4.9 should only be released if it passes the CI tests... pardon the pun. On Wed, Mar 2, 2016 at 1:21 PM, Will Stevens <wstev...@cloudops.com> wrote:
> Yes, I understand and agree with you. On the flip side, the lack of CI has > been a thorn in our side for a long time and the increased cadence only > adds to this problem, so I am trying to walk a thin line here. > > Personally, if CI is the only thing I can contribute to ACS as the 4.9 RM, > I will be happy with that. It is a problem that has to be solved and > someone has to own it. > > *Will STEVENS* > Lead Developer > > *CloudOps* *| *Cloud Solutions Experts > 420 rue Guy *|* Montreal *|* Quebec *|* H3J 1S6 > w cloudops.com *|* tw @CloudOps_ > > On Wed, Mar 2, 2016 at 4:09 PM, Paul Angus <paul.an...@shapeblue.com> > wrote: > > > That's good enough for me (tm). you're figuring out what you need to > > figure out. I know the feeling. :) > > > > We probably need to have a concensus around release cadence and stick to > > it for a while. Otherwise we're going to lose some credibility as > project. > > > > > > > > > > > > From: Will Stevens <wstev...@cloudops.com> > > Sent: 2 Mar 2016 20:46 > > To: dev@cloudstack.apache.org > > Subject: Re: 4.9 Release Management > > > > I don't think I can answer that at this time. My personal opinion is > that > > CI is more important than the release timeline, but others may not share > > this opinion (as it is only my opinion). I am full steam ahead trying > to > > review what we have in place and the work that different parties have > done > > on CI to date. I am hoping to have a CI implementation setup in my > > environment soon, which will enable me to better assess the current state > > of affairs. > > > > There are a lot of moving parts involved and I will be the first to admit > > that I don't have a firm grasp on everything yet, so reviewing our Marvin > > test coverage and output is something I have not yet had a chance to > > tackle. > > > > Does that answer your question well enough? :) > > > > *Will STEVENS* > > Lead Developer > > > > *CloudOps* *| *Cloud Solutions Experts > > 420 rue Guy *|* Montreal *|* Quebec *|* H3J 1S6 > > w cloudops.com *|* tw @CloudOps_ > > > > On Wed, Mar 2, 2016 at 12:25 PM, Paul Angus <paul.an...@shapeblue.com> > > wrote: > > > > > Thanks for taking up the baton Will et al. > > > > > > Just for clarity - given that getting CI 'done' will take some time > > > (mainly because of the state of the Marvin Tests and Marvin output) - > are > > > 'we' now dropping the monthly releases? > > > > > > > > > [image: ShapeBlue] <http://www.shapeblue.com> > > > Paul Angus > > > VP Technology , ShapeBlue > > > d: *+44 203 617 0528 | s: +44 203 603 0540* > > > <+44%20203%20617%200528%20%7C%20s:%20+44%20203%20603%200540> | m: > > > *+44 7711 418784* <+44%207711%20418784> > > > e: *paul.an...@shapeblue.com | t: @cloudyangus* > > > <paul.an...@shapeblue.com%20%7C%20t:%20@cloudyangus> | w: > > > *www.shapeblue.com* <http://www.shapeblue.com> > > > a: 53 Chandos Place, Covent Garden London WC2N 4HS UK > > > Shape Blue Ltd is a company incorporated in England & Wales. 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I will be running point, but all three of us will be working > > together > > > as a unit for this release. > > > > > > Our main focus for this release is the integration of hardware > Continuous > > > Integration (CI) into the PR flow. Koushik and his team will be setting > > up > > > a CI environment which will be used for testing PRs and I will also be > > > setting up a CI environment for testing PRs. > > > > > > The details of the CI integration will be handled publicly, but we will > > > likely have to work with a minimum viable implementation initially and > > move > > > forward from there. Here are some of the key aspects of the CI which > are > > > top of mind for me. > > > > > > - Standardize a feedback mechanism to post the result of CI runs back > to > > > the relevant PR. I believe the best way to do this would be to post a > > > summary of the CI run in the PR thread on Github. With the existing > > > integration, this will then get pushed to the mailing list (since all > > > comments on a PR are pushed to the mailing list). > > > - Ideally, we will also make the CI logs available for the run. We are > > > still working out the details of how we do this, but we will likely be > > > pushing the logs to an object store with a cleanup window to remove the > > > logs after a set period of time (probably a week). This should give > > people > > > the opportunity to pull the logs if they are interested in the test > > > results, but will reduce the need for ever growing storage. > > > - In order to parallelize the CI operations, we will not be > automatically > > > kicking off a CI run for every PR for now. Instead, we will communicate > > > between us and each run distinct PRs so we can maximize the utilization > > of > > > our hardware. > > > > > > Some longer term goals of the CI in my mind are as follows: > > > > > > - I would like the core CI framework to be easily distributed and > > > accessible to anyone who has hardware available. This would enable > anyone > > > to setup a CI on their hardware and it would automatically be hooked up > > to > > > feedback the results to the Github PRs. I feel this is very important > > long > > > term because every individual or organization depends on a different > > > configuration and hardware setup, so it empowers them to validate their > > own > > > use case while adding value back to the community. > > > > > > Additional details will follow, namely the release schedule etc. > > > > > > Please contribute your ideas and feedback. > > > > > > Cheers, > > > > > > Will > > > Find out more about ShapeBlue and our range of CloudStack related > > services: > > > IaaS Cloud Design & Build > > > <http://shapeblue.com/iaas-cloud-design-and-build//> | CSForge – > rapid > > > IaaS deployment framework <http://shapeblue.com/csforge/> > > > CloudStack Consulting <http://shapeblue.com/cloudstack-consultancy/> | > > CloudStack > > > Software Engineering > > > <http://shapeblue.com/cloudstack-software-engineering/> > > > CloudStack Infrastructure Support > > > <http://shapeblue.com/cloudstack-infrastructure-support/> | CloudStack > > > Bootcamp Training Courses <http://shapeblue.com/cloudstack-training/> > > > > > Find out more about ShapeBlue and our range of CloudStack related > services: > > IaaS Cloud Design & Build< > > http://shapeblue.com/iaas-cloud-design-and-build//> | CSForge – rapid > > IaaS deployment framework<http://shapeblue.com/csforge/> > > CloudStack Consulting<http://shapeblue.com/cloudstack-consultancy/> | > > CloudStack Software Engineering< > > http://shapeblue.com/cloudstack-software-engineering/> > > CloudStack Infrastructure Support< > > http://shapeblue.com/cloudstack-infrastructure-support/> | CloudStack > > Bootcamp Training Courses<http://shapeblue.com/cloudstack-training/> > > >
