or a while to know that the barriers to entry are too
> > high
> >>>> as
> >>>> > they are. And telling anyone that they need to create a web server
> so
> >>>> that
> >>>> > they can add their in
; >
> >>>> > > > > > > > One question: if I read the code correctly it ‘go’es and
> >>>> > > > > > > > tries
> >>>> > > all
> >>>> > > > > > > mirrors
> >>>> > &
loud for a while to know that the barriers to entry are too
> high
>>>> as
>>>> > they are. And telling anyone that they need to create a web server so
>>>> that
>>>> > they can add their initial template to get started or in order to
>&
r to
> create
>>> a
>>> > new zone, just isn't going to fly.
>>> >
>>> > I'm a huge advocate of the 'download.cloudstack.org' endpoint which
the
>>> > community can add/remove mirrors to or from for system VMs or buil
gt; > > > I'm a huge advocate of the 'download.cloudstack.org' endpoint which
> > the
> > > > community can add/remove mirrors to or from for system VMs or
> built-in
> > > > templates. Can the same system be used for binary repos ? although
> > there
> > > > is
just isn't going to fly.
>>> >
>>> > I'm a huge advocate of the 'download.cloudstack.org' endpoint which the
>>> > community can add/remove mirrors to or from for system VMs or built-in
>>> > templates. Can the same system be used f
ch
> the
> > > community can add/remove mirrors to or from for system VMs or built-in
> > > templates. Can the same system be used for binary repos ? although
> there
> > > is an added complication of redist vs no-redist there...
> > >
> > >
> >
emplates. Can the same system be used for binary repos ? although
there
>> > is an added complication of redist vs no-redist there...
>> >
>> >
>> >
>> >
>> >
>> >
>> > paul.an...@shapeblue.com
>> > www.shapeblue.com
>&g
point which the
>> > community can add/remove mirrors to or from for system VMs or built-in
>> > templates. Can the same system be used for binary repos ? although there
>> > is an added complication of redist vs no-redist there...
>> >
>> >
>> >
;
> >
> >
> >
> >
> > paul.an...@shapeblue.com
> > www.shapeblue.com
> > 53 Chandos Place, Covent Garden, London WC2N 4HSUK
> > @shapeblue
> >
> >
> >
> >
> > -Original Message-
> > From: Chiradeep Vittal [mailt
e-
> From: Chiradeep Vittal [mailto:chirade...@gmail.com]
> Sent: 03 March 2017 18:28
> To: dev
> Subject: Re: Modern template hosting
>
> I do feel like this is early optimization. Mirrors rarely fail. I'd expect
> a single web server hosted on Apache Infra without any m
shapeblue
-Original Message-
From: Chiradeep Vittal [mailto:chirade...@gmail.com]
Sent: 03 March 2017 18:28
To: dev
Subject: Re: Modern template hosting
I do feel like this is early optimization. Mirrors rarely fail. I'd expect a
single web server hosted on Apache Infra witho
> > query the mirror list.
> > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > The web server will receive a request and will do a 302
> > > > > redirect
> > > > > > to
> > > > > > > > the
> > &g
rg'
> > > > > (or
> > > > > > > > whatever), but otherwise it should be pretty simple.
> > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > We can improve how we deliver templates going forward,
> but
> > >
7;
> >> downloads.cloudstack.org'
> >> > > (or
> >> > > > > > whatever), but otherwise it should be pretty simple.
> >> > > > > >
> >> > > > > > We can improve how we deliver templates going forward, but
> &
y us some
> > time
> > > > > with
> > > > > > an
> > > > > > > implementation which solves our problems today...
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > *Will STEVENS*
> > > > > > > Lead Developer
> > > > > > >
> > > >
; > > > implementation which solves our problems today...
>> > > > > >
>> > > > > > *Will STEVENS*
>> > > > > > Lead Developer
>> > > > > >
>> > > > > > <h
> >
> > > > > >>
> > > > > >> Initial seeding is a manual step and that is not going to
> > change
> > > > in
> > > > > near
> > > > > >> future. A handy list of official places from where these
> > > templates
> > > > >
> > > abhinandan.prat...@shapeblue.com> wrote:
> > > > > >
> > > > > >>
> > > > > >> Initial seeding is a manual step and that is not going to
> > change
> > > > in
> > > > > near
> > > > > >> future. A handy list o
s.
> > > > >>
> > > > >>
> > > > >> Coming to urls hard coded in db, the popular suggestion is to
> > > point
> > > > them
> > > > >> to mirrors. This looks good but this is going to take
; >>> > > >
> > > > >> >>> > > > > Hi will,
> > > > >> >>> > > > >
> > > > >> >>> > > > > I believe, we didn’t ge
the problem still remains for the
> > > releases that
> > > >> are already out there. In case access to download.cloud.com is
> > > dropped
> > > >> at some point we will have to document the procedure such that
> > > people know
> > >
officially adapted
> > with a
> > >> marketplace to pick up templates of choosing. Maybe we can have a
> > pre-setup
> > >> script to make choices instead of written wiki. Note that this
> will
> > be
> > >> anyway needed by the ol
iki. Note that this will
> be
> >> anyway needed by the older releases.
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >> On 01/03/17, 4:24 PM, "Paul Angus"
> wrote:
> >>
> >> >-1
> >> >
>>
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >> On 01/03/17, 4:24 PM, "Paul Angus"
> wrote:
> >>
> >> >-1
> >> >
> >> >We are trying to get MORE people to use CloudStack. And raising
>
>>
> >>
> >>
> >> On 01/03/17, 4:24 PM, "Paul Angus"
> wrote:
> >>
> >> >-1
> >> >
> >> >We are trying to get MORE people to use CloudStack. And raising
> the
> >> ba
>> >>> > wstev...@cloudops.com>
> >> >>> > > > > wrote:
> >> >>> > > > >
> >> >>> > > > > unfortunately the template mirror conversation got
> caught up
>
>Kind regards,
>> >
>> >Paul Angus
>> >
>> >paul.an...@shapeblue.com
>> >www.shapeblue.com
>> >53 Chandos Place, Covent Garden, London WC2N 4HSUK
>> >@shapeblue
>> >
>
>> >We are trying to get MORE people to use CloudStack. And raising the
>> barrier to entry does nothing to help that.
>> >
>> >
>> >Kind regards,
>> >
>> >Paul Angus
>> >
>> >paul.an...@shapeblue.com
>> >www.s
dos Place, Covent Garden, London WC2N 4HSUK
> >@shapeblue
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >-Original Message-
> >From: Abhinandan Prateek [mailto:abhinandan.prat...@shapeblue.com]
> >Sent: 01 March 2017 09:39
> >To: dev@cloudstack.apache.org
> >
apeblue
>
>
>
>
>-Original Message-
>From: Abhinandan Prateek [mailto:abhinandan.prat...@shapeblue.com]
>Sent: 01 March 2017 09:39
>To: dev@cloudstack.apache.org
>Subject: Re: Modern template hosting
>
>+1
>
>After seeing this discussion running
: Abhinandan Prateek [mailto:abhinandan.prat...@shapeblue.com]
Sent: 01 March 2017 09:39
To: dev@cloudstack.apache.org
Subject: Re: Modern template hosting
+1
After seeing this discussion running in circles several times, I think we
should at least get started with the simplest option.
On 27/02/17
> > > > >
>> > > > > > For Trillian, we've copied all of the templates that people have
>> > > define
>> > > > > to
>> > > > > > a local repo and then replace the URLs in test_data.py to reduce
>>
gt; > > > > > > > gets
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > a 200 and if it does, it would do a 302
> > redirect.
> > > > > > > > &g
; > up
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > and
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > then doing a redirect.
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > - If we want to get fancy, we could do a
> re
gt; > > > > > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > Thoughts?
> > > > > > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > > > > &
t; > > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > What steps are needed to set up a mirror? What
> does
> > > > Infra
> > > > > > > need
> > > > > > > > to
&g
> > > > > > > > > On Sun, Feb 26, 2017 at 10:17 PM, Raja Pullela <
> > > > > > > > > > > > > raja.pull...@accelerite.com>
> > > > > > > > > > > > > wrote
Pierre-Luc did an amazing job in getting
https://builds.cloudstack.org/ working [1].
We can work on similar lines and probably get
packages.cloudstack.org working with mirrored entries form
apt-get.eu or openvm.eu or s3.downloads.accelerite or
packages.shapeblue etc.
[1] https://issues.apache.org
On Tue, Feb 28, 2017 at 8:59 AM, Daan Hoogland wrote:
> On Tue, Feb 28, 2017 at 2:40 AM, Pierre-Luc Dion wrote:
>> For our systemvm templates, can we just change the URL for somthing like
>> cloudstack.apache.org/systemvm/... ?
>
> I agree,
> is there any change we can host a domain for this at a
On Tue, Feb 28, 2017 at 2:40 AM, Pierre-Luc Dion wrote:
> For our systemvm templates, can we just change the URL for somthing like
> cloudstack.apache.org/systemvm/... ?
I agree,
is there any change we can host a domain for this at apache, if we
can't keep downloads.cloud.com then maybe downloads
; raja.pull...@accelerite.com>
> > > > > > > > > > > > > wrote:
> > > > > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > Hi will,
> > > > > > > > > > > &
t; > > > > > > > > > cloudstack-apt.get.eu (I think Nux manages this?)
> > has
> > > > > > all/most
> > > > > > > > of
> > > > > > > > > > the
> > > > > > > > > > > &g
> > > > content, I
> > > > > > > > > > > > can help assist getting the content there.
> > > > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > > > For now, we have replicated the download.cloud.com
&
ne in about a week’s time
> on
> > > the
> > > > > > > > details.
> > > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > > Best,
> > > > > > > > > > > Raja Pullela
> >
t; Will
> > > > > > > > > > Stevens" > > > > > > wstev...@cloudops.com>
> > > > > > > > > > wrote:
> > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > unfortunately the template
; > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > On 2/24/17, 11:23 PM, "williamstev...@gmail.com on
> behalf
> > of
> > > > > Will
> > > > > > > > > > Stevens" > > > > > > wstev...@cloudops.com&
> > > > > > > > citrix has been pinging me every couple months to say
> 'dude,
> > we
> > > > > need
> > > > > > to
> > > > > > > > > remove the dependency on download.citrix.com', but i have
> > not
&
; > > > > > > > nobody took the lead on implementing a solution.
> > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > citrix has been pinging me every couple months to say
> 'dude,
> > we
> > > > > need
> > &
> > is
> > > > > > imminent
> > > > > > > > right now, so we need to solve it asap.
> > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > *Will S
>
> > > > > > > <https://goo.gl/NYZ8KK>
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > On Fri, Feb 24, 2017 at 12:38 PM, Paul Angus <
> > > > paul.an...@shapeblue.com
> > > > > >
> > > > > &g
PM, Paul Angus <
> > > > paul.an...@shapeblue.com
> > > > > >
> > > > > > > wrote:
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > Hi Nathan,
> > > > > > > >
> > > > > > >
; > Hi Nathan,
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > Ideally, if you put the template location in (or use a template
> > > > defined
> > > > > > > in) test_data.py then the actual location can be overridden by
> > > > anyone
> > > > > > > testing.
>
gt; > > > > use and download times.
> > > > > >
> > > > > > Ie:
> > > > > >
> > > > > > "bootableIso":
> > > > > > {
> > > > > >
mplates that people have
> > > define
> > > > > to
> > > > > > a local repo and then replace the URLs in test_data.py to reduce
> > > > > bandwidth
> > > > > > use and download times.
> > > > > >
> > > > > > Ie:
> > >
{
> > > > > "displaytext": "Test Bootable ISO",
> > > > > "name": "testISO",
> > > > > "bootable": True,
> > > > >
"bootable": True,
> > > > "ispublic": False,
> > > > "url": "{{ marvin_images_location
> > > > }}/TinyCore-current.iso",
> > > > "o
"ostype": 'Other Linux (64-bit)',
> > > "mode": 'HTTP_DOWNLOAD'
> > > },
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > > I thought that we had come up with a solution for download.cloud.com,
> by
> > > having a mirrorlist h
a mirror.
> > But I must admit I lost track of whether anyone made the requisite
> changes
> > in code
> >
> >
> >
> >
> > Kind regards,
> >
> > Paul Angus
> >
> > paul.an...@shapeblue.com
> > www.shapeblue.com
> > 5
Paul Angus wrote:
> Hi Nathan,
>
> Ideally, if you put the template location in (or use a template defined
> in) test_data.py then the actual location can be overridden by anyone
> testing.
>
> For Trillian, we've copied all of the templates that people have define
> to a local repo and th
a solution for download.cloud.com, by
> > having a mirrorlist hosted in Community Apache 'space' with anyone able to
> > out themselves forward as a mirror.
> > But I must admit I lost track of whether anyone made the requisite changes
> > in code
> >
> &
x27; with anyone able to
> > out themselves forward as a mirror.
> > But I must admit I lost track of whether anyone made the requisite changes
> > in code
> >
> >
> >
> >
> > Kind regards,
> >
> > Paul Angus
> >
> > paul.a
Chiradeep,
I wouldn't know, needs investigating. Could be that.
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> From: "Chiradeep Vittal"
> To: "dev"
> Sent: Sunday, 26 February, 2017 00:07:53
> Subje
Raja,
apt-get.eu is Wido's.
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> From: "Raja Pullela"
> To: "dev"
> Sent: Monday, 27 February, 2017 06:17:36
> Subject: Re: Modern template hosting
> H
peblue.com
> 53 Chandos Place, Covent Garden, London WC2N 4HSUK
> @shapeblue
>
>
>
>
> -Original Message-
> From: williamstev...@gmail.com [mailto:williamstev...@gmail.com] On
> Behalf Of Will Stevens
> Sent: 24 February 2017 16:30
> To: dev@cloudstack.a
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> - Original Message -
>> From: "Chiradeep Vittal"
>> To: "dev"
>> Sent: Saturday, 25 February, 2017 00:18:48
>> Subject: Re: Modern template hosting
>
&g
s the cloud.com ones.
Open to comments, questions etc.
Lucian
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> From: "Chiradeep Vittal"
> To: "dev"
> Sent: Saturday, 25 February, 2017 00:18:48
> Subject: Re: M
>> to
>> > out themselves forward as a mirror.
>> > But I must admit I lost track of whether anyone made the requisite
>> changes
>> > in code
>> >
>> >
>> >
>> >
>> > Kind regards,
>> >
>> > Paul
ution for download.cloud.com, by
> > having a mirrorlist hosted in Community Apache 'space' with anyone able
> to
> > out themselves forward as a mirror.
> > But I must admit I lost track of whether anyone made the requisite
> changes
> > in code....
> >
&
ade the requisite changes
> in code
>
>
>
>
> Kind regards,
>
> Paul Angus
>
> paul.an...@shapeblue.com
> www.shapeblue.com
> 53 Chandos Place, Covent Garden, London WC2N 4HSUK
> @shapeblue
>
>
>
>
> -Original Message-
> From: williamste
ul Angus
paul.an...@shapeblue.com
www.shapeblue.com
53 Chandos Place, Covent Garden, London WC2N 4HSUK
@shapeblue
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From: williamstev...@gmail.com [mailto:williamstev...@gmail.com] On Behalf Of
Will Stevens
Sent: 24 February 2017 16:30
To: dev@cloudstack.apache.or
this is a hard questions. in general, we should be setting up a mirror on
some cloudstack/apache domain and then mirror to other provided templates.
we MUST come up with a solution to deprecate 'download.cloud.com', that is
going to be going away any day now.
i don't know the right way to solve
So not to re-open a can of worms, but I’m in a situation where I need to
come up with a Marvin component test that depends on a template based on a
kernel that’s relatively new, i.e., newer than Centos 5.3 / Ubuntu 10.04 .
I see openvm.eu has a suitable template (Ubuntu 16.0.4 for KVM), but
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