Build Servers

2014-04-17 Thread Nicholas Kwiatkowski
I was talking to some of the people at a.o. infra on IRC and they mentioned that they have a new Windows VM that they launched for CI services... They are looking for people to help them test it out and get it setup. Do we have any interest in that? They would like to get this setup to help with

Re: Build Servers

2014-04-17 Thread OmPrakash Muppirala
On Thu, Apr 17, 2014 at 11:23 AM, Nicholas Kwiatkowski wrote: > I was talking to some of the people at a.o. infra on IRC and they mentioned > that they have a new Windows VM that they launched for CI services... They > are looking for people to help them test it out and get it setup. Do we > hav

Re: Build Servers

2014-04-17 Thread Alex Harui
I guess my question is: what are the tradeoffs of getting a flex-only CI server on my Azure VM vs relying on Apache? At Apache, we keep seeing other projects have build issues and require configuration changes that block us. And as Om just pointed out, once Infra has some other fire to fight, we

Re: Build Servers

2014-04-17 Thread OmPrakash Muppirala
On Thu, Apr 17, 2014 at 11:32 AM, Alex Harui wrote: > I guess my question is: what are the tradeoffs of getting a flex-only CI > server on my Azure VM vs relying on Apache? > > One disadvantage is that with Azure VM, we tend to run out of free credits around the 20th of each month. Erik usually

Re: Build Servers

2014-04-17 Thread Alex Harui
How much would it cost me to use my Azure VM instead of the Apache build server? On 4/17/14 11:39 AM, "OmPrakash Muppirala" wrote: >On Thu, Apr 17, 2014 at 11:32 AM, Alex Harui wrote: > >> I guess my question is: what are the tradeoffs of getting a flex-only CI >> server on my Azure VM vs relyi

Re: Build Servers

2014-04-17 Thread Erik de Bruin
Nothing. If you run a "medium" instance, it will be more than plenty powerful to do all build tasks whenever needed. And with the "free credits" that come with the committer MSDN licences you can run a "medium" instance for about 1.5 months every month ;-) EdB On Thu, Apr 17, 2014 at 8:45 PM,

Re: Build Servers

2014-04-17 Thread OmPrakash Muppirala
On Thu, Apr 17, 2014 at 11:45 AM, Alex Harui wrote: > How much would it cost me to use my Azure VM instead of the Apache build > server? > Depends on how much you use the machine. Mustella will probably cost a lot to run. Occasional sdk builds per checkin will be much less. If you use your co

Re: Build Servers

2014-04-17 Thread Alex Harui
Erik, If you didn't switch over to medium during the month, what do you think you'd end up paying each month? -Alex On 4/17/14 11:49 AM, "Erik de Bruin" wrote: >Nothing. > >If you run a "medium" instance, it will be more than plenty powerful to do >all build tasks whenever needed. And with the

Re: Build Servers

2014-04-17 Thread Erik de Bruin
Max 10 - 20 Euros. EdB On Thu, Apr 17, 2014 at 8:56 PM, Alex Harui wrote: > Erik, > > If you didn't switch over to medium during the month, what do you think > you'd end up paying each month? > > -Alex > > On 4/17/14 11:49 AM, "Erik de Bruin" wrote: > > >Nothing. > > > >If you run a "medium

Re: Build Servers

2014-04-17 Thread Erik de Bruin
At "large", an instance runs at about $5 a day. You get something like $150 a month, so can't run over the free part all that much. EdB On Thu, Apr 17, 2014 at 9:00 PM, Erik de Bruin wrote: > Max 10 - 20 Euros. > > EdB > > > > > On Thu, Apr 17, 2014 at 8:56 PM, Alex Harui wrote: > >> Erik,

Re: Build Servers

2014-04-17 Thread Alex Harui
OK, so what do others think? I'm totally fine with taking my Azure VM and turning it into the 'official' Flex CI server. We can try a 'medium' instance and see if it falls behind as we add more checkintests on the FlexJS side, and if we need to upgrade to 'large' I'll pay for it myself. It just

Re: Build Servers

2014-04-17 Thread Nicholas Kwiatkowski
They did say that they have some relationship with Microsoft for Azure boxes as well. Nobody has taken them up on it, but it might be something to ask -- that way you don't have to do it on your own dime when we go over.. -Nick On Thu, Apr 17, 2014 at 3:09 PM, Alex Harui wrote: > OK, so what

Re: Build Servers

2014-04-17 Thread OmPrakash Muppirala
On Thu, Apr 17, 2014 at 12:09 PM, Alex Harui wrote: > OK, so what do others think? I'm totally fine with taking my Azure VM and > turning it into the 'official' Flex CI server. We can try a 'medium' > instance and see if it falls behind as we add more checkintests on the > FlexJS side, and if w

Re: Build Servers

2014-04-17 Thread Alex Harui
Can you or Om pursue that angle? To me the key things we want are a Flex-only box so we don't have to worry about pollution from other projects, and total administration control. Infra can have admin rights and can forbid us from doing certain network/security things, but otherwise, we need to be

Re: Build Servers

2014-04-17 Thread Alex Harui
On 4/17/14 12:14 PM, "OmPrakash Muppirala" wrote: >On Thu, Apr 17, 2014 at 12:09 PM, Alex Harui wrote: > >> OK, so what do others think? I'm totally fine with taking my Azure VM >>and >> turning it into the 'official' Flex CI server. We can try a 'medium' >> instance and see if it falls behi

Re: Build Servers

2014-04-17 Thread OmPrakash Muppirala
On Thu, Apr 17, 2014 at 12:19 PM, Alex Harui wrote: > Can you or Om pursue that angle? I am planning on catching up with Gavin on IRC. I will ask him about this. Thanks, Om > To me the key things we want are a > Flex-only box so we don't have to worry about pollution from other > projects,

Re: Build Servers

2014-04-17 Thread Erik de Bruin
+1 I'm all fed up with 'builds@a.o' (you could probably tell from my emails ;-)) and it's time we get reliable CI going. EdB On Thu, Apr 17, 2014 at 9:09 PM, Alex Harui wrote: > OK, so what do others think? I'm totally fine with taking my Azure VM and > turning it into the 'official' Flex C

Re: about the issue FLEX-33423?

2014-04-17 Thread Alex Harui
Hi Piotr, I decided to take a quick look. It appears that maxChars is enforced in RichEditableText and not in TLF. I'm going to dig further unless you want to do the digging. Thanks, -Alex On 4/15/14 1:41 AM, "piotrz" wrote: >Thanks Alex. I will try to do this but no promise. > >Piotr > > >

Re: Build Servers

2014-04-17 Thread Alex Harui
OK, thanks. It sounds like the three of us have consensus that we'd like to do builds on our own box. If Apache can provide us with our own box that's great, but otherwise we'll do it on our own. If Gavin feels slighted by our pulling out of Builds, feel free to tell him that, IMO, it isn't that

Re: Next Donation from Adobe

2014-04-17 Thread Alex Harui
And it is official, the Apache Secretary has filed the donation paperwork. Apache Flex now "owns" all of the content below. (Apache doesn't really own it, but rather, has a license to it). I recently found out that post-graduation donations from Adobe were not handled properly by the Flex PMC.

Re: Next Donation from Adobe

2014-04-17 Thread Nicholas Kwiatkowski
Alex, Let me know if I can help with the scrubbing effort. My work-load will lighten up at the office in a few weeks and I can put a few cycles towards that. -Nick On Thu, Apr 17, 2014 at 3:58 PM, Alex Harui wrote: > And it is official, the Apache Secretary has filed the donation paperwork.

Re: Build Servers

2014-04-17 Thread Sean Thayne
I just want to add something. Being that this is a open source project. We could get a free license for Bamboo that allows unlimited remote agents. Bamboo is much much much easier to add remote agents(windows, linux, osx) than Jenkins, Hudson, etc. As the agents don't need to have any server softw

Re: Next Donation from Adobe

2014-04-17 Thread Alex Harui
Hi Nick, Thanks for volunteering. Yeah, I think I can use your help. I should have a better understanding of the steps we need to take to get Incubator sign off by time you get freed up a bit. So ping me when you are sure you're going to have cycles and we'll figure it out. Thanks, -Alex On

Re: Next Donation from Adobe

2014-04-17 Thread Alex Harui
Looks like we have to have a [VOTE] to accept the donation. Stay tuned. -Alex On 4/17/14 1:19 PM, "Alex Harui" wrote: >Hi Nick, > >Thanks for volunteering. Yeah, I think I can use your help. I should >have a better understanding of the steps we need to take to get Incubator >sign off by time

[VOTE] Accept Adobe Donation

2014-04-17 Thread Alex Harui
Please vote to accept the donation of the following Flex-related code and documentation from Adobe Systems, Inc. The vote will be open for at least 72 hours. Thanks, -Alex In the donation is: 1. Several Flex articles from the ADC web-site. 2. An updated version of the FDB debugger that contain

Re: [VOTE] Accept Adobe Donation

2014-04-17 Thread Jun Heider
On Apr 17, 2014, at 3:32 PM, Alex Harui wrote: > Please vote to accept the donation of the following Flex-related code and > documentation from Adobe Systems, Inc. > > The vote will be open for at least 72 hours. > > Thanks, > -Alex > > In the donation is: > > > 1. Several Flex articles fro

Re: [VOTE] Accept Adobe Donation

2014-04-17 Thread Mark Kessler
+1 (binding) -Mark On Thu, Apr 17, 2014 at 6:32 PM, Alex Harui wrote: > Please vote to accept the donation of the following Flex-related code and > documentation from Adobe Systems, Inc. > > The vote will be open for at least 72 hours. > > Thanks, > -Alex > > In the donation is: > > > 1. Sever

Re: [VOTE] Accept Adobe Donation

2014-04-17 Thread OmPrakash Muppirala
+1 Binding On Thu, Apr 17, 2014 at 3:37 PM, Jun Heider wrote: > > On Apr 17, 2014, at 3:32 PM, Alex Harui wrote: > > > Please vote to accept the donation of the following Flex-related code and > > documentation from Adobe Systems, Inc. > > > > The vote will be open for at least 72 hours. > > >

Re: [VOTE] Accept Adobe Donation

2014-04-17 Thread Gary Yang
2 is a must have!!! On Apr 17, 2014 6:32 PM, "Alex Harui" wrote: > Please vote to accept the donation of the following Flex-related code and > documentation from Adobe Systems, Inc. > > The vote will be open for at least 72 hours. > > Thanks, > -Alex > > In the donation is: > > > 1. Several Flex

[DISCUSS] Accepting Adobe Donation

2014-04-17 Thread Mark Kessler
Place any discussions in this thread. -Mark

Re: [VOTE] Accept Adobe Donation

2014-04-17 Thread Jeffry Houser
+1 [binding] On 4/17/2014 6:32 PM, Alex Harui wrote: Please vote to accept the donation of the following Flex-related code and documentation from Adobe Systems, Inc. The vote will be open for at least 72 hours. Thanks, -Alex In the donation is: 1. Several Flex articles from the ADC web-sit

Re: about the issue FLEX-33423?

2014-04-17 Thread Justin Mclean
Hi, > I decided to take a quick look. It appears that maxChars is enforced in > RichEditableText and not in TLF. It is enforced in this case it just allows a maximum of 8 not 7 as it should. Justin

Re: Build Servers

2014-04-17 Thread Justin Mclean
HI, > Do we want to at least use the ASF build server for providing official > nightly dev builds? +1 We can resonably trust infra machines to be secure and that non one has fiddled with the nightly builds. Our own set up machines are likely to be less secure and there's a small risk that somet

Re: about the issue FLEX-33423?

2014-04-17 Thread Alex Harui
On 4/17/14 3:52 PM, "Justin Mclean" wrote: >Hi, > >> I decided to take a quick look. It appears that maxChars is enforced in >> RichEditableText and not in TLF. >It is enforced in this case it just allows a maximum of 8 not 7 as it >should. It looks to me that it knows that maxChars is 7, but

Re: [VOTE] Accept Adobe Donation

2014-04-17 Thread Justin Mclean
+1 (binding)

Re: [DISCUSS] Accepting Adobe Donation

2014-04-17 Thread OmPrakash Muppirala
Non-PMC members are welcome to vote as well. Don't worry about the "binding" in the votes, it is only to make it easier to tally votes. We would like to know how the entire community feels about this, not just the PMC. Thanks, Om On Thu, Apr 17, 2014 at 3:51 PM, Mark Kessler wrote: > Place an

Re:Re: [DISCUSS] Accepting Adobe Donation

2014-04-17 Thread DarkStone
Hi,I'm happy for the flex related donations from Adobe, I think they should've done it a long time ago.BTW, there is no updates from Flash Builder since v4.7, if Adobe doesn't like it, they should totally donate it to Apache!DarkStone2014-04-18 At 2014-04-18 07:06:18, "OmPrakash Muppirala" wrot

Re: [DISCUSS] Discuss Apache Flex Falcon 0.0.1 RC3

2014-04-17 Thread Mark Kessler
Do we need to add a line in the README about adding the tests path to the trust file? Without it, you cannot finish an "ant main". -Mark On Thu, Apr 17, 2014 at 2:39 AM, Alex Harui wrote: > This is the discussion thread. > > In this RC3 I fixed some issues that Justin found: > -take some para

Re: [DISCUSS] Discuss Apache Flex Falcon 0.0.1 RC3

2014-04-17 Thread Justin Mclean
Hi, Just trying to run the compc/mxmlc in compiler.jx and get this: ./mxmlc Using Falcon codebase: ./../../compiler Using Flex SDK: /Users/justinmclean/Documents/ApacheFlex4.12released/ Error: Unable to access jarfile ./../lib/mxmlc.jar Is this expected? Thanks, Justin

Re: [DISCUSS] Discuss Apache Flex Falcon 0.0.1 RC3

2014-04-17 Thread Justin Mclean
Hi, The README_JX makes reference to the "Apache FlexJS SDK" as one of the prerequisites but doesn't tell you where you can get it. Also why do you need this if you just want to take some plain old AS with no Flex classes and convert to JS? I has assumed that the that FlexJS depended on Falco

Re: [DISCUSS] Discuss Apache Flex Falcon 0.0.1 RC3

2014-04-17 Thread Alex Harui
Did you run ant all at the top level? Sent via the PANTECH Discover, an AT&T 4G LTE smartphone. Justin Mclean wrote: Hi, Just trying to run the compc/mxmlc in compiler.jx and get this: ./mxmlc Using Falcon codebase: ./../../compiler Using Flex SDK: /Users/justinmclean/Documents/ApacheFlex4.12

Re: [DISCUSS] Discuss Apache Flex Falcon 0.0.1 RC3

2014-04-17 Thread Justin Mclean
HI, Work in progress: NOTICE, LICENCE, RELEASE_NOTE all OK (minor formatting/line length issues) checksum/sigs good rat report good can compile from source unit test pass can use mxmlc and compc without error One very minor issue (certainly not a blocker) Build number not correct (build number wa

Re: [DISCUSS] Discuss Apache Flex Falcon 0.0.1 RC3

2014-04-17 Thread Justin Mclean
Hi, Looks like there is only the old mxmlc.jar produced? find . -name "mxmlc.jar" -print ./compiler/generated/dist/sdk/lib-legacy/mxmlc.jar Justin

Re: [DISCUSS] Discuss Apache Flex Falcon 0.0.1 RC3

2014-04-17 Thread Justin Mclean
Hi, But if I do this: cd compiler.jx ant cd .. find . -name "mxmlc.jar" -print ./compiler/generated/dist/sdk/lib-legacy/mxmlc.jar ./compiler.jx/lib/mxmlc.jar It finds both. So looks like the top level ant isn't running ant on compiler.jx Thanks, Justin

Re: Re: [DISCUSS] Accepting Adobe Donation

2014-04-17 Thread Gary Yang
If binding refers to Flex data binding, I would say it is not the 1st priority, because it is based on Actionscript, developers can even make the same thing by ourselves. But the worker debugger thing is totally inside Flash Player, which is not open, we have to rely Adobe, so it should be the 1st

Re: [VOTE] Accept Adobe Donation

2014-04-17 Thread Nicholas Kwiatkowski
+1 (binding) On Thu, Apr 17, 2014 at 7:02 PM, Justin Mclean wrote: > +1 (binding) >

Re: [DISCUSS] Discuss Apache Flex Falcon 0.0.1 RC3

2014-04-17 Thread Alex Harui
Just to be clear, especially since my last response was from my phone: To build the falconjx source package you should run ant all "all" is a target in the top-level build.xml The default target "main" only builds falcon and not falconjx. There might be a better way to handle this, but

Re: [DISCUSS] Discuss Apache Flex Falcon 0.0.1 RC3

2014-04-17 Thread Alex Harui
OK will add. Not sure if it will go in this release or the next. Depends on how badly we need another RC. Again, this is an alpha build and I think most folks are going to use the binary packages. On 4/17/14 5:13 PM, "Mark Kessler" wrote: >Do we need to add a line in the README about adding t

Re: [DISCUSS] Discuss Apache Flex Falcon 0.0.1 RC3

2014-04-17 Thread Justin Mclean
HI, > To build the falconjx source package you should run > > ant all > > "all" is a target in the top-level build.xml README says: ant all(or just ant since the default target is main) REMDEME_JX says: ant main(or just ant since the default target is main) So that shoul

Re: [VOTE] Accept Adobe Donation

2014-04-17 Thread Rushme Nayak
+1 (non binding) On Fri, Apr 18, 2014 at 7:17 AM, Nicholas Kwiatkowski wrote: > +1 (binding) > > > On Thu, Apr 17, 2014 at 7:02 PM, Justin Mclean >wrote: > > > +1 (binding) > > > -- Warm Regards, *Rush-me*

Re: [VOTE] Accept Adobe Donation

2014-04-17 Thread piotrz
+1 (binding) Piotr - Apache Flex Committer piotrzarzyck...@gmail.com -- View this message in context: http://apache-flex-development.247.n4.nabble.com/VOTE-Accept-Adobe-Donation-tp36992p37018.html Sent from the Apache Flex Development mailing list archive at Nabble.com.

Re: [VOTE] Accept Adobe Donation

2014-04-17 Thread vardhananand
+1 --Original Message-- From: piotrz To: dev@flex.apache.org ReplyTo: dev@flex.apache.org Subject: Re: [VOTE] Accept Adobe Donation Sent: Apr 18, 2014 11:16 AM +1 (binding) Piotr - Apache Flex Committer piotrzarzyck...@gmail.com -- View this message in context: http://apache-flex

Re: [DISCUSS] Discuss Apache Flex Falcon 0.0.1 RC3

2014-04-17 Thread Alex Harui
On 4/17/14 9:49 PM, "Justin Mclean" wrote: >HI, > >> To build the falconjx source package you should run >> >> ant all >> >> "all" is a target in the top-level build.xml > >README says: >ant all(or just ant since the default target is main) > >REMDEME_JX says: >ant main(o

Re: about the issue FLEX-33423?

2014-04-17 Thread piotrz
It took me much more time to run TLF tests related to this class than I thought, but they are ready. Alex did you push this changes to repo ? I can run tlf tests on your changes but on Monday. I have just started vacation here, so no access to my code. :) Piotr - Apache Flex Committer piotr

Re: about the issue FLEX-33423?

2014-04-17 Thread piotrz
Sorry I didn't see your post about that is not TLF. It's ok. Thanks to this bug I've already run 8 (it's around 200 tests) tests classes. ;) Thanks Alex. Piotr - Apache Flex Committer piotrzarzyck...@gmail.com -- View this message in context: http://apache-flex-development.247.n4.nab

Re: about the issue FLEX-33423?

2014-04-17 Thread Alex Harui
I haven't pushed changes yet. The changes are at the bottom of my previous post so you can try it quickly if you have time. -Alex On 4/17/14 10:58 PM, "piotrz" wrote: >It took me much more time to run TLF tests related to this class than I >thought, but they are ready. >Alex did you push this

Re: [DISCUSS] Discuss Apache Flex Falcon 0.0.1 RC3

2014-04-17 Thread Justin Mclean
HI, > OK, I will remove the parenthetical part in README_JX in the next RC. And > add Mark's mention of the trust files. There are fairly minor issues but I think, but people need as much help as they can get to actually get it to work. > I would like to get an official release out soon so folk

Re: [DISCUSS] Discuss Apache Flex Falcon 0.0.1 RC3

2014-04-17 Thread Alex Harui
On 4/17/14 11:18 PM, "Justin Mclean" wrote: >HI, > >> OK, I will remove the parenthetical part in README_JX in the next RC. >>And >> add Mark's mention of the trust files. >There are fairly minor issues but I think, but people need as much help >as they can get to actually get it to work. > >>

Re: [DISCUSS] Discuss Apache Flex Falcon 0.0.1 RC3

2014-04-17 Thread Justin Mclean
Hi, > I'm not sure what error you are referring to. Didn't the 'can't find jar > file' go away after you ran ant all? Copied from previous email: May be another -1 sorry, dummy.as is a very simple class with a single trace in the constructor, dummy.mxml is a very simple s:Appliaction with a a:

Re: [DISCUSS] Discuss Apache Flex Falcon 0.0.1 RC3

2014-04-17 Thread Alex Harui
Please Justin, the only goal for this package is to be upstream of FlexJS. To me, it does not matter how it works against the Flex SDK. Let's get these packages out so we can attract more folks so a few might actually contribute and help fix these issues. If you can build the packages and use Fa