Re: Mailinglists - a tool from the 90s?

2015-01-19 Thread Rich Bowen
On 01/19/2015 10:59 AM, Ross Gardler (MS OPEN TECH) wrote: Sounds promising, but everything showed as inactive, with no traffic on the demo link provided. The concept, as described, is good, I like Google groups because they are both a mailing list and a forum. If HyperKitty is something lik

Re: Mailinglists - a tool from the 90s?

2015-01-19 Thread Shawn Heisey
On 1/18/2015 5:34 AM, Benedikt Ritter wrote: > over at the Apache Commons Project, we have a long discussion about our > mailing lists. Are they to noisy? Should they be splitted up into sublists? > Should individual components go TLP? > IMHO Ben McCann summed up the core problem pretty well [1]. M

RE: Mailinglists - a tool from the 90s?

2015-01-19 Thread Ross Gardler (MS OPEN TECH)
Sounds promising, but everything showed as inactive, with no traffic on the demo link provided. The concept, as described, is good, I like Google groups because they are both a mailing list and a forum. If HyperKitty is something like that then it might be a good option. I'm assuming it continu

Re: Mailinglists - a tool from the 90s?

2015-01-19 Thread Pierre Smits
I believe we are forgoing the primary function of the mailing list solution (apart from the business requirements The ASF has defined, that led to the implementation of the solution). Its core function is to get a huge amount of messages out to an immensely large population in the shortest time pos

Re: Mailinglists - a tool from the 90s?

2015-01-19 Thread Rich Bowen
On 01/18/2015 08:18 AM, jan i wrote: Hi. I don“t like github/gitlab but agree it has advantages and disadvantages to mailing lists. One of the biggest and most important disadvantage is that not all projects use git and even less use github (even though admitted the number is climbing). I too

Re: Mailinglists - a tool from the 90s?

2015-01-19 Thread Rich Bowen
On 01/18/2015 07:34 AM, Benedikt Ritter wrote: Now I'm curious: Does anybody here really like the use of mailing lists? Or do we all simply go through the struggle of setting up filters etc. just because this is the way it has always been? Yes, I really like mailing lists. No, I've never foun

Re: Mailinglists - a tool from the 90s?

2015-01-19 Thread Bertrand Delacretaz
On Mon, Jan 19, 2015 at 11:48 AM, Rob Vesse wrote: > ...mailing lists are the most technologically neutral and accessible > platform for everyone to be able to participate in discussions... "Discussions" is the key word here - as I said there are much better models for Q&A today, and that's where

Re: Mailinglists - a tool from the 90s?

2015-01-19 Thread Rob Vesse
The core mantra of the ASF is "community over code" it is not purely about the code. One of the key functions of the mailing list IMO is to bring the community together in one venue and not require participants to have to go to multiple venues in order to understand what is going on with a project

Re: Mailinglists - a tool from the 90s?

2015-01-19 Thread Bertrand Delacretaz
On Mon, Jan 19, 2015 at 8:37 AM, Benedikt Ritter wrote: > ...I hadn't heard about mailing lists. It always > felt clumsy to me. I know github and twitter The one rule that I don't want to change at Apache is that all important discussions and all decisions of a project have to happen on the p

Re: Mailinglists - a tool from the 90s?

2015-01-19 Thread Stephen Connolly
On 19 January 2015 at 09:28, Konstantin Kolinko wrote: > 2015-01-19 11:31 GMT+03:00 Stephen Connolly < > stephen.alan.conno...@gmail.com>: > > On Monday, January 19, 2015, Benedikt Ritter wrote: > > > > I am not against additional views, just let me keep it all in my mail > > client *if I choose

Re: Mailinglists - a tool from the 90s?

2015-01-19 Thread Konstantin Kolinko
2015-01-19 11:31 GMT+03:00 Stephen Connolly : > On Monday, January 19, 2015, Benedikt Ritter wrote: > > I am not against additional views, just let me keep it all in my mail > client *if I choose to prefer a mail client for interaction* > > It would be great if I had an easier way to interact with

Re: Mailinglists - a tool from the 90s?

2015-01-19 Thread Stephen Connolly
On Monday, January 19, 2015, Benedikt Ritter wrote: > Hello, > > Guys, don't get me wrong, but you're sounding like a bunch of old man > talking about the good old days, where you did everything on the command > line. ;-) > I'm 29 and before Apache, I hadn't heard about mailing lists. It always >