Re: A word about plugins

2013-03-14 Thread Filip Maj
On 3/12/13 5:26 PM, "Andrew Grieve" wrote: >One possible solution: Have JS-only plugins add a tag with a name >but no value. Thinking more generally here, as Anis said, the problem here is dependencies. I think determining how aware plugman needs to be of the project is important. Pretty sure p

RE: Who's who at cordova

2013-03-14 Thread Leutwyler, Markus
Please star me :) >Subject: Re: Who's who at cordova >I have starred it. If anyone else here is missing a star, let me know. >-Steve

Re: cordova-firefoxos repo has been created

2013-03-14 Thread Gord Tanner
Nice! Seems to be missing one commit: https://git-wip-us.apache.org/repos/asf?p=cordova-labs.git;a=commitdiff;h=76ecc678a888932695eb62695711b8a83f85ae87 Still waiting for Mozilla to send me the dev phone. Sent from my iPhone On 2013-03-14, at 1:18 AM, Brian LeRoux wrote: > *guitar solo* > >

Re: A word about plugins

2013-03-14 Thread Braden Shepherdson
I'm working on a high-level what-not-how sort of document for the whole plugin tools story, and this is something I keep coming back to. It's looking like we'll need to know what plugins are installed and where files have been placed where. This is important for uninstalling and also for updating t

Re: Cordova Screen Capture Plugin for Android

2013-03-14 Thread Andrew Grieve
My suggestion was just to prevent the UI thread from locking up so that you app doesn't appear to be frozen when the plugin is doing its thing. On Wed, Mar 13, 2013 at 5:03 PM, Aaron Charbonneau wrote: > Yah that's how I have it working now :) No problem with that approach for > working with Jas

Re: HideKeyboardFormAccessoryBar

2013-03-14 Thread Andrew Grieve
I think this falls into the same category as the KeyboardShrinksView setting I added recently. Both properties would be useful to toggle at runtime, and I we had a thread discussing the possibility of an API to toggle settings at runtime. Also note that a hidden accessory will probably require extr

RE: Updated W3C Contacts api

2013-03-14 Thread Josh Soref
Becky wrote: > The basic contacts object is pretty much the same but there have been > several enhancements. Most notably the find method is actual useful enough > to perform an efficient search! There is a result object defined as well > as events to indicate when a procedure is completed. And

Re: Who's who at cordova

2013-03-14 Thread Andrew Grieve
Profile created. Star needed. On Thu, Mar 14, 2013 at 5:59 AM, Leutwyler, Markus wrote: > Please star me :) > > > >Subject: Re: Who's who at cordova > >I have starred it. If anyone else here is missing a star, let me know. > >-Steve > >

Re: Who's who at cordova

2013-03-14 Thread Braden Shepherdson
I have initialized a dossier and require enstellation. On Thu, Mar 14, 2013 at 11:27 AM, Andrew Grieve wrote: > Profile created. Star needed. > > > On Thu, Mar 14, 2013 at 5:59 AM, Leutwyler, Markus > wrote: > > > Please star me :) > > > > > > >Subject: Re: Who's who at cordova > > >I have starr

Re: A word about plugins

2013-03-14 Thread Filip Maj
I'm wary of creating an additional manifest.. What if we came up with a convention for storing each plugin's plugin.xml within the native project structure that the plugin got installed into? It IS extra space needed, but a few kb per plugin doesn't seem so bad (this is just my naïve first-pass ty

Re: A word about plugins

2013-03-14 Thread Andrew Grieve
Copying the plugin.xml into the platform's project somewhere sounds like a good idea to me. I don't think we'd need to look in the config.xml to see what's installed then. We can just look at what plugin.xml files exist. On Thu, Mar 14, 2013 at 12:15 PM, Filip Maj wrote: > I'm wary of creating

Re: Updated W3C Contacts api

2013-03-14 Thread Becky Gibson
Hi, Josh, Yes, I've worked in W3C working groups - I know the risks of implementing too early in the process! However, when we wanted to add an API for contacts into PhoneGap we needed a place to start so we used the W3C working draft available at the time. We realized that it would likely chang

Re: Who's who at cordova

2013-03-14 Thread Steven Gill
It has been done On Thu, Mar 14, 2013 at 8:44 AM, Braden Shepherdson wrote: > I have initialized a dossier and require enstellation. > > > On Thu, Mar 14, 2013 at 11:27 AM, Andrew Grieve >wrote: > > > Profile created. Star needed. > > > > > > On Thu, Mar 14, 2013 at 5:59 AM, Leutwyler, Markus >

Re: A word about plugins

2013-03-14 Thread Anis KADRI
I don't think it matters either way. Copying plugin.xml to the target project folder might be easier to start. The hard stuff is dealing with plugin versions, dependencies and Cordova versions. Example: Plugin A depends on version 0.1.0 of Plugin B and Plugin C depends on version 0.2.0 of plugin B

Re: A word about plugins

2013-03-14 Thread Braden Shepherdson
I wish we could use npm's solution for that (let every package in node_modules have its own copy of its dependencies). That works for node but not for us, because these classes need to go into a single global namespace that's getting called by the bridge. I do like the idea of using the plugin.xml

Re: A word about plugins

2013-03-14 Thread Filip Maj
Sounds good to me Anis. More comments inline below. On 3/14/13 10:47 AM, "Anis KADRI" wrote: >The hard stuff is dealing with >plugin versions, dependencies and Cordova versions. If we think of these problems in light of a single cordova project, I think it gets easier because: - Cordova versio

Re: A word about plugins

2013-03-14 Thread Lorin Beer
>Cordova versions: we have tags. A single cordova project is >stuck to a single cordova version. Attempting to install a plugin into a >project running a different version of cordova should fail. Simple as that. I'm more comfortable with a warning. While warnings are often (re:always) ignored by

priv...@cordova.apache.org

2013-03-14 Thread Andrew Grieve
Tried sending a message to this list, but not sure if it went anywhere. Tried then emailing private-subscr...@cordova.apache.org and sent another email. Again, not sure if it got through. Did anyone on the list see an email come through? Is there some special step for getting onto the private@ li

Re: priv...@cordova.apache.org

2013-03-14 Thread Christian Grobmeier
On Thu, Mar 14, 2013 at 8:03 PM, Andrew Grieve wrote: > Tried sending a message to this list, but not sure if it went anywhere. > > Tried then emailing private-subscr...@cordova.apache.org and sent another > email. Again, not sure if it got through. > > Did anyone on the list see an email come thr

Re: priv...@cordova.apache.org

2013-03-14 Thread Andrew Grieve
Gotcha! Thanks. I've added a note about this to our wiki. On Thu, Mar 14, 2013 at 3:07 PM, Christian Grobmeier wrote: > On Thu, Mar 14, 2013 at 8:03 PM, Andrew Grieve wrote: > > Tried sending a message to this list, but not sure if it went anywhere. > > > > Tried then emailing private-subscr...

Re: A word about plugins

2013-03-14 Thread Braden Shepherdson
Even if we can do something clever with the code for those two versions of a plugin, the exec call names are still in one namespace. Adding versions to them would, in my opinion, make the cure worse than the disease. Then a plugin author would have to update his code every time any of his dependen

Re: A word about plugins

2013-03-14 Thread Filip Maj
I agree. This is not a problem worth solving (if you have ever worked with Ruby gems, you know what I'm talking about) And the plugin-depending-on-a-plugin is already happening. Some plugins require Facebook Connect already.. IMO drawing a line in the sand here is a good first step. On 3/14/13 12

Contacts, and when/how/who removes anything and why

2013-03-14 Thread Josh Soref
Becky wrote: > Yes, I've worked in W3C working groups I'm glad you do, I'm concerned about messaging - that others might not understand what it means. I've seen various groups really fail to understand such a detail. > - I know the risks of implementing too early in the process! > However, when

RE: cordova-firefoxos repo has been created

2013-03-14 Thread Herm Wong
Thanks for catching that Gord, I'll get that commit merged in. Anyone have any idea when the repo will propagate over to github? > Subject: Re: cordova-firefoxos repo has been created > From: gtan...@gmail.com > Date: Thu, 14 Mar 2013 09:44:02 -0400 > To: dev@cordova.apache.org > > Nice! > > See

Re: cordova-firefoxos repo has been created

2013-03-14 Thread Anis KADRI
It's not automatic. Someone needs to do something somewhere for it to propagate. Same issue with cordova-plugman. On Thu, Mar 14, 2013 at 2:12 PM, Herm Wong wrote: > Thanks for catching that Gord, I'll get that commit merged in. > Anyone have any idea when the repo will propagate over to github?

RE: cordova-firefoxos repo has been created

2013-03-14 Thread Herm Wong
Do I need to log another Infra issue to get it done? > Date: Thu, 14 Mar 2013 14:22:46 -0700 > Subject: Re: cordova-firefoxos repo has been created > From: anis.ka...@gmail.com > To: dev@cordova.apache.org > > It's not automatic. Someone needs to do something somewhere for it to > propagate. Same

Re: Contacts, and when/how/who removes anything and why

2013-03-14 Thread Becky Gibson
Well, I know that people do use find a lot and are frequently tripped up by it. They get confused over the fact that the fields array is the list of fields that are returned AND are searched. Most people expect all of the contact information returned and they think that the fields are just the fi

Re: who is James

2013-03-14 Thread Michael Brooks
Welcome James and thanks for the intro! I was wondering who you were :) On Tue, Mar 12, 2013 at 2:36 PM, Gord Tanner wrote: > Welcome! > > Sent from my iPhone > > On 2013-03-12, at 5:26 PM, Lorin Beer wrote: > > > Hi James, thanks for the intro! > > > > > > On Tue, Mar 12, 2013 at 2:18 PM, Anis

Re: Shravan - Intro + InAppBrowser Feature addition

2013-03-14 Thread Michael Brooks
Welcome Shravan. That's a pretty rad intern role. We have a similar intern, Benn Mapes, at Adobe Vancouver who we unleash on whatever peaks his interest. On Wed, Mar 13, 2013 at 3:04 PM, Brian LeRoux wrote: > /me highfives all around > > On Wed, Mar 13, 2013 at 2:33 PM, James Jong wrote: > > We

Re: Decreasing the Deprecation Time

2013-03-14 Thread Michael Brooks
+1 for switching the deprecation window from time to release. Michal summed it up perfectly. It's worth reflecting on Tommy and Simon's input. The deprecation window is there to give users adequate warning that breakage is impending. However, it's just make-work for us, if our user's don't care or

Re: New doc with new git workflows

2013-03-14 Thread Michael Brooks
Reads very well, nice work Braden! I was going to mention adding the creation of a topic branch for completeness, but Ian, Max, and you have already hashed that out. I would vote to create a "Contributor" section under "Guides." If Marcel feels there's importance in defining roles, then that's wh

Re: Decreasing the Deprecation Time

2013-03-14 Thread Tommy-Carlos Williams
I actually think the work would be with it if it actually meant that things didn't break at ALL until something's window closed.. but the reality is that this is a fast moving target and things like plugins are still breaking fairly frequently (which is worse than core api's changing since core

Re: Shravan - Intro + InAppBrowser Feature addition

2013-03-14 Thread Filip Maj
Benn got the cordova-cli working on Windows 8 today and has made progress on adding support for project-level cli tooling in the windows phone implementations! Go interns! On 3/14/13 7:56 PM, "Michael Brooks" wrote: >Welcome Shravan. That's a pretty rad intern role. We have a similar >inte