers
-1 On Wed, Oct 26, 2016 at 9:23 AM, Shekar Tippur wrote: > +1 > > Thanks

Re: [VOTE] Add REST Server to Apache Kafka

2016-10-26 Thread Ofir Manor
-1 First, I think there was no technical discussion of the KIP details in the DISCUSS until now, just a binary yes/no. Real discussion just started with the excellent ten technical points from Ewen a few hours ago. Generally,I don't see how a standard REST makes sense for format-agnostic realtime s

Re: [VOTE] Add REST Server to Apache Kafka

2016-10-25 Thread Neha Narkhede
Harsha -- Thanks for clarifying but I had noticed that and still gave those suggestions. Calling a VOTE thread on a discussion when there are varied viewpoints is never something this community has resorted to. The optics of it force binary decision making when in reality there are several tradeof

Re: [VOTE] Add REST Server to Apache Kafka

2016-10-25 Thread Ewen Cheslack-Postava
Perhaps in the future we can use a [POLL] or similar? This confused a lot of folks because they thought a VOTE was being called on KIP-80 when it wasn't. (Even if we say shame on them for not reading the body in full, the title caught me as well.) -Ewen On Tue, Oct 25, 2016 at 7:11 PM, Harsha Chi

Re: [VOTE] Add REST Server to Apache Kafka

2016-10-25 Thread Harsha Chintalapani
Neha, As I stated in my earlier email, this is an interest check vote thread and, not a KIP vote thread, to gather input from users mailing list if there is any interest for REST server to be part of Kafka. Also, this has been noted in the discuss thread that we should make an interest vot

Re: [VOTE] Add REST Server to Apache Kafka

2016-10-25 Thread Harsha Ch
Neha, As I stated in my earlier email . This is an interest check vote thread and , not a KIP vote thread, to gather input from users mailing list if there is any interest for REST server to be part of Kafka. Also, this has been noted in the discuss thread that we should make a interest vo

Re: [VOTE] Add REST Server to Apache Kafka

2016-10-25 Thread Neha Narkhede
-1 Let me make an observation and then state my reasons. First, I am a little surprised to see this vote thread as I think it is a bit premature. As a community, we've consistently invested in good communication. If there are differing opinions on a DISCUSS thread, we generally gather the communi

Re: [VOTE] Add REST Server to Apache Kafka

2016-10-25 Thread Matthias J. Sax
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA512 - -1 Kafka offers a protocol clients can implement, and REST server is only one of many clients. If we include REST, we need to include any other client, too, which seems not to be reasonable to me. - -Matthias On 10/25/16 5:29 PM, Haohui Mai wrot

Re: [VOTE] Add REST Server to Apache Kafka

2016-10-25 Thread Haohui Mai
+1 In my personal experience Kafka REST server is one of essential parts on building a reliable real-time pipeline. It's okay to keep the code reasonably separated from the core, but would appreciate to see some official supports for the REST servers from the Kafka community. Regards, Haohui On

Re: [VOTE] Add REST Server to Apache Kafka

2016-10-25 Thread Ismael Juma
-1 I think it's good to avoid adding non-essential items to the Apache Kafka project so that it can continue evolving at a fast pace. Since a REST server can be naturally implemented as an external project, I believe the disadvantages of including it outweigh the advantages. Ismael On Tue, Oct 2

Re: [VOTE] Add REST Server to Apache Kafka

2016-10-25 Thread Jun Rao
Sorry a typo. -1 instead. Thanks, Jun On Tue, Oct 25, 2016 at 4:24 PM, Jun Rao wrote: > +1 > > Thanks, > > Jun > > On Tue, Oct 25, 2016 at 2:16 PM, Harsha Chintalapani > wrote: > >> Hi All, >>We are proposing to have a REST Server as part of Apache Kafka >> to provide producer/co

Re: [VOTE] Add REST Server to Apache Kafka

2016-10-25 Thread Jun Rao
+1 Thanks, Jun On Tue, Oct 25, 2016 at 2:16 PM, Harsha Chintalapani wrote: > Hi All, >We are proposing to have a REST Server as part of Apache Kafka > to provide producer/consumer/admin APIs. We Strongly believe having > REST server functionality with Apache Kafka will help a lot

Re: [VOTE] Add REST Server to Apache Kafka

2016-10-25 Thread Ben Davison
+ 1 On Tue, Oct 25, 2016 at 10:16 PM, Harsha Chintalapani wrote: > Hi All, >We are proposing to have a REST Server as part of Apache Kafka > to provide producer/consumer/admin APIs. We Strongly believe having > REST server functionality with Apache Kafka will help a lot of users. >

Re: [VOTE] Add REST Server to Apache Kafka

2016-10-25 Thread Harsha Chintalapani
;> > of > >> > > > Apache Kafka under ASF governance model. This would be great for > >> the > >> > > > community instead of duplicated and splintered efforts that may > >> spring > >> > > up. > >> > > >

Re: [VOTE] Add REST Server to Apache Kafka

2016-10-25 Thread Jeff Widman
-1 As an end-user, while I like the idea in theory, in practice I don't think it's a good idea just yet. Certainly, it'd be useful, enabling things like https://github.com/Landoop/kafka-topics-ui to work without needing anything outside of Kafka core. But there are already enough things in the e

Re: [VOTE] Add REST Server to Apache Kafka

2016-10-25 Thread Sriram Subramanian
ctober 25, 2016 2:20 PM > Subject: [VOTE] Add REST Server to Apache Kafka > To: mailto:dev@kafka.apache.org>>, < > us...@kafka.apache.org<mailto:us...@kafka.apache.org>> > > > Hi All, >We are proposing to have a REST Server as part of Apache Kafka

Re: [VOTE] Add REST Server to Apache Kafka

2016-10-25 Thread Suresh Srinivas
kef> _ From: Harsha Chintalapani mailto:ka...@harsha.io>> Sent: Tuesday, October 25, 2016 2:20 PM Subject: [VOTE] Add REST Server to Apache Kafka To: mailto:dev@kafka.apache.org>>, mailto:us...@kafka.apache.org>> Hi All, We are proposing to have a REST Server as

Re: [VOTE] Add REST Server to Apache Kafka

2016-10-25 Thread parth brahmbhatt
+1. On Tue, Oct 25, 2016 at 2:58 PM, Jay Kreps wrote: > -1 > > I think the REST server for Kafka that already exists is quite good and > getting contributions. Moving this into the core project doesn't solve a > problem that I see. > > -Jay > > On Tue, Oct 25, 2016 at 2:16 PM, Harsha Chintalapan

Re: [VOTE] Add REST Server to Apache Kafka

2016-10-25 Thread Jay Kreps
-1 I think the REST server for Kafka that already exists is quite good and getting contributions. Moving this into the core project doesn't solve a problem that I see. -Jay On Tue, Oct 25, 2016 at 2:16 PM, Harsha Chintalapani wrote: > Hi All, >We are proposing to have a REST Server

[VOTE] Add REST Server to Apache Kafka

2016-10-25 Thread Harsha Chintalapani
Hi All, We are proposing to have a REST Server as part of Apache Kafka to provide producer/consumer/admin APIs. We Strongly believe having REST server functionality with Apache Kafka will help a lot of users. Here is the KIP that Mani Kumar wrote https://cwiki.apache.org/confluence/disp