Re: 4.9+ release

2016-06-17 Thread Raja Pullela
t;>>>> language features. Based on this proposal, the releases above would >>>> change >>>>> to the following: >>>>>> >>>>>> * 4.10 releasing on or about 28 August 2016 >>>>>> * 4.11 releasing on

Re: 4.9+ release

2016-06-16 Thread Rajani Karuturi
>>>> * 5.0.0 releasing on or about 18 December 2016 > >>>> * 5.1.0 release on or about 5 February 2017 > >>>> > >>>> I am in the process of moving my proposal into the wiki. If this > >>> approach is acceptable, I will reflect it there

Re: 4.9+ release

2016-06-16 Thread John Burwell
g on or about 18 December 2016 >>>>> * 5.1.0 release on or about 5 February 2017 >>>>> >>>>> I am in the process of moving my proposal into the wiki. If this >>>> approach is acceptable, I will reflect it there, and open a thread to >>

Re: 4.9+ release

2016-06-16 Thread John Burwell
gt; >>>> Thanks, >>>> -John >>>> >>>> >>>>> >>>> john.burw...@shapeblue.com >>>> www.shapeblue.com >>>> 53 Chandos Place, Covent Garden, London VA WC2N 4HSUK >>>> @shapeblue >>&

Re: 4.9+ release

2016-06-15 Thread ma...@exoscale.ch
f moving my proposal into the wiki. If this >>> approach is acceptable, I will reflect it there, and open a thread to >>> discuss 5.0.0. >>>> >>>> Thanks, >>>> -John >>>> >>>> >>>>> >>>> jo

Re: 4.9+ release

2016-06-15 Thread Rajani Karuturi
den, London VA WC2N 4HSUK > > > @shapeblue > > > > > > > > > On Jun 14, 2016, at 2:02 PM, Paul Angus > > wrote: > > >> > > >> +1 Daan. > > >> > > >> My recollection was that major version number changes w

Re: 4.9+ release

2016-06-15 Thread Daan Hoogland
Paul Angus > wrote: > >> > >> +1 Daan. > >> > >> My recollection was that major version number changes were only to be > triggered by breaks in backward compatibility (API). > >> > >> > >> Kind regards, > >> > >> Paul A

Re: 4.9+ release

2016-06-14 Thread ilya
t;> triggered by breaks in backward compatibility (API). >> >> >> Kind regards, >> >> Paul Angus >> >> paul.an...@shapeblue.com >> www.shapeblue.com >> 53 Chandos Place, Covent Garden, London WC2N 4HSUK >> @shapeblue >> >> >> &g

Re: 4.9+ release

2016-06-14 Thread John Burwell
shapeblue.com > www.shapeblue.com > 53 Chandos Place, Covent Garden, London WC2N 4HSUK > @shapeblue > > > > -Original Message- > From: Daan Hoogland [mailto:daan.hoogl...@gmail.com] > Sent: 14 June 2016 14:47 > To: dev > Cc: Rajani Karuturi > Subjec

RE: 4.9+ release

2016-06-14 Thread Paul Angus
- From: Daan Hoogland [mailto:daan.hoogl...@gmail.com] Sent: 14 June 2016 14:47 To: dev Cc: Rajani Karuturi Subject: Re: 4.9+ release You know that would require more then one byte for our minor version, Will. I would be very pleased to go to 5.0 before that time. On Tue, Jun 14, 2016 at 3:43

Re: 4.9+ release

2016-06-14 Thread Daan Hoogland
You know that would require more then one byte for our minor version, Will. I would be very pleased to go to 5.0 before that time. On Tue, Jun 14, 2016 at 3:43 PM, Will Stevens wrote: > Daan is just trying to get us to version 4.256. :P > > *Will STEVENS* > Lead Developer > > *CloudOps* *| *Clo

Re: 4.9+ release

2016-06-14 Thread Will Stevens
Daan is just trying to get us to version 4.256. :P *Will STEVENS* Lead Developer *CloudOps* *| *Cloud Solutions Experts 420 rue Guy *|* Montreal *|* Quebec *|* H3J 1S6 w cloudops.com *|* tw @CloudOps_ On Tue, Jun 14, 2016 at 9:41 AM, Daan Hoogland wrote: > -1 to what Wido said. None of those

Re: 4.9+ release

2016-06-14 Thread Daan Hoogland
-1 to what Wido said. None of those points warant a major release number upgrade. these should all be in 4.10, -.11, -12 etc. major incompatibilities like API refactor, dropping backend support for this or that hyporvisor or DB refactor are the things that warrant 5.0, IMNSHO On Tue, Jun 14, 2016

Re: 4.9+ release

2016-06-14 Thread Will Stevens
+1. :) On Jun 14, 2016 5:07 AM, "Wido den Hollander" wrote: > > > Op 14 juni 2016 om 10:55 schreef Rajani Karuturi : > > > > > > 4.10 or 5.0? > > > > I would say 4.10 > > > We are in the 4.* release cycle from a long time. > > Just wanted to check if anyone is planning on major changes which > wa

Re: 4.9+ release

2016-06-14 Thread Rohit Yadav
+1 to what Wido said. I think we should not be incrementing the major version unless we're breaking compatibility, introducing major UI/API/db changes. Regards, Rohit Yadav rohit.ya...@shapeblue.comĀ  www.shapeblue.com 53 Chandos Place, Covent Garden, London WC2N 4HSUK @shapeblue On Jun 14 2

Re: 4.9+ release

2016-06-14 Thread Nux!
+1 what Wido said -- Sent from the Delta quadrant using Borg technology! Nux! www.nux.ro - Original Message - > From: "Wido den Hollander" > To: "Rajani Karuturi" , dev@cloudstack.apache.org > Sent: Tuesday, 14 June, 2016 10:07:01 > Subject: Re: 4.9+ r

Re: 4.9+ release

2016-06-14 Thread Wido den Hollander
> Op 14 juni 2016 om 10:55 schreef Rajani Karuturi : > > > 4.10 or 5.0? > I would say 4.10 > We are in the 4.* release cycle from a long time. > Just wanted to check if anyone is planning on major changes which warrants > 5.0 > 5.0 should imho be: - Java 8 - Ubuntu 16.04 / systemd support

Re: 4.9 Release Management

2016-03-08 Thread Will Stevens
I need to talk to the other guys and start to work that out. We have to have at least one CI environment up and running that we can validate against before we will be able to have a clear timeline. This is a work in progress as we speak... *Will STEVENS* Lead Developer *CloudOps* *| *Cloud Solu

Re: 4.9 Release Management

2016-03-08 Thread Abhinandan Prateek
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Re: 4.9 Release Management

2016-03-08 Thread ilya
Will, Samir, Koushik and Patrick, Thanks for your commitment and energy. Regards ilya On 3/2/16 11:43 AM, Samir Agarwal wrote: > Kudos Will! > > I had received many private notes wondering if Accelerite will continue to > play a strong role in contributions to the community; here is your proof

Re: 4.9 Release Management

2016-03-03 Thread Daan Hoogland
People, I agree that CI is an important issue and I thank Will for taking owner ship. Will: Thank you. I will keep watching the builds.apache.org part of it and hammer on new or old :/s findbugs issues that come up. 4.9 and CI are not related directly. CI would be related to release process and no

Re: 4.9 Release Management

2016-03-02 Thread Koushik Das
Thanks Will for initiating the discussion on 4.9 release management. As already mentioned, I along with Patrick will be helping out Will with the release process. Having a reliable CI system is very important going forward. There are discussions already happening in the list related to it. I ag

Re: 4.9 Release Management

2016-03-02 Thread Ahmad Emneina
; > figure out. I know the feeling. :) > > > > We probably need to have a concensus around release cadence and stick to > > it for a while. Otherwise we're going to lose some credibility as > project. > > > > > > > > > > > > From: Will Steven

Re: 4.9 Release Management

2016-03-02 Thread Sebastien Goasguen
out. I know the feeling. :) >> >> We probably need to have a concensus around release cadence and stick to >> it for a while. Otherwise we're going to lose some credibility as project. >> >> >> >> >> >> From: Will Stevens >> Se

Re: 4.9 Release Management

2016-03-02 Thread Will Stevens
can do to help. > > - Si > > > From: Paul Angus > Sent: Wednesday, March 2, 2016 3:09 PM > To: dev@cloudstack.apache.org > Subject: Re: 4.9 Release Management > > That's good enough for me (tm). you're figurin

Re: 4.9 Release Management

2016-03-02 Thread Will Stevens
> > From: Will Stevens > Sent: 2 Mar 2016 20:46 > To: dev@cloudstack.apache.org > Subject: Re: 4.9 Release Management > > I don't think I can answer that at this time. My personal opinion is that > CI is more important than the release timeline, but others may not s

Re: 4.9 Release Management

2016-03-02 Thread Simon Weller
Will, You have our support! Let us know what we can do to help. - Si From: Paul Angus Sent: Wednesday, March 2, 2016 3:09 PM To: dev@cloudstack.apache.org Subject: Re: 4.9 Release Management That's good enough for me (tm). you're figuring ou

Re: 4.9 Release Management

2016-03-02 Thread Paul Angus
ent: 2 Mar 2016 20:46 To: dev@cloudstack.apache.org Subject: Re: 4.9 Release Management I don't think I can answer that at this time. My personal opinion is that CI is more important than the release timeline, but others may not share this opinion (as it is only my opinion). I am full s

Re: 4.9 Release Management

2016-03-02 Thread Will Stevens
I don't think I can answer that at this time. My personal opinion is that CI is more important than the release timeline, but others may not share this opinion (as it is only my opinion). I am full steam ahead trying to review what we have in place and the work that different parties have done o

RE: 4.9 Release Management

2016-03-02 Thread Paul Angus
Thanks for taking up the baton Will et al. Just for clarity - given that getting CI 'done' will take some time (mainly because of the state of the Marvin Tests and Marvin output) - are 'we' now dropping the monthly releases? [ShapeBlue] Paul Angus VP Technology ,

RE: 4.9 Release Management

2016-03-02 Thread Samir Agarwal
Kudos Will! I had received many private notes wondering if Accelerite will continue to play a strong role in contributions to the community; here is your proof! We wanted to take on the biggest pain points in the community, and see how we can make positive contributions. Koushik Das will work a