On Fri, May 13, 2022 at 9:49 PM Walter Cameron <walter.li...@waltercameron.com> wrote: > > > YOU MUST NOT reach out to ANYONE on behalf of the Apache Software > > Foundation without coordinating with M&P. Without their approval, you > > are NOT authorized to speak on behalf of the ASF, or put yourself in a > > position where it appears that you are doing so. > > For those of us who don’t have access to the internal deliberations on this > topic can you offer any update? Is outreach something membership or M&P is > still interested in pursuing with regards to understanding the impact of > their brand? If so, what kind of outreach are they envisioning?
Permit me to rephrase Rich's request. Build a plan. Bring it before M&P (specifically Joe Brockmeier) prior to execution. > Gunalchéesh, > Walter - Sam Ruby > On Thu, May 12, 2022 at 4:36 AM <rbo...@rcbowen.com> wrote: > > > On Wed, 2022-05-11 at 14:56 -0400, me wrote: > > > This is more or less in line with what I think we’ve anticipated. I > > > really appreciate you providing the info. > > > > > > That said… to outreach or not to outreach… that is the question. > > > > So ... I have been staying out of this conversation rather > > intentionally for a number of reasons, but I feel I must speak up here. > > > > YOU MUST NOT reach out to ANYONE on behalf of the Apache Software > > Foundation without coordinating with M&P. Without their approval, you > > are NOT authorized to speak on behalf of the ASF, or put yourself in a > > position where it appears that you are doing so. > > > > > > Please forgive if I am coming across stronger than warranted here, but > > this is a line that you MUST NOT cross without the approval of M&P. > > > > Thanks. > > > > --Rich, with Board of Directors hat on. > > > > > > > > > > > I’m going to try to remain impartial in order to facilitate. (i.e. > > > this isn’t my opinion, I’m just trying to help move things forward). > > > > > > The scenario w/ Jeep is the most synonymous to Apache. (We are named > > > for a tribe, rather than a synonymous term or epithet). I’m side > > > stepping the logo for the moment. > > > > > > The last words I could find on the subject (w/ a brief scan) were > > > March of 2021 > > > > > > - Chief Hoskins of the Cherokee Nation did request a name change from > > > Jeep. > > > - Jeep opened up talks, but they didn’t comply. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > From: Roman Shaposhnik <ro...@shaposhnik.org> > > > Reply: Roman Shaposhnik <ro...@shaposhnik.org> > > > Date: May 9, 2022 at 09:52:47 > > > To: me <m...@emangini.com> > > > Cc: ComDev <dev@community.apache.org> > > > Subject: Re: A way to keep the name > > > > > > On Mon, May 9, 2022 at 4:35 PM me <m...@emangini.com> wrote: > > > > > > > > Roman, welcome to the party! > > > > > > LOL! Thanks ;-) > > > > > > > I think the scope of the risk (in terms of “what”) is fairly well > > > > understood. Did you also estimate the probability of the risks? > > > > (i.e. likelihood?) > > > > > > IIRC mostly the likelihood. > > > > > > > Do you mind sharing what the results were of the previous > > > > assessment? > > > > > > It was deemed to be low: primarily based on our historic use of the > > > name (we have been pretty respectful with it) and the fact that > > > whoever brings the lawsuit will have to have a standing. > > > > > > Thanks, > > > Roman. > > > > > > --------------------------------------------------------------------- > > To unsubscribe, e-mail: dev-unsubscr...@community.apache.org > > For additional commands, e-mail: dev-h...@community.apache.org > > > > --------------------------------------------------------------------- To unsubscribe, e-mail: dev-unsubscr...@community.apache.org For additional commands, e-mail: dev-h...@community.apache.org
