Re: GSOC application for ASF / last steps

2011-03-03 Thread Ulrich Stärk
Hey Norman, have you prepared a draft of the application already? Can we put this up somewhere for review/amending? In case you want to add me to the list of co-admins, my melange link_id is uli. Uli On 01.03.2011 20:10, Norman Maurer wrote: > Hi there, > > I plan to submit the application fo

Re: [GSOC] Tags for tasks etc

2011-03-03 Thread Norman Maurer
I would be in favor to just use "gsoc2011" as label and ignore the rest. Bye, Norman 2011/3/3 Ulrich Stärk > +1 for using JIRA labels and creating a filter. I can do that. > > There are loads of issues labeled with just "gsoc": [1]. Some of those have > GSoC 2010 in their > title, some just GSo

Re: GSOC application for ASF / last steps

2011-03-03 Thread Ulrich Stärk
Indeed ;) On 03.03.2011 20:21, Noirin Shirley wrote: > Excellent :-) Please ask your chair to mention the ASF as a ... I'm > not sure what they're calling it? > > In return, you'll be expected to "mentor the mentors" a little bit, be > available if they have questions (you can bring them back her

Sorry, please take me off

2011-03-03 Thread Rebecca Jane
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Re: [GSOC] Tags for tasks etc

2011-03-03 Thread Ulrich Stärk
+1 for using JIRA labels and creating a filter. I can do that. There are loads of issues labeled with just "gsoc": [1]. Some of those have GSoC 2010 in their title, some just GSoC, some none of these. These most likely are from the last year(s) and we need to decide whether just to reuse them, c

Re: GSOC application for ASF / last steps

2011-03-03 Thread Noirin Shirley
Excellent :-) Please ask your chair to mention the ASF as a ... I'm not sure what they're calling it? In return, you'll be expected to "mentor the mentors" a little bit, be available if they have questions (you can bring them back here if you don't know the answers), etc. If it's a research projec

Re: GSOC application for ASF / last steps

2011-03-03 Thread Ulrich Stärk
Then I'd shamelessly like to add my chair's research project Saros [1],[2] to that list ;). Saros is an Eclipse plugin to add collaborative editing features (and others) to Eclipse. Uli [1] http://www.saros-project.org/ [2] http://dpp.sf.net/ On 03.03.2011 19:30, Noirin Shirley wrote: > Yep, it

Re: GSOC application for ASF / last steps

2011-03-03 Thread Noirin Shirley
Yep, it sure does! It could be anything from three people with some code on Google Project Hosting, to a full-blown incorporated non-profit whatever :-) And yes, it should be someone who's preparing/willing to apply :-) Noirin On Thu, Mar 3, 2011 at 1:39 PM, Ulrich Stärk wrote: > Does that inclu

Re: [VOTE] open ComDev SVN access to all committers

2011-03-03 Thread Tiago Espinha
[X ] +1 grant commit rights to ComDev site directory to all committers

Re: [GSOC] Tags for tasks etc

2011-03-03 Thread Kathey Marsden
On 3/3/2011 9:05 AM, Norman Maurer wrote: Hi there, this email is mostly for the co-admins. How you guys thing it makes most sense to manage tasks for GSOC. JIRA 4.x has labels build in so I think we should just use them. +1 to using Jira labels. Should it be the gsoc2011 label? right now ther

[GSOC] Tags for tasks etc

2011-03-03 Thread Norman Maurer
Hi there, this email is mostly for the co-admins. How you guys thing it makes most sense to manage tasks for GSOC. JIRA 4.x has labels build in so I think we should just use them. For projects that use Bugzilla I suggest we go the way Ross told us todo. So just ask them to create the tasks in JIRA

Re: GSOC application for ASF / last steps

2011-03-03 Thread Norman Maurer
As far as I understood it help to get new orgs/projects into GSOC. So for example some project which is hosted on sourceforge or something like that. Bye, Norman 2011/3/3 Ulrich Stärk : > Does that include small projects that haven't participated before but are > already preparing to apply > for

Re: [VOTE] open ComDev SVN access to all committers

2011-03-03 Thread Kathey Marsden
On 3/3/2011 6:50 AM, Ross Gardler wrote: [X ] +1 grant commit rights to ComDev site directory to all committers

Re: [VOTE] open ComDev SVN access to all committers

2011-03-03 Thread Bertrand Delacretaz
[X ] +1 grant commit rights to ComDev site directory to all committers -Bertrand

Re: [VOTE] open ComDev SVN access to all committers

2011-03-03 Thread jean-frederic clere
On 03/03/2011 03:50 PM, Ross Gardler wrote: [X] +1 grant commit rights to ComDev site directory to all committers Cheers Jean-Frederic

Re: [VOTE] open ComDev SVN access to all committers

2011-03-03 Thread Noirin Shirley
+1 grant commit rights to ComDev site directory to all committers

Re: The theory of retreats

2011-03-03 Thread Nick Burch
On Thu, 3 Mar 2011, Christian Grobmeier wrote: btw, whats ml are using? I would like to subscribe, if possible For retreats, it's normally concom@ and retreats@. For barcamps, generally it's concom@ for the initial proposal, then an event specific one for the organising. Nick

Re: [VOTE] open ComDev SVN access to all committers

2011-03-03 Thread Nick Burch
On Thu, 3 Mar 2011, Ross Gardler wrote: In my opinion anyone who has commit access to one or more ASF projects should also be allowed to commit to our site. Publication will be limited to ComDev PMC members. Joe has confirmed in a previous thread that this is possible. I'm +1 - grant commit r

Re: GSoC timeline updated

2011-03-03 Thread Antoine Levy-Lambert
Thanks Uli and Ross, Antoine On 3/3/2011 10:09 AM, Ulrich Stärk wrote: I guess the first step would be to identify issues and somehow tag/label them. I'm not a Bugzilla user, can you tag/label issues and create a bookmarkable search for issues with theses tags/labels in Bugzilla? code-awar

Re: GSoC timeline updated

2011-03-03 Thread Ross Gardler
On 03/03/2011 15:09, Ulrich Stärk wrote: I guess the first step would be to identify issues and somehow tag/label them. I'm not a Bugzilla user, can you tag/label issues and create a bookmarkable search for issues with theses tags/labels in Bugzilla? -1 on using bugzilla for the reasons given

Re: GSoC timeline updated

2011-03-03 Thread Ulrich Stärk
I guess the first step would be to identify issues and somehow tag/label them. I'm not a Bugzilla user, can you tag/label issues and create a bookmarkable search for issues with theses tags/labels in Bugzilla? code-awards is a private, committers-only list. Subscription is via code-awards-subscr

Re: GSoC timeline updated

2011-03-03 Thread Ross Gardler
On 03/03/2011 14:54, Antoine Levy-Lambert wrote: What are the steps to offer two GSOC projects for Ant ? Can we enter our GSOC issues in bugzilla ? This has yet to be defined by this years admin team. However, based on previous years you will not be able to use bugzilla since we need to be ab

Re: [VOTE] open ComDev SVN access to all committers

2011-03-03 Thread Antoine Levy-Lambert
On 3/3/2011 9:52 AM, Ross Gardler wrote: Blast, I just realised the email subject is too broad. For clarity, as the text of this vote says, we are talking about opening commit access to the site directory only, not the whole of our SVN tree. +1 grant commit rights to ComDev site directory to

Re: GSoC timeline updated

2011-03-03 Thread Antoine Levy-Lambert
What are the steps to offer two GSOC projects for Ant ? Can we enter our GSOC issues in bugzilla ? Is the code-awards list archived somewhere ? I did not see on http://mail-archives.apache.org/mod_mbox/ What is the subscription email address for code-awards ? Regards, Antoine On 3/3/2011 9

Re: [VOTE] open ComDev SVN access to all committers

2011-03-03 Thread Ross Gardler
Blast, I just realised the email subject is too broad. For clarity, as the text of this vote says, we are talking about opening commit access to the site directory only, not the whole of our SVN tree. On 03/03/2011 14:50, Ross Gardler wrote: Recently we moved to the CMS for our website. One o

[VOTE] open ComDev SVN access to all committers

2011-03-03 Thread Ross Gardler
Recently we moved to the CMS for our website. One of the side effects of this is that we have to grant commit access to allow people to edit the site. Technically this means we need to take a vote before any edits can be made. This is not a very good idea in my opinion. We should be encouragi

Re: GSoC timeline updated

2011-03-03 Thread Norman Maurer
Thanks Uli. Bye Norman 2011/3/3, Ulrich Stärk : > I just updated the timeline at http://community.apache.org/gsoc.html for > GSoC 2011. Our own > deadlines have yet to be added. > > Uli >

Re: The theory of retreats

2011-03-03 Thread Christian Grobmeier
> Right now we are using a mailing list hosted by Isabel Drost. Not everyone > has a XING account, > though, so a mailing list might be better suited. Or is there a way to hook > up a mailing list with a > XING group? No, no way to combine this. Guess it will get more visibility through such a g

Publicising events (was Re: The theory of retreats)

2011-03-03 Thread Ross Gardler
On 03/03/2011 14:34, Christian Grobmeier wrote: Are you using XING or similar to announce/organize the event? If a XING group is used, people can follow (like me). And probably other events like a bavaria barcamp could join teh group too I've copied this to ConCom as it's not our responsibility

GSoC timeline updated

2011-03-03 Thread Ulrich Stärk
I just updated the timeline at http://community.apache.org/gsoc.html for GSoC 2011. Our own deadlines have yet to be added. Uli

Re: The theory of retreats

2011-03-03 Thread Ulrich Stärk
Right now we are using a mailing list hosted by Isabel Drost. Not everyone has a XING account, though, so a mailing list might be better suited. Or is there a way to hook up a mailing list with a XING group? Uli On 03.03.2011 15:34, Christian Grobmeier wrote: > Are you using XING or similar to

Re: The theory of retreats

2011-03-03 Thread Christian Grobmeier
> Can you get either 3 apache committers, or 2 apache committers + 2 others to > agree to help run a one day BarCamp in Bavaria? (BarCamps are probably > easier and cheaper to put on than Retreats) Hm why not? I will see if I can find some other interested people from the south. For sure it would

Re: The theory of retreats

2011-03-03 Thread Christian Grobmeier
Are you using XING or similar to announce/organize the event? If a XING group is used, people can follow (like me). And probably other events like a bavaria barcamp could join teh group too On Thu, Mar 3, 2011 at 2:59 PM, Ulrich Stärk wrote: > We are doing something like this in Berlin already: e

Re: Commit karma

2011-03-03 Thread Ross Gardler
Thanks Joe, That's easy enough. I'll take it from here. Ross On 03/03/2011 14:32, Joe Schaefer wrote: Index: asf-authorization-template === --- asf-authorization-template(revision 786417) +++ asf-authorization-template(wor

Re: Commit karma

2011-03-03 Thread Joe Schaefer
Index: asf-authorization-template === --- asf-authorization-template(revision 786417) +++ asf-authorization-template(working copy) @@ -450,6 +450,9 @@ [/comdev] @comdev= rw +[/comdev/site] +@committers = rw + [/committers]

Re: Commit karma

2011-03-03 Thread Ross Gardler
On 03/03/2011 14:24, Joe Schaefer wrote: Why not manage the site the way the www site is managed and open up commit access to all committers? You can restrict actual publication to comdev folks. That sounds like a great suggestion. How do I make that happen? Once I understand the process I'l

Re: Commit karma

2011-03-03 Thread Joe Schaefer
Why not manage the site the way the www site is managed and open up commit access to all committers? You can restrict actual publication to comdev folks. - Original Message > From: Ross Gardler > To: dev@community.apache.org > Sent: Thu, March 3, 2011 9:18:05 AM > Subject: Re: Commit

Re: Commit karma

2011-03-03 Thread Ross Gardler
OK, technically we need to vote for this. I didn't think about this limitation when we moved from Confluence to the CMS. However, I don't think we need to worry about it since we don't do releases of code in this project. I'll add you and call the vote. If anyone should object then I'll remov

Re: The theory of retreats

2011-03-03 Thread Ross Gardler
On 03/03/2011 13:54, Christian Grobmeier wrote: I feel simliar to Benson. Ireland is very nice, but it has a very high cost on time. I just took a look at the committers map. Wasn't there an effort before to bring together Apache people (and interested) in a specific area? 10 people from bavaria

Re: The theory of retreats

2011-03-03 Thread Ross Gardler
On 03/03/2011 13:45, Benson Margulies wrote: Well, thing #1, I missed the weekend aspect. So I'm effectively 50% nuts. I'd put it much higher than that having met you ;-) Ross

Re: The theory of retreats

2011-03-03 Thread Nick Burch
On Thu, 3 Mar 2011, Christian Grobmeier wrote: 10 people from bavaria can make it in one day to an event and back. Cost should be very low. Of course not the same as a big meet'n'greet in ireland, but it might help people coming into apache or finally meet at least the people near you. From bav

Re: The theory of retreats

2011-03-03 Thread Ulrich Stärk
We are doing something like this in Berlin already: every month or so we meet for an Apache Dinner. Usually there are 2-4 members, 6 or so committers and a few guests, all from the area. Uli On 03.03.2011 14:54, Christian Grobmeier wrote: > I feel simliar to Benson. Ireland is very nice, but it

Re: The theory of retreats

2011-03-03 Thread Christian Grobmeier
I feel simliar to Benson. Ireland is very nice, but it has a very high cost on time. I just took a look at the committers map. Wasn't there an effort before to bring together Apache people (and interested) in a specific area? 10 people from bavaria can make it in one day to an event and back. Cost

Re: The theory of retreats

2011-03-03 Thread Benson Margulies
I have interest, but I have a very, very, strong priority toward family on free time, and it's not so easy to transport the skating competitions, piano lessons, and other family weekend activities to Ireland. Aide from the fact that, as part of that priority, I tend to want to spend the time with t

Re: The theory of retreats

2011-03-03 Thread Benson Margulies
Well, thing #1, I missed the weekend aspect. So I'm effectively 50% nuts. I mean 'selection' in the 'self-selection' sense of the term. I confess that I don't have a suggestion. I wish I'd started by asking about who turns up. A few days ago, we had a load of anti-corporate messages on the incuba

Re: The theory of retreats

2011-03-03 Thread Nick Burch
On Thu, 3 Mar 2011, Benson Margulies wrote: To me, however, the issue is the *time*, not the money. If I use vacation time for such a thing, I'm going to get some pretty hairy eyeballs across the dining room table from the my spouse and kids. If I use work time, I have to justify the time, and

Re: The theory of retreats

2011-03-03 Thread Ross Gardler
On 03/03/2011 13:30, Benson Margulies wrote: I'm a little puzzled by the retreats. Retreats are managed by ConCom not by ComDev. Having said that I don't see any harm on this discussion here, just be aware that we are discussing in a broader space and should feed back any conclusions to ConC

Re: Commit karma

2011-03-03 Thread Ulrich Stärk
uli On 03.03.2011 14:33, Ross Gardler wrote: > On 03/03/2011 13:15, Ulrich Stärk wrote: >> I just wanted to update the GSoC page with the 2011 timeline but I don't >> have commit karma. Can >> someone please grant it to me? > > What is you availid? > > Ross

Re: Commit karma

2011-03-03 Thread Ross Gardler
On 03/03/2011 13:15, Ulrich Stärk wrote: I just wanted to update the GSoC page with the 2011 timeline but I don't have commit karma. Can someone please grant it to me? What is you availid? Ross

The theory of retreats

2011-03-03 Thread Benson Margulies
I'm a little puzzled by the retreats. On the one hand, the members and incubator lists have a constant stream of commentary of one snarkiness or another about our focus on individuals, rather than corporations. Then we have the retreats, which to me seem to select people with very strong corporate

Commit karma

2011-03-03 Thread Ulrich Stärk
I just wanted to update the GSoC page with the 2011 timeline but I don't have commit karma. Can someone please grant it to me? Thanks, Uli

Re: GSOC application for ASF / last steps

2011-03-03 Thread Ulrich Stärk
Does that include small projects that haven't participated before but are already preparing to apply for this year? Uli On 01.03.2011 20:15, Noirin Shirley wrote: > Before we finally submit the application... > > It's my understanding that it now has one new question: do we know of > any small/