Re: [math] Version mgt idea

2015-11-16 Thread Ole Ersoy
On 11/13/2015 08:12 AM, Gilles wrote: On Mon, 9 Nov 2015 10:34:43 -0600, Ole Ersoy wrote: If I'm interested in some functionality that is 'beta' then I first have to realize that it's 'beta'...Maybe just tag the branch beta. After that there's probably (Judging from the number of people commun

Re: [math] Version mgt idea

2015-11-13 Thread Gilles
On Mon, 9 Nov 2015 10:34:43 -0600, Ole Ersoy wrote: If I'm interested in some functionality that is 'beta' then I first have to realize that it's 'beta'...Maybe just tag the branch beta. After that there's probably (Judging from the number of people communicating here) 1/2 people interested. Isn

Re: [math] Version mgt idea

2015-11-09 Thread Ole Ersoy
If I'm interested in some functionality that is 'beta' then I first have to realize that it's 'beta'...Maybe just tag the branch beta. After that there's probably (Judging from the number of people communicating here) 1/2 people interested. Isn't it easier for them to just just check out the b

Re: [math] Version mgt idea

2015-11-08 Thread Peter Ansell
On 7 November 2015 at 03:17, Phil Steitz wrote: > Here is an idea that might break our deadlock re backward > compatibility, versioning and RERO: > > Agree that odd numbered versions have stable APIs - basically adhere > to Commons rules - no breaks within 3.0, 3.1, ..., 3.x... or 5.0, > 5.1... bu

Re: [math] Version mgt idea

2015-11-08 Thread Gilles
On Sun, 8 Nov 2015 14:29:31 +, sebb wrote: On 8 November 2015 at 13:50, Gilles wrote: On Sun, 8 Nov 2015 00:45:38 +, sebb wrote: So is the idea to change both the Maven artifact ID and package name for the beta releases? i.e. the stable releases would use Maven AID: commons-math4

Re: [math] Version mgt idea

2015-11-08 Thread sebb
On 8 November 2015 at 13:50, Gilles wrote: > On Sun, 8 Nov 2015 00:45:38 +, sebb wrote: >> >> So is the idea to change both the Maven artifact ID and package name >> for the beta releases? >> >> i.e. the stable releases would use >> >> Maven AID: commons-math4 >> package: org.apache.commons.ma

Re: [math] Version mgt idea

2015-11-08 Thread Gilles
On Sun, 8 Nov 2015 00:45:38 +, sebb wrote: So is the idea to change both the Maven artifact ID and package name for the beta releases? i.e. the stable releases would use Maven AID: commons-math4 package: org.apache.commons.math4 and beta releases: Maven AID: commons-math4-beta{n} package:

Re: [math] Version mgt idea

2015-11-07 Thread sebb
So is the idea to change both the Maven artifact ID and package name for the beta releases? i.e. the stable releases would use Maven AID: commons-math4 package: org.apache.commons.math4 and beta releases: Maven AID: commons-math4-beta{n} package: org.apache.commons.math4.beta{n} Have I got thi

Re: [math] Version mgt idea

2015-11-07 Thread Phil Steitz
On 11/7/15 2:15 PM, Phil Steitz wrote: > On 11/7/15 12:58 PM, James Carman wrote: >> As long as the maven coordinates follow suit, go for it. The community will >> let us know if it is a pain in the ass. Also, no need to worry about >> even/odd with this approach > I think its better to use the eve

Re: [math] Version mgt idea

2015-11-07 Thread Phil Steitz
On 11/7/15 12:58 PM, James Carman wrote: > As long as the maven coordinates follow suit, go for it. The community will > let us know if it is a pain in the ass. Also, no need to worry about > even/odd with this approach I think its better to use the even/odd approach with this package naming trick

Re: [math] Version mgt idea

2015-11-07 Thread James Carman
As long as the maven coordinates follow suit, go for it. The community will let us know if it is a pain in the ass. Also, no need to worry about even/odd with this approach On Sat, Nov 7, 2015 at 12:29 PM Gilles wrote: > On Sat, 7 Nov 2015 16:52:21 +0100, Emmanuel Bourg wrote: > > A roughly equi

Re: [math] Version mgt idea

2015-11-07 Thread Phil Steitz
On 11/7/15 10:29 AM, Gilles wrote: > On Sat, 7 Nov 2015 16:52:21 +0100, Emmanuel Bourg wrote: >> A roughly equivalent alternative would be to release beta artifacts >> until the API stabilizes and use a different base package and >> different >> Maven coordinates for each iteration. >> >> For examp

Re: [math] Version mgt idea

2015-11-07 Thread Gilles
On Sat, 7 Nov 2015 16:52:21 +0100, Emmanuel Bourg wrote: A roughly equivalent alternative would be to release beta artifacts until the API stabilizes and use a different base package and different Maven coordinates for each iteration. For example, commons-math 4.0-beta1 is released with the or

Re: [math] Version mgt idea

2015-11-07 Thread James Carman
On Fri, Nov 6, 2015 at 11:17 AM Phil Steitz wrote: > Here is an idea that might break our deadlock re backward > compatibility, versioning and RERO: > > Agree that odd numbered versions have stable APIs - basically adhere > to Commons rules - no breaks within 3.0, 3.1, ..., 3.x... or 5.0, > 5.1..

Re: [math] Version mgt idea

2015-11-07 Thread Emmanuel Bourg
A roughly equivalent alternative would be to release beta artifacts until the API stabilizes and use a different base package and different Maven coordinates for each iteration. For example, commons-math 4.0-beta1 is released with the org.apache.commons:commons-math4-beta1 coordinates and the clas

Re: [math] Version mgt idea

2015-11-06 Thread Gilles
On Fri, 6 Nov 2015 16:53:00 -0800, Gary Gregory wrote: On Fri, Nov 6, 2015 at 4:42 PM, Gilles wrote: On Fri, 6 Nov 2015 17:02:01 -0700, Phil Steitz wrote: On 11/6/15 4:46 PM, Gary Gregory wrote: On Fri, Nov 6, 2015 at 3:01 PM, Phil Steitz wrote: On 11/6/15 2:51 PM, Gary Gregory wrote:

Re: [math] Version mgt idea

2015-11-06 Thread Gary Gregory
On Fri, Nov 6, 2015 at 4:42 PM, Gilles wrote: > On Fri, 6 Nov 2015 17:02:01 -0700, Phil Steitz wrote: > >> On 11/6/15 4:46 PM, Gary Gregory wrote: >> >>> On Fri, Nov 6, 2015 at 3:01 PM, Phil Steitz >>> wrote: >>> >>> On 11/6/15 2:51 PM, Gary Gregory wrote: > On Fri, 6 Nov 2015 09:17:18

Re: [math] Version mgt idea

2015-11-06 Thread Gary Gregory
On Fri, Nov 6, 2015 at 4:02 PM, Phil Steitz wrote: > On 11/6/15 4:46 PM, Gary Gregory wrote: > > On Fri, Nov 6, 2015 at 3:01 PM, Phil Steitz > wrote: > > > >> On 11/6/15 2:51 PM, Gary Gregory wrote: > On Fri, 6 Nov 2015 09:17:18 -0700, Phil Steitz wrote: > > Here is an idea that mig

Re: [math] Version mgt idea

2015-11-06 Thread Gilles
On Fri, 6 Nov 2015 17:02:01 -0700, Phil Steitz wrote: On 11/6/15 4:46 PM, Gary Gregory wrote: On Fri, Nov 6, 2015 at 3:01 PM, Phil Steitz wrote: On 11/6/15 2:51 PM, Gary Gregory wrote: On Fri, 6 Nov 2015 09:17:18 -0700, Phil Steitz wrote: Here is an idea that might break our deadlock re ba

Re: [math] Version mgt idea

2015-11-06 Thread Phil Steitz
On 11/6/15 4:46 PM, Gary Gregory wrote: > On Fri, Nov 6, 2015 at 3:01 PM, Phil Steitz wrote: > >> On 11/6/15 2:51 PM, Gary Gregory wrote: On Fri, 6 Nov 2015 09:17:18 -0700, Phil Steitz wrote: > Here is an idea that might break our deadlock re backward > compatibility, versioni

Re: [math] Version mgt idea

2015-11-06 Thread Gary Gregory
On Fri, Nov 6, 2015 at 3:01 PM, Phil Steitz wrote: > On 11/6/15 2:51 PM, Gary Gregory wrote: > >> On Fri, 6 Nov 2015 09:17:18 -0700, Phil Steitz wrote: > >>> Here is an idea that might break our deadlock re backward > >>> compatibility, versioning and RERO: > >>> > >>> Agree that

Re: [math] Version mgt idea

2015-11-06 Thread Phil Steitz
On 11/6/15 2:51 PM, Gary Gregory wrote: >> On Fri, 6 Nov 2015 09:17:18 -0700, Phil Steitz wrote: >>> Here is an idea that might break our deadlock re backward >>> compatibility, versioning and RERO: >>> >>> Agree that odd numbered versions have stable APIs - basically >>> adhere

Re: [math] Version mgt idea

2015-11-06 Thread Gary Gregory
> > On Fri, 6 Nov 2015 09:17:18 -0700, Phil Steitz wrote: > >> Here is an idea that might break our deadlock re backward >> compatibility, versioning and RERO: >> >> Agree that odd numbered versions have stable APIs - basically >> adhere >> to Commons rules - no breaks w

Re: [math] Version mgt idea

2015-11-06 Thread Gilles
On Fri, 6 Nov 2015 12:21:46 -0700, Phil Steitz wrote: On 11/6/15 11:02 AM, Gilles wrote: On Fri, 6 Nov 2015 10:36:51 -0700, Phil Steitz wrote: On 11/6/15 10:31 AM, Gilles wrote: Hi. On Fri, 6 Nov 2015 09:17:18 -0700, Phil Steitz wrote: Here is an idea that might break our deadlock re backwar

Re: [math] Version mgt idea

2015-11-06 Thread Phil Steitz
On 11/6/15 11:02 AM, Gilles wrote: > On Fri, 6 Nov 2015 10:36:51 -0700, Phil Steitz wrote: >> On 11/6/15 10:31 AM, Gilles wrote: >>> Hi. >>> >>> On Fri, 6 Nov 2015 09:17:18 -0700, Phil Steitz wrote: Here is an idea that might break our deadlock re backward compatibility, versioning and RE

Re: [math] Version mgt idea

2015-11-06 Thread Luc Maisonobe
Le 06/11/2015 18:31, Gilles a écrit : > Hi. > > On Fri, 6 Nov 2015 09:17:18 -0700, Phil Steitz wrote: >> Here is an idea that might break our deadlock re backward >> compatibility, versioning and RERO: >> >> Agree that odd numbered versions have stable APIs - basically adhere >> to Commons rules -

Re: [math] Version mgt idea

2015-11-06 Thread Luc Maisonobe
Le 06/11/2015 18:18, sebb a écrit : > On 6 November 2015 at 16:17, Phil Steitz wrote: >> Here is an idea that might break our deadlock re backward >> compatibility, versioning and RERO: >> >> Agree that odd numbered versions have stable APIs - basically adhere >> to Commons rules - no breaks withi

Re: [math] Version mgt idea

2015-11-06 Thread Gilles
On Fri, 6 Nov 2015 10:36:51 -0700, Phil Steitz wrote: On 11/6/15 10:31 AM, Gilles wrote: Hi. On Fri, 6 Nov 2015 09:17:18 -0700, Phil Steitz wrote: Here is an idea that might break our deadlock re backward compatibility, versioning and RERO: Agree that odd numbered versions have stable APIs -

Re: [math] Version mgt idea

2015-11-06 Thread Phil Steitz
On 11/6/15 10:31 AM, Gilles wrote: > Hi. > > On Fri, 6 Nov 2015 09:17:18 -0700, Phil Steitz wrote: >> Here is an idea that might break our deadlock re backward >> compatibility, versioning and RERO: >> >> Agree that odd numbered versions have stable APIs - basically adhere >> to Commons rules - no

Re: [math] Version mgt idea

2015-11-06 Thread Gilles
Hi. On Fri, 6 Nov 2015 09:17:18 -0700, Phil Steitz wrote: Here is an idea that might break our deadlock re backward compatibility, versioning and RERO: Agree that odd numbered versions have stable APIs - basically adhere to Commons rules - no breaks within 3.0, 3.1, ..., 3.x... or 5.0, 5.1... b

Re: [math] Version mgt idea

2015-11-06 Thread Phil Steitz
On 11/6/15 10:18 AM, sebb wrote: > On 6 November 2015 at 16:17, Phil Steitz wrote: >> Here is an idea that might break our deadlock re backward >> compatibility, versioning and RERO: >> >> Agree that odd numbered versions have stable APIs - basically adhere >> to Commons rules - no breaks within 3

Re: [math] Version mgt idea

2015-11-06 Thread sebb
On 6 November 2015 at 16:17, Phil Steitz wrote: > Here is an idea that might break our deadlock re backward > compatibility, versioning and RERO: > > Agree that odd numbered versions have stable APIs - basically adhere > to Commons rules - no breaks within 3.0, 3.1, ..., 3.x... or 5.0, > 5.1... bu

[math] Version mgt idea

2015-11-06 Thread Phil Steitz
Here is an idea that might break our deadlock re backward compatibility, versioning and RERO: Agree that odd numbered versions have stable APIs - basically adhere to Commons rules - no breaks within 3.0, 3.1, ..., 3.x... or 5.0, 5.1... but even-numbered lines can include breaks - so 4.0 and 4.1 mi