Re: Hotfixes on the master

2020-02-19 Thread Chesnay Schepler
@Arvid Pretty sure that goes against ASF rules. On 19/02/2020 14:26, Arvid Heise wrote: Let me be a troll, but couldn't we just disable push to master for committers? That would make smaller backports harder, but it would also eliminate unreviewed commits. And we wouldn't need to draw a line be

Re: Hotfixes on the master

2020-02-19 Thread Arvid Heise
Let me be a troll, but couldn't we just disable push to master for committers? That would make smaller backports harder, but it would also eliminate unreviewed commits. And we wouldn't need to draw a line between minor for direct push and bigger changes that need review. On Wed, Feb 19, 2020 at 1

Re: Hotfixes on the master

2020-02-19 Thread Piotr Nowojski
Hi, I agree with question posted by Till, what problems are we trying to solve? Regarding merging unreviewed commits, I’m +1 for disallowing those things. Anything that is trivial enough that I would accept as being merged without review, is also trivial enough to review. The additional review

Re: Hotfixes on the master

2020-02-19 Thread Aljoscha Krettek
Side comment: the problem of not knowing where a commit came from could be fixed by always including merge commits, just saying... ;-) Aljoscha On 19.02.20 11:43, Robert Metzger wrote: Thank you for your response. Your response makes me realize that I should have first asked whether other comm

Re: Hotfixes on the master

2020-02-19 Thread Robert Metzger
Thank you for your response. Your response makes me realize that I should have first asked whether other committers consider the amount of hotfix commits problematic or not. >From the number of responses to my message, I have the feeling that most committers are not concerned. I personally believe

Re: Hotfixes on the master

2020-02-18 Thread Till Rohrmann
Thanks for raising this point Robert. I think it is important to remind the community about the agreed practices once in a while. In most of the cases I had the impression that the majority of the community sticks to the agreed rules. W/o more detailed numbers (how many of the hotfix commits are o

Re: Hotfixes on the master

2020-02-17 Thread Robert Metzger
Hi all, I would like to revive this very old thread on the topic of "unreviewed hotfixes on master" again. Out of the 35 commits listed on the latest commits page on GitHub, 18 have the tag "hotfix", on the next page it is 9, then 16, 17, ... In the last 140 commits, 42% were hotfixes. For the sa

Re: Hotfixes on the master

2016-05-28 Thread Vasiliki Kalavri
Hi all, in principle I agree with Max. I personally avoid hotfixes and always open a PR, even for javadoc improvements. I believe the main problem is that we don't have a clear definition of what constitutes a "hotfix". Ideally, even cosmetic changes and documentation should be reviewed; I've see

Re: Hotfixes on the master

2016-05-27 Thread Greg Hogan
Max, I certainly agree that hotfixes are not ideal for large refactorings and new features. Some thoughts ... A hotfix should be maven verified, as should a rebased PR. Travis is often backed up for half a day or more. Is our Jira and PR process sufficiently agile to handle these hotfixes? Will

Re: Hotfixes on the master

2016-05-27 Thread Chesnay Schepler
I fully agree with Max, it just enables people to be sloppy and/or lazy without providing any good means of quality control. On 27.05.2016 12:10, Maximilian Michels wrote: Hi Flinksters, I'd like to address an issue that has been concerning me for a while. In the Flink community we like to pus