Re: A way to keep the name

2022-05-13 Thread Sam Ruby
; > The last words I could find on the subject (w/ a brief scan) were > > > March of 2021 > > > > > > - Chief Hoskins of the Cherokee Nation did request a name change from > > > Jeep. > > > - Jeep opened up talks, but they didn’t comply. > > > >

Re: A way to keep the name

2022-05-13 Thread Walter Cameron
kins of the Cherokee Nation did request a name change from > > Jeep. > > - Jeep opened up talks, but they didn’t comply. > > > > > > > > > > From: Roman Shaposhnik > > Reply: Roman Shaposhnik > > Date: May 9, 2022 at 09:52:47 > > To: me > &

Re: A way to keep the name

2022-05-12 Thread me
> Reply: Roman Shaposhnik <ro...@shaposhnik.org> > Date: May 9, 2022 at 09:52:47 > To: me <m...@emangini.com> > Cc: ComDev <dev@community.apache.org> > Subject:  Re: A way to keep the name  > > On Mon, May 9, 2022 at 4:35 PM me <m...@emangini.com> wro

Re: A way to keep the name

2022-05-12 Thread rbowen
> Date: May 9, 2022 at 09:52:47 > To: me > Cc: ComDev > Subject:  Re: A way to keep the name  > > On Mon, May 9, 2022 at 4:35 PM me wrote:  > >   > > Roman, welcome to the party!  > > LOL! Thanks ;-)  > > > I think the scope of the risk (i

Re: A way to keep the name

2022-05-11 Thread me
a nation name), their circumstance has a much easier solution. Discontinuing an automobile “name” is a lot easier than rebranding an entire organization.  They can still be Jeep.  From: Bill Cole Reply: dev@community.apache.org Date: May 11, 2022 at 15:31:49 To: ComDev Subject:  Re: A way to

Re: A way to keep the name

2022-05-11 Thread Bill Cole
On 2022-05-11 at 14:56:13 UTC-0400 (Wed, 11 May 2022 14:56:13 -0400) me is rumored to have said: The scenario w/ Jeep is the most synonymous to Apache. (We are named for a tribe, rather than a synonymous term or epithet). I’m side stepping the logo for the moment.  The last words I could fin

Re: A way to keep the name

2022-05-11 Thread me
Cherokee Nation did request a name change from Jeep.  - Jeep opened up talks, but they didn’t comply. From: Roman Shaposhnik Reply: Roman Shaposhnik Date: May 9, 2022 at 09:52:47 To: me Cc: ComDev Subject:  Re: A way to keep the name On Mon, May 9, 2022 at 4:35 PM me wrote: > >

Re: A way to keep the name

2022-05-09 Thread Roman Shaposhnik
On Mon, May 9, 2022 at 4:35 PM me wrote: > > Roman, welcome to the party! LOL! Thanks ;-) > I think the scope of the risk (in terms of “what”) is fairly well understood. > Did you also estimate the probability of the risks? (i.e. likelihood?) IIRC mostly the likelihood. > Do you mind sharing

Re: A way to keep the name

2022-05-09 Thread me
@community.apache.org Date: May 9, 2022 at 05:46:43 To: ComDev Subject:  Re: A way to keep the name On Thu, May 5, 2022 at 6:54 PM me wrote: > > > > > Subject: Re: A way to keep the name > > I think it's a good idea to make such a fund or simply make sure

Re: A way to keep the name

2022-05-09 Thread Roman Shaposhnik
On Thu, May 5, 2022 at 6:54 PM me wrote: > > > > > Subject: Re: A way to keep the name > > I think it's a good idea to make such a fund or simply make sure that > existing efforts (TAC, Outreachy engagement) have some deliberate and > conscious actions in t

Re: A way to keep the name

2022-05-05 Thread me
. Personally, this is my primary concern (and core to my involvement.) From: Owen Rubel Reply: dev@community.apache.org Date: May 5, 2022 at 12:11:21 To: dev@community.apache.org Subject:  Re: A way to keep the name This issue still is that we are jumping the gun. Has any

Re: A way to keep the name

2022-05-05 Thread Owen Rubel
This issue still is that we are jumping the gun. Has any REPRESENTATIVE from the Apache Nation filed a complaint or reached out? You may be creating a problem that does not exist. If we are doing good will, it may be noticed and not seen as an issue. Apache Foundation is a non-profit and not a b

Re: A way to keep the name

2022-05-05 Thread me
Subject:  Re: A way to keep the name I think it's a good idea to make such a fund or simply make sure that  existing efforts (TAC, Outreachy engagement) have some deliberate and  conscious actions in this direction - knowing the past association - and  showing the respect and followin

Re: A way to keep the name

2022-05-05 Thread Jarek Potiuk
I think it's a good idea to make such a fund or simply make sure that existing efforts (TAC, Outreachy engagement) have some deliberate and conscious actions in this direction - knowing the past association - and showing the respect and following the original mindset of people who created the found

Re: A way to keep the name

2022-05-04 Thread Walter Cameron
> members of the Apache Nation (defined by the eight tribes) Choosing to use federal recognition as the litmus test for eligibility will exclude many impacted by ASF’s appropriation of the term. There are also state recognized tribes such as the Choctaw-Apache Community of Ebarb who don’t yet hav

Re: A way to keep the name

2022-05-04 Thread me
This was somewhat covered (at a much higher level).  This falls into the category of ‘association with permission’. It’s somewhere between disassociation and what Jeep is doing (which is to determine if a problem exists w/ the specific tribe.)  Each circumstance is unique. I looked through Jeep