Re: Distributing ASF Material

2016-08-17 Thread Ted Dunning
On Wed, Aug 17, 2016 at 9:53 AM, Alan Gates wrote: > I would like to add some context to Ted’s complaint. If he is talking > about the incident that I think he is, it happened years before Hortonworks > was founded. (I wasn’t there, but I have heard the story from those who > were.) He was at

Re: Distributing ASF Material

2016-08-17 Thread Alan Gates
I would like to add some context to Ted’s complaint. If he is talking about the incident that I think he is, it happened years before Hortonworks was founded. (I wasn’t there, but I have heard the story from those who were.) He was at a Hadoop User Group promoting MapR’s proprietary file syst

Re: Distributing ASF Material

2016-08-17 Thread Alex Harui
On 8/17/16, 1:00 AM, "Sharan Foga" wrote: >Hi > >It sounds like there are mixed feelings about allowing this so I will >respond back to them saying that we'd prefer that they don't distribute >any ASF material. From the peanut gallery: HW seems to be a big sponsor of the ASF. Either some in

Re: Distributing ASF Material

2016-08-17 Thread Sharan Foga
Hi It sounds like there are mixed feelings about allowing this so I will respond back to them saying that we'd prefer that they don't distribute any ASF material. Thanks Sharan On 2016-08-15 18:22 (+0200), Ted Dunning wrote: > I find the proposed situation very distasteful. Hortonworks mark

Re: Distributing ASF Material

2016-08-15 Thread Mark Thomas
On 15/08/2016 17:22, Ted Dunning wrote: > In the past, it has > even gotten to the point where a HW founder threatened me personally to get > me not to come to a user group meeting (I went anyway). Just a reminder to everyone subscribed to this list that the ASF has a code of conduct [1]. Det

Re: Distributing ASF Material

2016-08-15 Thread Ted Dunning
I find the proposed situation very distasteful. Hortonworks marketing and sales efforts have traditionally been oriented around on claiming effective control over Apache projects (tag lines like "We do Hadoop" can easily be canted to "WE do Hadoop" and historically it has been). In the past, it has

Re: Distributing ASF Material

2016-08-15 Thread Stian Soiland-Reyes
Great you are connecting with Women in Big Data! I think as long as they are not claiming association or endorsement it should be fine to redistribute ASF marketing material (which license do we have on those?), even if an ASF committer is not always there. Separation is the key, e.g. keep the AS

Re: Distributing ASF Material

2016-08-15 Thread Sharan Foga
Hi Rich I've just found out that the booth at Grace Hopper will actually be a Hortonworks one. They are a sponsor of Women in Big Data. I know the ASF prefer not to be aligned with any one company so am checking if this changes the situation. One idea they have suggested, is that they know th

Re: Distributing ASF Material

2016-07-29 Thread Rich Bowen
It is preferable to have someone able to answer questions, but I don't think we'd refuse. On Jul 26, 2016 9:00 AM, "Sharan Foga" wrote: > Hi All > > I was chatting yesterday to a contact from the Women in Big Data group > (WiBD) > > https://www.womeninbigdata.org/ > > and they mentioned that the