Re: [DISCUSS] Replace user@f.a.o with Stackoverflow

2015-04-20 Thread Henry Saputra
@Ted, you are right, decisions should be make in the dev@ list so I was not saying we could not have users discussions it outside of Apache land, but should be also happening in user@ list. So I apologize to Ufuk, Robert, and Stephan if my response implied that way. Like @Robert has said before, s

Re: [DISCUSS] Replace user@f.a.o with Stackoverflow

2015-04-20 Thread Ted Dunning
Henry, I think that the requirement is that project decisions need to be made on an Apache controlled resource. Not sure how many project decisions are made on the user list. I know I answer a ton of Mahout questions on quora. Having more than one arena for answers and reflecting between them f

Re: [DISCUSS] Replace user@f.a.o with Stackoverflow

2015-04-20 Thread Stephan Ewen
I like the searchability of StackOverflow better than that of Mailing List archives, but we need to stick to Apache rules here. I like to idea of posting answers with a lot of effort to StackOverflow. Not sure however how it looks if we post a lot of questions and answer them ourselves. Looks weir

Re: [DISCUSS] Replace user@f.a.o with Stackoverflow

2015-04-20 Thread Kostas Tzoumas
If we clearly preface with a boilerplate text and a link to the users@ question it might look less weird :-) Perhaps we can create a stackoverflow user whose purpose is to create questions that mirror the users@ list? Not sure how much this can be automated though On Mon, Apr 20, 2015 at 4:25 PM,

Re: [DISCUSS] Replace user@f.a.o with Stackoverflow

2015-04-20 Thread Robert Metzger
I think the mailinglists are indexed by Google as well, through various web based mirrors. SO is good for questions with clear answers, but if a user wants more interactive feedback (with questions back and forth) the user@ list is probably better. Also, people which are experienced with Apache pr

Re: [DISCUSS] Replace user@f.a.o with Stackoverflow

2015-04-19 Thread Ufuk Celebi
Thanks for the info Henry. Then I'll just add some text to the webpage to make sure people know how to look for old ML answers via Nabble. Should do the job as well. :-) On Saturday, April 18, 2015, Henry Saputra wrote: > Unfortunately as top level Apache project we can not have official > discu

Re: [DISCUSS] Replace user@f.a.o with Stackoverflow

2015-04-18 Thread Henry Saputra
Unfortunately as top level Apache project we can not have official discussions outside Apache domains. Which means that we still need user@ list as the main mechanism for users to ask to communicate and ask questions. Some Apache projects like Hadoop and Spark also have the community monitoring St

[DISCUSS] Replace user@f.a.o with Stackoverflow

2015-04-18 Thread Ufuk Celebi
Hey all, I've been asking myself: how can we make it as easy as possible for future users who run into problems to find existing answers? As an example take this answer from Stephan [1]. This is super valuable feedback and a very specific question. Ideally, a new user who runs into the same probl