Re: [DISCUSS] (was Re: [VOTE] What should be the new Project Name for Proposed fork of FlexJS?)

Thanks Piotr. Looks like we’re now Royale. :-) Harbs > On Sep 20, 2017, at 12:51 AM, Piotr Zarzycki > wrote: > > I will end voting tomorrow 09/19/2017 6:00 - 7:00 UTC Time. > > Thanks, > Piotr > > 2017-09-19 23:15 GMT+02:00 Alex Harui : > >> Justin voted. >> >> Now we have Royale and Limb

FlexJS Customer feedback

We are currently in a “partner preview” of our FlexJS application and getting feedback from partners prior to a wider preview. The feedback has been good so far. I just wanted to share one bit of feedback we got: > Super fast and responsive I think this is even relative to our old Flash app. Thi

Re: [DISCUSS] (was Re: [VOTE] What should be the new Project Name for Proposed fork of FlexJS?)

Thanks Piotr, just see the results and very happy to see that Royale was the most voted. Now is time to work the brand to make us shine. :) Carlos 2017-09-20 9:00 GMT+02:00 Harbs : > Thanks Piotr. > > Looks like we’re now Royale. :-) > > Harbs > > > On Sep 20, 2017, at 12:51 AM, Piotr Zarzycki

Re: [DISCUSS] Name of the FlexJS Fork

I kept repeating "Bead" over and over in my head and all of a sudden turned it into "Beadle", which I think has a much nicer ring to it. Then looked it up and apparently it's an existing word (didn't think it was, but then again, English isn't my native language). Beadle: sometimes spelled

Re: FlexJS Customer feedback

What is this FlexJS you are talking about? I sound a lot like this "Royale" thing I'm hearing a lot about recently... Is it similar? :-P EdB On Wed, Sep 20, 2017 at 9:28 AM, Harbs wrote: > We are currently in a “partner preview” of our FlexJS application and > getting feedback from partners

Re: FlexJS Customer feedback

That's really great!!! and really promising!!! @Harbs: can you share some app screenshots? just to see which components you are using... it's a porting from a Flex app you did ? PS: We (Trevor and I) are working on the FlexJS UI, we are trying to find time slots in our time (as everyone do in thi

Re: FlexJS Customer feedback

Hi Harbs, I have to admit I had hope that you send feedback from your customers some day! Wonderful! Congrats to you and Yishay! Thank you! Piotr On Wed, Sep 20, 2017, 09:28 Harbs wrote: > We are currently in a “partner preview” of our FlexJS application and > getting feedback from partners

Re: [DISCUSS] (was Re: [VOTE] What should be the new Project Name for Proposed fork of FlexJS?)

Carlos, If you will need any help and my time allows let me know. :) Piotr On Wed, Sep 20, 2017, 09:29 Carlos Rovira wrote: > Thanks Piotr, just see the results and very happy to see that Royale was > the most voted. Now is time to work the brand to make us shine. > > :) > > Carlos > > 2017-09

Re: [DISCUSS] Name of the FlexJS Fork

Hi Peter, voting was closed and now project is called "Royale" (see vote results thread) Thanks for share your thoughts! Carlos 2017-09-20 9:30 GMT+02:00 Peter Ginneberge : > > I kept repeating "Bead" over and over in my head and all of a sudden > turned it into "Beadle", which I think has a mu

Re: FlexJS Customer feedback

Angelo! That is wonderful news! Thank you, Piotr On Wed, Sep 20, 2017, 09:34 Angelo Lazzari wrote: > That's really great!!! and really promising!!! > > @Harbs: can you share some app screenshots? just to see which components > you are using... it's a porting from a Flex app you did ? > > PS: W

Re: [DISCUSS] (was Re: [VOTE] What should be the new Project Name for Proposed fork of FlexJS?)

Well, it isn't official until the board approves, hopefully tomorrow. I updated the board resolution, and modified the board report and added "Apache Royale will take responsibility for what is now Apache FlexJS and related repos." I also updated the PODLINGNAMESEARCH JIRA issue. https://issues.a

[DISCUSS] Building the brand for Royale

Hi all, now that we decided to change our name to Royale. we must to make some serious work in the next weeks. We talked about: * Logo: We need to design logo to make Royale attractive at first sight * Website: A new name, and logo requires a good, clean and beautiful website that make us be eleg

Re: FlexJS Customer feedback

Hi Angelo, It’s great to hear you are working on that! Looking forward to what you come up with. :-) Here’s a screenshot of the app. If you want to see more, I can follow up with you off-list next week. (I will not be online until Sunday.) https://www.evernote.com/l/AI-Kk-KyF45Am7qKhwjgIF4aEn8u

Re: FlexJS Customer feedback

Angelo, great, great news!. I think UI design is crucial for us, so that work would be very appreciated! :) Could Trevor and you share something of your work? I think we need something "punchy" in the visuals to make this project be more eye candy for newcomers. That joined to new brand, website

Re: [DISCUSS] Building the brand for Royale

> > * Domain: We must find a good and simple domain for Royale. I think if we > can find something short like "royale.XXX" would be great over > "apacheroyale.XXX". > .com, .org, .net, .io etc. all seem to be either in use or squatted upon. Am I forgetting memorable TLP extensions? I assume we don

Re: [DISCUSS] Building the brand for Royale

Definitely not royale.xxx. We’re trying to steer clear of adult sites. :-D I think an apache.org site is totally fine. FWIW, royalesdk.io royalesdk.com , etc. are all available. Harbs > On Sep 20, 2017, at 1:33 PM, Erik de Bruin wrote: > >> >> *

Re: [RESULT][VOTE] What should be the new Project Name for Proposed fork of FlexJS?

Hi, I think you may need to double check the count. > Royale 18 > Limber (Limbr) 13 > Bead (Beads)11 > Braid 10 > Arise 9 > Bo

Re: [RESULT][VOTE] What should be the new Project Name for Proposed fork of FlexJS?

Carlos and Peter both only voted for two options. Even if we’re off by one, Royale is the clear winner. (I get 18 votes as well.) I don’t see a reason to be concerned or give Piotr more work. If you are concerned, you can double-check the tally. Make sure you get Erik’s final vote which might b

Re: [RESULT][VOTE] What should be the new Project Name for Proposed fork of FlexJS?

Hi, > Even if we’re off by one, Royale is the clear winner. (I get 18 votes as > well.) I’m not seeing 18 votes for Royale would you mind listing them out. Thanks, Justin

Re: [RESULT][VOTE] What should be the new Project Name for Proposed fork of FlexJS?

Spreadsheet with VOTES. Royale has a two points less, but still this is our choose [1]. [1] https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/1kOvPBUgkxcdIksEWOgKhzipy5EPR0eDz8JrlB2aDTCo/edit?usp=sharing Thanks, Piotr - Apache Flex PMC piotrzarzyck...@gmail.com -- Sent from: http://apache-flex-dev

Re: [RESULT][VOTE] What should be the new Project Name for Proposed fork of FlexJS?

I will put those scores in the plain text here later today. Thanks, Piotr - Apache Flex PMC piotrzarzyck...@gmail.com -- Sent from: http://apache-flex-development.247.n4.nabble.com/

Re: [RESULT][VOTE] What should be the new Project Name for Proposed fork of FlexJS?

Hi, > Spreadsheet with VOTES. Royale has a two points less, but still this is our > choose [1]. > > [1] > https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/1kOvPBUgkxcdIksEWOgKhzipy5EPR0eDz8JrlB2aDTCo/edit?usp=sharing So looks like there's 14 voters their not 13? Was Tom missed in the first count? The

Re: [RESULT][VOTE] What should be the new Project Name for Proposed fork of FlexJS?

Justin, I can give you edit rights - can you put there corrections ? Cause I don't know where I have mistake. Let me know. Thanks, Piotr 2017-09-20 14:22 GMT+02:00 Justin Mclean : > Hi, > > > Spreadsheet with VOTES. Royale has a two points less, but still this is > our choose [1]. > > > > [1]

Re: [RESULT][VOTE] What should be the new Project Name for Proposed fork of FlexJS?

As for you question. I'm not sure who was missed, but as you can see in the spreadsheet I did mistake, cause Royale has less votes. If you will see anything more let me know. Thanks, Piotr - Apache Flex PMC piotrzarzyck...@gmail.com -- Sent from: http://apache-flex-development.247.n4.n

Re: [DISCUSS] Building the brand for Royale

As an Apache project the domain would be: Royale.apache.org I can write a long discussion about policy later but there are reasons, requirements, approvals around use of other domains. I know everyone is enthusiastic but let's get approved by the board first. Regards, Dave Sent from my iPhone

Re: [RESULT][VOTE] What should be the new Project Name for Proposed fork of FlexJS?

It looks like I miscounted due to Piotr changing his vote: Votes for Royale: piotr - 1 carlos - 3 yishay - 2 peter - 3 jeffry - 2 dave - 1 justin 1 alex - 3 Total - 16 Royale still wins. Thanks, Harbs > On Sep 20, 2017, at 2:36 PM, Justin Mclean wrote: > > Hi, > >> Even if we’re off by one,

Re: [DISCUSS] Building the brand for Royale

Guys, congrats for selecting the new project name. Still not sure how Royale resonates with me, but like it much more than the 1st runner up. Non English speakers would pretty often confuse beads with beds and job ads might sound strange. Just imagine: "Looking for an amazing Beads expert to jo

Re: [DISCUSS] Building the brand for Royale

Hi, as Alex and Dave said, we should wait for board approval. @Harbs, I was using "xxx" to refer to "whatever domain extension out there that would fit for us" ;) @Dave, I understand that we should use the apache domain for the service apache provide (i.e: store code, mailing list, releases...),

Re: [RESULT][VOTE] What should be the new Project Name for Proposed fork of FlexJS?

Hi Justin, Vote now looks proper to me from the tallies. > On Sep 20, 2017, at 8:22 AM, Justin Mclean wrote: > > Hi, > >> Spreadsheet with VOTES. Royale has a two points less, but still this is our >> choose [1]. >> >> [1] >> https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/1kOvPBUgkxcdIksEWOgKhzipy5E

Re: [RESULT][VOTE] What should be the new Project Name for Proposed fork of FlexJS?

Here is my summary from the google doc with additional Excel analysis: NAME: Piotr ErikCarlos Chris Harbs Yishay Peter DaveOm OlafMarkJeffry AlexJustin Tom Sum Count Royale 1 3 2 3 1

Re: [RESULT][VOTE] What should be the new Project Name for Proposed fork of FlexJS?

Dave, Thank you for posting that! It would be extremely hard today to me find the time pasting here the vote. Piotr 2017-09-20 17:45 GMT+02:00 Dave Fisher : > Here is my summary from the google doc with additional Excel analysis: > > NAME: Piotr Erik Carlos Chris Harbs Yishay Peter Dave Om Olaf

Re: FlexJS Customer feedback

We are still getting in thouch with last graphic tendencies, behaviours and so on... We will soon share a doc with the result...the plan is: get info and ideas - Create the doc - Share the doc and get your opinion - Elaborate the fonal doc - Create ui on doc detail This should be the road map...

Re: FlexJS Customer feedback

Hi Harbs, Yishay, Congratulation on your migration! I agree, everyone who has contributed to our PAYG philosophy and use of Beads deserves credit. It may not be fair to say that all performance gains are due to the coding patterns we've used. The JS runtimes in the browsers have gotten much fas

Re: [DISCUSS] Building the brand for Royale

Hi Carlos, We can go grab some royale. domains. Apache will have some rules about what can go on them. At the worst it will have to be a straight redirect to royale.apache.org, but I think we might be able to have at least a landing page. I think the goal is that Apache wants strong association

Re: [DISCUSS] Building the brand for Royale

I think Carlos's idea with using wordpress can be better one. He can build based on that system our website much faster. I don't think we will have so much possibility visually using github pages. Although in githubpages I would see Olaf's documentation [1]. [1] https://github.com/ok-at-github/fl

Re: [DISCUSS] Building the brand for Royale

Hi Alex, that's my bet. To make a good website I proposed to make it in Wordpress since is what I have some expertise in that field (If I'm the person in charge to make it happen). All the team can as well have an account in the WP dash board to be able to post and share content in a easy way. WP

Re: [RESULT][VOTE] What should be the new Project Name for Proposed fork of FlexJS?

Thanks Dave for posting the summary. I cannot find record of Tom's vote in my email or on lists.a.o. It is bugging me because that means I wasn't sending out the right totals yesterday. And we should record here where to find his vote in the archives. What day did he send it? Thanks, -Alex

Re: [DISCUSS] Building the brand for Royale

Hi Piotr, as you said, I'll go for WP, but we can point to some GitHub pages if we need. That would be more clear as we start the website development 2017-09-20 18:56 GMT+02:00 Piotr Zarzycki : > I think Carlos's idea with using wordpress can be better one. He can build > based on that system ou

Re: [RESULT][VOTE] What should be the new Project Name for Proposed fork of FlexJS?

Alex, You are right! I just checked in the email chain and I see Tom's vote, but he did mistake and send it only to me!! Vote was as we see in the summary. Piotr On Wed, Sep 20, 2017, 19:02 Alex Harui wrote: > Thanks Dave for posting the summary. > > I cannot find record of Tom's vote in my e

Re: [DISCUSS] Building the brand for Royale

Hmm. I think if we grab a domain and donate it to the ASF, that it can't be hosted on non-ASF hardware. That would need to be verified. Maybe it would be better for the Royale PMC to approve Royale.xx as a third-party domain under Carlos's control. I think that's allowed. The policy [1] says

Re: [RESULT][VOTE] What should be the new Project Name for Proposed fork of FlexJS?

OK, well it doesn't affect the outcome, but Tom, can you forward your vote to dev@ so the archives match the totals? I think we can count it even if it didn't hit the list on time. At least, it is close enough for me. Thanks, -Alex On 9/20/17, 10:13 AM, "Piotr Zarzycki" wrote: >Alex, > >You a

Re: [DISCUSS] Building the brand for Royale

I would stay away from WordPress just because of all the security issues and maintenance required. Github pages should be a better place. Thanks, Om On Sep 20, 2017 10:26 AM, "Alex Harui" wrote: > Hmm. > > I think if we grab a domain and donate it to the ASF, that it can't be > hosted on non-A

Re: [DISCUSS] Building the brand for Royale

> I think if we grab a domain and donate it to the ASF, that it can't be > hosted on non-ASF hardware. That would need to be verified. > Maybe it would be better for the Royale PMC to approve Royale.xx as a > third-party domain under Carlos's control. I think that's allowed. The > policy [1] say

Re: [DISCUSS] Building the brand for Royale

True, that's a lot of rules. Part of that is because we owe our hosts (the ASF) some "props". But that may be why it is easier for us to approve Carlos to do what we wants outside the project. It will free him most of these rules. AIUI, the only rules would then be: 1) make sure Apache is menti

Re: [DISCUSS] Building the brand for Royale

Hi, as Erik stated, apache put stones on our road, and we must look more careful were you step. @Om, my problem with gihub pages is that I can't get the same product that I could do in WP. Take a look at one of my websites (i.e https://www.avant2.es). Maybe I could get a final static page, but in

Re: [DISCUSS] Building the brand for Royale

Alex, I would like to see getting the website done in FlexJS for a long time. If Carlos will design the things, let's see what can we actually do. It just would be awesome not waiting half year or so to launch our website. +1 for building it in FlexJS, but before that we should have some start -

Re: [DISCUSS] Building the brand for Royale

Hi - Wordpress on apache infrastructure would require following every Wordpress release which can be more frequently than monthly. The PMC would need to provide the manpower to do this. We would also need to be careful about plugins which can also have security issues. I say if we can eat our

Re: [DISCUSS] Building the brand for Royale

Hi Alex, I was not thinking in promote Codeoscopic, but if I can put a link in some place, it would be ok. In the end Codeoscopic is a product company and its customers are insurance companies, so there's no much interest for me in that regard or at least I can see a logic relation since we don't

Re: [DISCUSS] Building the brand for Royale

AIUI, we are going to build at least three sites: 1) Royale.apache.org is a requirement. And I think we have to use ASF CMS and whatever markup language it requires unless we generate html and js elsewhere and copy it in, which would be the case for any FlexJS/Royale apps. 2) https://github.com/

Re: [DISCUSS] Building the brand for Royale

I use to update my WP installations regularly. I did it just minutes ago ;) I get notifications when some update is ready. As others in the team will have admin privileges in the installation, we can organice us easily to see how is in charge of doing updates. Others in the team could only have edi

Re: [DISCUSS] Building the brand for Royale

I think that's right Alex, I think I can start creating as we get boards approval for "Royale" Thanks 2017-09-20 20:08 GMT+02:00 Alex Harui : > AIUI, we are going to build at least three sites: > > 1) Royale.apache.org is a requirement. And I think we have to use ASF CMS > and whatever markup

Re: [RESULT][VOTE] What should be the new Project Name for Proposed fork of FlexJS?

Hi - I cannot find it either. We need to remove his vote. That does not change the winner and only swaps the 3r and 4th place. Regards, Dave > On Sep 20, 2017, at 1:02 PM, Alex Harui wrote: > > Thanks Dave for posting the summary. > > I cannot find record of Tom's vote in my email or on lis

Re: [DISCUSS] Building the brand for Royale

AIUI, one of the other "rules" for royale.apache.org is that it cannot run web servers, so JSFiddle type of things may not be possible without calling out to a server outside apache.org and thus facing cross-domain issues. I've seen some recent mention that Apache project can now get their own VM,

Re: [DISCUSS] Building the brand for Royale

On 20/09/17 19:08, Alex Harui wrote: > AIUI, we are going to build at least three sites: > > 1) Royale.apache.org is a requirement. And I think we have to use ASF CMS > and whatever markup language it requires unless we generate html and js > elsewhere and copy it in, which would be the case for

Re: [DISCUSS] Building the brand for Royale

Hi, One thing we could do with an external Wordpress is have tooling which captures posts and checks these into git. We can probably do it with a WP addin. I've used a variation of this approach to provide content to an iOS app. Regards, Dave Sent from my iPhone > On Sep 20, 2017, at 1:51 PM