Re: [DISCUSS] ASF Mastodon instance?

2022-11-06 Thread Walter Cameron
Hi Niels, I don’t think it’s appropriate to further expand the impact of our improperly owned domain. Why risk people on social media confusing us with an Apache organization? Gunalchéesh, Walter On Sun, Nov 6, 2022 at 12:20 PM Niels Basjes wrote: > Hi, > > Given the recent events around twitt

Re: Locating the Items Needed for ASF Booth - New Orleans

2022-08-07 Thread Walter Cameron
I thought we were moving away from the “Apache Feather”? M&P has been using a featherless ASF logo on Twitter for weeks now and I assumed everyone was in agreement that it was a symbol of racial caricaturing and we’re better off not using it. Gunalchéesh, Walter On Sun, Aug 7, 2022 at 6:57 AM sh

Re: A way to keep the name

2022-05-13 Thread Walter Cameron
> YOU MUST NOT reach out to ANYONE on behalf of the Apache Software > Foundation without coordinating with M&P. Without their approval, you > are NOT authorized to speak on behalf of the ASF, or put yourself in a > position where it appears that you are doing so. For those of us who don’t have acc

Re: Naming/Branding: First Steps

2022-05-06 Thread Walter Cameron
> It might be worth doing some internal > research on Apache culture (nothing > exhaustive, but enough for us to understand > tribal values) before performing outreach (or > in the extreme, from performing it > altogether). At the very least this can help us > navigate away from areas that may indu

Re: A way to keep the name

2022-05-04 Thread Walter Cameron
> members of the Apache Nation (defined by the eight tribes) Choosing to use federal recognition as the litmus test for eligibility will exclude many impacted by ASF’s appropriation of the term. There are also state recognized tribes such as the Choctaw-Apache Community of Ebarb who don’t yet hav

Re: It’s time to change the name

2022-05-03 Thread Walter Cameron
e. > > > My intent was mostly to gauge/rally interest in a direction that is likely > to gain the most support and volunteers. > > If option 3 is your choice, then I suppose the next step is working with > members of ASF to determine specific scope of work? It's pro

Re: It’s time to change the name

2022-05-03 Thread Walter Cameron
d right now? I feel there is a logical flaw to the endeavor. If I’m misunderstanding something or you have other suggestions I’m all ears. Gunalchéesh, Walter On Tue, May 3, 2022 at 12:44 PM Sam Ruby wrote: > On Tue, May 3, 2022 at 4:20 PM Walter Cameron > wrote: > > > > Con

Re: It’s time to change the name

2022-05-03 Thread Walter Cameron
e any Indigenous connections to the term. As I’ve said before the label for this is called Indigenous erasure. As I’m sure you’ve all guessed I’m firmly in camp three. Am I missing any options here? On Sun, May 1, 2022 at 9:23 PM Walter Cameron < walter.li...@waltercameron.com> wrote: > In

Re: It’s time to change the name

2022-05-01 Thread Walter Cameron
In the interest of gathering data on the impact of the name beyond my own personal experience and understanding, is anyone aware of the details of past complaints about the name? Researching this topic I stumbled across a decade old thread that makes a lot of incorrect claims as I understand them

Re: It’s time to change the name

2022-04-30 Thread Walter Cameron
ith the Cherokee Tribe Leader and told > the Wall Street Journal: > > “At this stage, I don’t know if there is a real problem. But if there is > one, well, of course we will solve it.” > > > Do we have someone who can take this on? > > > > From: Walter Cameron >

Re: It’s time to change the name

2022-04-30 Thread Walter Cameron
a lot of orgs willing to invest in that. Fundraising can easily > turn > > > into contracting fees. (I also work for a pretty large global > consultancy > > > whose core values are heavily focused on DEI, I’d be happy to > socialize the > > > effort. PMs, Devs, UX,

Re: It’s time to change the name

2022-04-29 Thread Walter Cameron
eas for the indefinite future. This isn't even considering > > > > > > > downstream users of Apache software, either, who may or may > not > > adopt > > > > > > > a rename. These are some of the fairly intractable concerns > I've >

Re: It’s time to change the name

2022-04-27 Thread Walter Cameron
On Wed, Apr 27, 2022 at 6:40 PM Sam Ruby wrote: > Walter: what are you personally willing to volunteer to do? What is > your plan? What resources do you need? Honestly Sam the extent of my plan was to bring attention to this issue and the harms it’s caused. Beyond that I’m kinda winging it bu

It’s time to change the name

2022-04-27 Thread Walter Cameron
, and professional sports teams have changed their names and rebranded. It’s long past time for ASF to do the same. Gunalchéesh, Walter Cameron