Can you or Om pursue that angle? To me the key things we want are a Flex-only box so we don't have to worry about pollution from other projects, and total administration control. Infra can have admin rights and can forbid us from doing certain network/security things, but otherwise, we need to be able to do anything we could do on our MSDN Azure Vms.
-Alex On 4/17/14 12:14 PM, "Nicholas Kwiatkowski" <nicho...@spoon.as> wrote: >They did say that they have some relationship with Microsoft for Azure >boxes as well. Nobody has taken them up on it, but it might be something >to ask -- that way you don't have to do it on your own dime when we go >over.. > >-Nick > > >On Thu, Apr 17, 2014 at 3:09 PM, Alex Harui <aha...@adobe.com> wrote: > >> OK, so what do others think? I'm totally fine with taking my Azure VM >>and >> turning it into the 'official' Flex CI server. We can try a 'medium' >> instance and see if it falls behind as we add more checkintests on the >> FlexJS side, and if we need to upgrade to 'large' I'll pay for it >>myself. >> >> It just seems like it will take less of our time than working with >>Apache >> Builds. For FlexJS we are probably going to want to install and >>maintain >> a variety of browsers. Right now we've disabled the FlexJS checkintest >>on >> Apache Builds because it didn't run and there was no simple way for me >>to >> debug it. I assume we really do want to run some sanity tests for each >> build, yes? >> >> -Alex >> >> On 4/17/14 12:00 PM, "Erik de Bruin" <e...@ixsoftware.nl> wrote: >> >> >Max 10 - 20 Euros. >> > >> >EdB >> > >> > >> > >> > >> >On Thu, Apr 17, 2014 at 8:56 PM, Alex Harui <aha...@adobe.com> wrote: >> > >> >> Erik, >> >> >> >> If you didn't switch over to medium during the month, what do you >>think >> >> you'd end up paying each month? >> >> >> >> -Alex >> >> >> >> On 4/17/14 11:49 AM, "Erik de Bruin" <e...@ixsoftware.nl> wrote: >> >> >> >> >Nothing. >> >> > >> >> >If you run a "medium" instance, it will be more than plenty powerful >> >>to do >> >> >all build tasks whenever needed. And with the "free credits" that >>come >> >> >with >> >> >the committer MSDN licences you can run a "medium" instance for >>about >> >>1.5 >> >> >months every month ;-) >> >> > >> >> >EdB >> >> > >> >> > >> >> > >> >> > >> >> >On Thu, Apr 17, 2014 at 8:45 PM, Alex Harui <aha...@adobe.com> >>wrote: >> >> > >> >> >> How much would it cost me to use my Azure VM instead of the Apache >> >>build >> >> >> server? >> >> >> >> >> >> On 4/17/14 11:39 AM, "OmPrakash Muppirala" <bigosma...@gmail.com> >> >> wrote: >> >> >> >> >> >> >On Thu, Apr 17, 2014 at 11:32 AM, Alex Harui <aha...@adobe.com> >> >>wrote: >> >> >> > >> >> >> >> I guess my question is: what are the tradeoffs of getting a >> >> >>flex-only CI >> >> >> >> server on my Azure VM vs relying on Apache? >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >One disadvantage is that with Azure VM, we tend to run out of >>free >> >> >>credits >> >> >> >around the 20th of each month. Erik usually avoids this by >> >>switching >> >> >>from >> >> >> >Large to Medium on a particular date every month. A medium sized >> >> >>instance >> >> >> >cannot run Mustella as fast as a Large instance. >> >> >> > >> >> >> >My plan is to: >> >> >> > >> >> >> >Use Apache's build servers to - >> >> >> > >> >> >> >1. Run sdk build for every checkin >> >> >> >2. Create release artifacts >> >> >> > >> >> >> >Use Azure VMs to - >> >> >> >1. Run Mustella tests >> >> >> >2. Build a network of slaves to run Mustella faster by >>distributing >> >> >>tests >> >> >> >across slaves. >> >> >> > >> >> >> >Thanks, >> >> >> >Om >> >> >> > >> >> >> > >> >> >> >> At Apache, we keep seeing other projects have build issues and >> >> >>require >> >> >> >> configuration changes that block us. And as Om just pointed >>out, >> >> >>once >> >> >> >> Infra has some other fire to fight, we can't get any support >>from >> >> >>them. >> >> >> >> I >> >> >> >> keep thinking it will be less total energy to use a Flex-only >> >>Azure >> >> >>VM. >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> -Alex >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> On 4/17/14 11:26 AM, "OmPrakash Muppirala" >><bigosma...@gmail.com> >> >> >> wrote: >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >On Thu, Apr 17, 2014 at 11:23 AM, Nicholas Kwiatkowski >> >> >> >> ><nicho...@spoon.as>wrote: >> >> >> >> > >> >> >> >> >> I was talking to some of the people at a.o. infra on IRC and >> >>they >> >> >> >> >>mentioned >> >> >> >> >> that they have a new Windows VM that they launched for CI >> >> >>services... >> >> >> >> >>They >> >> >> >> >> are looking for people to help them test it out and get it >> >>setup. >> >> >> >>Do we >> >> >> >> >> have any interest in that? They would like to get this >>setup >> >>to >> >> >>help >> >> >> >> >>with >> >> >> >> >> some of the issues with the current instability of the >>Windows >> >>CI >> >> >> >>server >> >> >> >> >> that is out there. They are offering direct access to the >> >>slave >> >> >> >> >>servers, I >> >> >> >> >> believe. >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> The contact is gmcdonald. He can be reached at builds@a.o. >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >Yes, I am in the thread with Gavin on builds@a.o. I popped >>into >> >> IRC >> >> >> >>last >> >> >> >> >night, they were firefighting the CMS issue, so couldn't start >> >>the >> >> >> >> >conversation with him. I am planning to volunteer my time to >> >>help >> >> >>with >> >> >> >> >this. >> >> >> >> > >> >> >> >> >Thanks, >> >> >> >> >Om >> >> >> >> > >> >> >> >> > >> >> >> >> >> -Nick >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> > >> >> > >> >> >-- >> >> >Ix Multimedia Software >> >> > >> >> >Jan Luykenstraat 27 >> >> >3521 VB Utrecht >> >> > >> >> >T. 06-51952295 >> >> >I. www.ixsoftware.nl >> >> >> >> >> > >> > >> >-- >> >Ix Multimedia Software >> > >> >Jan Luykenstraat 27 >> >3521 VB Utrecht >> > >> >T. 06-51952295 >> >I. www.ixsoftware.nl >> >>
