On 01/18/2015 08:18 AM, jan i wrote:
Hi.

I don´t like github/gitlab but agree it has advantages and disadvantages to
mailing lists.
One of the biggest and most important disadvantage is that not all projects
use git and even less use github
(even though admitted the number is climbing).

I too find mailing lists outdated. Personally I favor forums, that offers
the same as a mailing list,
but do not require that I keep large archive on my computer just to be able
to reply (a better version
of markmail where I could reply, would really help here).

I do think it is important that we keep the history, I have often searched
in the archives for old discussions,
but a forum offers that too.

I would any day skip mailing lists, for a media that offers:
- online archives, which allows us to send mails without breaking threads
- is independent of any version control system (we discuss a lot of things
not related to sources)
- can replace all mailing list, focus here is on the private lists and
foundation lists.

Going away from mailing lists, would also mean not spending bandwidth on
sending tons of email every day, might make some of the other services
faster.


I've recently spoken with a number of people about HyperKitty, which is an attempt to merge mailing list with forum. You use the interface that works best for you - it's a traditional mailing list, but it has a slick web forum front end if that's what you prefer.

Unfortunately, it's part of MailMan3, which is not yet released, so it's not something we want to rely on. But something like that may be an option in the very near future, and give us the best of both worlds.

See https://lists.stg.fedoraproject.org/archives/ for a demo.

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