Re: [ALL] Commons Parent - include Animal Sniffer?

2015-01-17 Thread Bernd Eckenfels
Hello, I have tested CP 37 with the multi module build of VFS as well. It worked with a Java7 build on windows. (I did not test if it detects wrong signatures, only that the build passes). I also commited the osgi bundle-plugin property I was talking about, from my POV it would be good if we can

Re: [math] suggestion: introducing getSummary method on descriptive statistics

2015-01-17 Thread Gilles
On Sat, 17 Jan 2015 10:16:31 -0700, Phil Steitz wrote: On 1/17/15 8:18 AM, Gilles wrote: On Thu, 15 Jan 2015 17:01:46 -0700, Phil Steitz wrote: On 1/15/15 4:41 PM, Gilles wrote: On Thu, 15 Jan 2015 15:09:29 -0700, Phil Steitz wrote: On 1/15/15 9:50 AM, Gilles wrote: On Thu, 15 Jan 2015 10:02

Re: [ALL] Too much traffic on the "dev" ML

2015-01-17 Thread Emmanuel Bourg
Le 17/01/2015 23:18, Phil Steitz a écrit : > Sorry for the hijack; but I agree this is noise that would be nice > to suppress. +1 I suggest to leave the bugs fixed and avoid closing them, that's useless. Emmanuel Bourg - To u

Re: [ALL] Too much traffic on the "dev" ML

2015-01-17 Thread sebb
On 17 January 2015 at 22:18, Phil Steitz wrote: > On 1/17/15 3:11 PM, sebb wrote: >> On 17 January 2015 at 16:29, Mark Fortner wrote: >>> Bulk JIRA changes prior to a release tend to swamp the list. Perhaps it >>> would be better to close the issue as the work is done. >> The convention is to res

Re: [ALL] Too much traffic on the "dev" ML

2015-01-17 Thread Phil Steitz
On 1/17/15 3:11 PM, sebb wrote: > On 17 January 2015 at 16:29, Mark Fortner wrote: >> Bulk JIRA changes prior to a release tend to swamp the list. Perhaps it >> would be better to close the issue as the work is done. > The convention is to resolve the issue when the work is done and close > the is

Re: [ALL][RDF] github Commons RDF vs. Apache Commons Sandbox RDF

2015-01-17 Thread James Carman
On Saturday, January 17, 2015, Stian Soiland-Reyes wrote: > > > Just rdf@commons should do? Its both a topic and a component. > What about floor wax? Dessert topping?

Re: [ALL] Commons Parent - include Animal Sniffer?

2015-01-17 Thread sebb
On 17 January 2015 at 19:35, Thomas Neidhart wrote: > On 01/14/2015 12:57 AM, sebb wrote: >> I've been experimenting with Animal Sniffer in NET as a basic check >> that the code does not try to use method etc which are not present in >> the target Java version. >> [For example, java.net.IDN requir

Re: [ALL] Too much traffic on the "dev" ML

2015-01-17 Thread sebb
On 17 January 2015 at 16:29, Mark Fortner wrote: > Bulk JIRA changes prior to a release tend to swamp the list. Perhaps it > would be better to close the issue as the work is done. The convention is to resolve the issue when the work is done and close the issues after the release. When bulk clos

Re: [ALL][RDF] github Commons RDF vs. Apache Commons Sandbox RDF

2015-01-17 Thread Stian Soiland-Reyes
On 15 Jan 2015 11:06, "Sergio Fernández" wrote: > Therefore my proposal for Commons RDF is the following: > > * Commons RDF proposes an API that addresses portability issues. I'd recommend to start form what we currently have at github which was actually designed by committee and both Jena and Se

Re: [ALL] Too much traffic on the "dev" ML

2015-01-17 Thread Ole Ersoy
On 01/17/2015 01:16 PM, Duncan Jones wrote: On 17 January 2015 at 16:59, Ole Ersoy wrote: GIlles, Well said as always. With respect to the goal of growing the community, I think everyone agrees that that's a good goal. So if we pick tools that developers are most likely to be used to, then t

Re: [ALL] Commons Parent - include Animal Sniffer?

2015-01-17 Thread Thomas Neidhart
On 01/14/2015 12:57 AM, sebb wrote: > I've been experimenting with Animal Sniffer in NET as a basic check > that the code does not try to use method etc which are not present in > the target Java version. > [For example, java.net.IDN requires Java 1.6+] > > Although the plugin is not fool-proof, i

Re: [ALL] Too much traffic on the "dev" ML

2015-01-17 Thread Duncan Jones
On 17 January 2015 at 16:59, Ole Ersoy wrote: > GIlles, > > Well said as always. > > With respect to the goal of growing the community, I think everyone agrees > that that's a good goal. > So if we pick tools that developers are most likely to be used to, then they > are more likely to join. > > T

Re: [math] suggestion: introducing getSummary method on descriptive statistics

2015-01-17 Thread Phil Steitz
On 1/17/15 8:18 AM, Gilles wrote: > On Thu, 15 Jan 2015 17:01:46 -0700, Phil Steitz wrote: >> On 1/15/15 4:41 PM, Gilles wrote: >>> On Thu, 15 Jan 2015 15:09:29 -0700, Phil Steitz wrote: On 1/15/15 9:50 AM, Gilles wrote: > On Thu, 15 Jan 2015 10:02:32 +0100, Adriean Khisbe wrote: >> Hi

Re: [ALL] Too much traffic on the "dev" ML

2015-01-17 Thread Ole Ersoy
GIlles, Well said as always. With respect to the goal of growing the community, I think everyone agrees that that's a good goal. So if we pick tools that developers are most likely to be used to, then they are more likely to join. The number of open source projects is growing everyday, and mo

Re: [ALL] Too much traffic on the "dev" ML

2015-01-17 Thread Mark Fortner
Bulk JIRA changes prior to a release tend to swamp the list. Perhaps it would be better to close the issue as the work is done. Mark On Jan 17, 2015 8:11 AM, "Gilles" wrote: > On Sat, 17 Jan 2015 16:36:55 +0100, Gilles wrote: > >> On Sat, 17 Jan 2015 15:00:34 +, sebb wrote: >> >>> On 17 Janu

Re: [ALL] Too much traffic on the "dev" ML

2015-01-17 Thread Gilles
On Sat, 17 Jan 2015 16:36:55 +0100, Gilles wrote: On Sat, 17 Jan 2015 15:00:34 +, sebb wrote: On 17 January 2015 at 14:23, Gilles wrote: On Fri, 16 Jan 2015 16:00:45 -0600, Ole Ersoy wrote: I agree - we're hung up on a clown from the 90s. It's so much simpler click watch on github and g

[all] bundle-plugin: excludeDependencies makes imports less useful

2015-01-17 Thread Bernd Eckenfels
Hello, I want to fix the imports (version, optional) of [vfs] in https://issues.apache.org/jira/browse/VFS-498 The bundle plugin we have configured in the [parent] pom.xml does "excludeDependencies=true". This leads to the situation that bnd can not extract any useful information for the imports

Re: [ALL] Too much traffic on the "dev" ML

2015-01-17 Thread Gilles
On Sat, 17 Jan 2015 15:00:34 +, sebb wrote: On 17 January 2015 at 14:23, Gilles wrote: On Fri, 16 Jan 2015 16:00:45 -0600, Ole Ersoy wrote: I agree - we're hung up on a clown from the 90s. It's so much simpler click watch on github and get notifications. Also stackoverflow has a much br

Re: [math] suggestion: introducing getSummary method on descriptive statistics

2015-01-17 Thread Gilles
On Thu, 15 Jan 2015 17:01:46 -0700, Phil Steitz wrote: On 1/15/15 4:41 PM, Gilles wrote: On Thu, 15 Jan 2015 15:09:29 -0700, Phil Steitz wrote: On 1/15/15 9:50 AM, Gilles wrote: On Thu, 15 Jan 2015 10:02:32 +0100, Adriean Khisbe wrote: Hi, Working on a project I had to capture current state o

Re: [ALL] Too much traffic on the "dev" ML

2015-01-17 Thread sebb
On 17 January 2015 at 14:23, Gilles wrote: > On Fri, 16 Jan 2015 16:00:45 -0600, Ole Ersoy wrote: >> >> I agree - we're hung up on a clown from the 90s. It's so much >> simpler click watch on github and get notifications. Also >> stackoverflow has a much broader Java community and having traffic

Re: [ALL] Too much traffic on the "dev" ML

2015-01-17 Thread Gilles
On Fri, 16 Jan 2015 21:50:59 +0100, Oliver Heger wrote: Am 16.01.2015 um 16:19 schrieb Duncan Jones: On 16 January 2015 at 14:54, Torsten Curdt wrote: Concerning [Math], when the possibility was raised, the majority thought that development within Commons had practical advantages (through shar

Re: [ALL] Too much traffic on the "dev" ML

2015-01-17 Thread James Carman
Well put!! On Saturday, January 17, 2015, Gilles wrote: > On Fri, 16 Jan 2015 16:00:45 -0600, Ole Ersoy wrote: > >> I agree - we're hung up on a clown from the 90s. It's so much >> simpler click watch on github and get notifications. Also >> stackoverflow has a much broader Java community and

Re: [ALL] Too much traffic on the "dev" ML

2015-01-17 Thread Gilles
On Fri, 16 Jan 2015 21:58:42 +0100, Emmanuel Bourg wrote: Le 16/01/2015 21:17, Gilles a écrit : Between 2014-10-21 and now, the count of messages addressed to one of the "commons" lists is 4387, that is an average of about 50 per day (1500 per month). How did you get that number? It's the

Re: [ALL] Too much traffic on the "dev" ML

2015-01-17 Thread Gilles
On Fri, 16 Jan 2015 16:00:45 -0600, Ole Ersoy wrote: I agree - we're hung up on a clown from the 90s. It's so much simpler click watch on github and get notifications. Also stackoverflow has a much broader Java community and having traffic go through it could benefit this community. I'm afrai

Re: [ALL][RDF] github Commons RDF vs. Apache Commons Sandbox RDF

2015-01-17 Thread Bruno P. Kinoshita
Hi Andy! > Jena can (and does) support multiple APIs over a common core. > > A commons-rdf API can be added along side the existing APIs; that means > it is not a "big bang" to have commons-rdf interfaces supported. That's great! Would the commons-rdf dependency go in jena-core/pom.xml? Is it

Re: [RDF] Updated Commons-RDF

2015-01-17 Thread Bruno P. Kinoshita
> I would very much like to see discussion of use cases so we understand > each others expectations and technical requirements. Minto's message > touches on this, about distribution and design for in-memory. At the moment we have a Hadoop cluster processing data scrapped from the Web. We use Op

Re: your opinion on commons-rdf proposal

2015-01-17 Thread Andy Seaborne
On Thu, Jan 15, 2015 at 9:01 AM, Minto van der Sluis mailto:mi...@xup.nl>> wrote: Hi Reto, Thanks for showing interest in my opinion. First of all the whole discussion around commons-rdf involves way to much religion. Religion as in: my implemention should be reference

Re: [RDF] Updated Commons-RDF

2015-01-17 Thread Andy Seaborne
On 14/01/15 18:34, Reto Gmür wrote: There has been an indirect reply here: https://github.com/commons-rdf/commons-rdf/issues/43, as the issue point to this thread I though to add a back-link but I would prefer to have a discussion here and to discuss about concrete code proposals I would very m

Re: [ALL][RDF] github Commons RDF vs. Apache Commons Sandbox RDF

2015-01-17 Thread Andy Seaborne
On 15/01/15 11:52, Bruno P. Kinoshita wrote: Hello! I feel like I can't help much in the current discussion. But just wanted to chime in and tell that I'm +1 for a [rdf] component in Apache Commons. As a commons committer I'd like to help. I started watching the GitHub repository and have su

Re: [ALL][RDF] github Commons RDF vs. Apache Commons Sandbox RDF

2015-01-17 Thread Andy Seaborne
On 16/01/15 00:29, Peter Ansell wrote: I hope there is no bad blood from the aborted effort last time. There were a variety of causes, including the reasons above but we all joined the GitHub discussion with the goal of hosting the project inside of the Apache Foundation and IMO Apache Commons is