1. If you are targeting legacy installations, they are not able to follow redirects. The line of code that added this capability was added on 11/16. 2. If you trust the users to edit the database to change the URL, you can trust them to change it to anything. Just document a known list of good template locations.
On Fri, Mar 3, 2017 at 8:13 AM, Will Stevens <wstev...@cloudops.com> wrote: > So the main issue I see with this is the following. > > This implementation is designed to target legacy installations which will > be affected when download.cloud.com disappears. These people will need to > make a DB change to replace the 'download.cloud.com' with some other url > (maybe 'download.cloudstack.org'). Once the DB has been updated, we can > not expect anything else of the client, they need to be able to just > continue operation as they were without any need to rebuild or upgrade > their ACS. > > If we try to force the decision to the client, then we break the legacy > implementations. Since the SSVM is likely going to be the client in some > cases, and since it does not already have the logic to handle the 300 > approach correctly, I feel like it is not a viable solution for the legacy > deployments. > > In addition to that. I don't think the client is in any better position to > make the mirror decision than I am. I am likely able to make a more > 'educated' decision than the client would be able to because I can do > different tests on the endpoint(s) before making a final decision. > > Does this make sense or am I missing something obvious? > > *Will STEVENS* > Lead Developer > > <https://goo.gl/NYZ8KK> > > On Fri, Mar 3, 2017 at 10:48 AM, Rafael Weingärtner < > rafaelweingart...@gmail.com> wrote: > > > I think I understood you, but I did not understand you. > > > > Let me see if I can create an example to illustrate how we could do using > > the HTTP 300 code. > > > > The HTTP 300 code indicates clients that he/she/it has multiple choices > to > > access the requested resource. If the request is a HEAD, this is the only > > thing that the server returns. If the request if a GET, then the server > > returns the choices for the client. The response type is defined on the > > server based on the Content-Type, user agent and others. > > > > Let’s say the server receives a GET request and informs the content-type > as > > JSON (application/JSON). Your application could get the mirrors list, do > > the appending process for the requested resource path, and then return a > > JSON array with the possible mirror the client can use. Then, the client > > gets this list and does the processing required to select a mirror. > > > > Now let’s say that a human access the link using a browser. Then, the > > server should receive something like (text/plain) as the content-type; I > > think depending on the browser this field may differ a little (it would > > require some checking). Anyways, the server detects that it is a “human” > > requesting the resource, then we could serve an HTML page with a > Javascript > > that uses the mirror list. This Javascript could do some checking and > > choose the best mirror for that specific. > > > > Why do I think this approach is interesting? > > The application you developed would be used only to retrieve valid and > > trusted sources of system VM images (a trusted repository for mirrors > that > > we as a community vouch for). Also, we shift the decision process > > regarding mirrors from the server to the client. Then, it is up to > clients > > to select mirrors, and not up to us (or some of our implementations). > > > > Did this help? > > BTW: I am not saying I am against the way you proposed, which would work > > fine. It is merely a suggestion using a different perspective. > > > > On Fri, Mar 3, 2017 at 10:23 AM, Will Stevens <williamstev...@gmail.com> > > wrote: > > > > > @rafael: in general, I don't think the client should ever be making a > > > choice about a mirror. We have to assume we are working with a scripted > > > application and anything hard coded in that implementation on the > client > > > side is a risk. > > > > > > I may not be understanding the use of the 300 approach, so I will > > research > > > it to see if I can make it fit. > > > > > > On Mar 3, 2017 9:59 AM, "Rafael Weingärtner" < > > rafaelweingart...@gmail.com> > > > wrote: > > > > > > Will great job. > > > > > > I had the same doubt as Daan. > > > > > > Have you considered using HTTP 300 working mode? Then, we could let the > > > client decide which mirror is the best(closest?). Section “10.3.1” of > [1] > > > talks about it; this would put the pressure on deciding upon a mirror > on > > > the client side, but I think it would be fair. > > > > > > [1] https://www.w3.org/Protocols/rfc2616/rfc2616-sec10.html > > > > > > PS: You really like very short variables names! > > > > > > On Fri, Mar 3, 2017 at 1:24 AM, Daan Hoogland < > > daan.hoogl...@shapeblue.com > > > > > > > wrote: > > > > > > > Nice little thing Will, > > > > > > > > One question: if I read the code correctly it ‘go’es and tries all > > > mirrors > > > > at once and whichever responses first is redirected to the client. > This > > > > might well be the same every time. This might be the one closest to > the > > > > mirror302 and not to the client. Is that correct or did I miss a > > weighing > > > > algorithm hidden in there? > > > > > > > > Good coding, > > > > > > > > On 03/03/17 00:23, "Will Stevens" <sw...@apache.org> wrote: > > > > > > > > Hey All, > > > > Please review this repo and tell me what you think: > > > > https://github.com/swill/mirror302 > > > > > > > > Let me know if you have questions or you would like me to make > > > changes > > > > before I bring this topic up with ASF Infra and open a ticket to > > get > > > > this > > > > implemented. > > > > > > > > Cheers, > > > > > > > > *Will Stevens* > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > On Wed, Mar 1, 2017 at 11:37 AM, Will Stevens < > > wstev...@cloudops.com > > > > > > > > wrote: > > > > > > > > > I am building a short term solution right now. I hopefully > will > > > > have the > > > > > building blocks in place by the weekend so we can start working > > > with > > > > Infra > > > > > to get it in place. > > > > > > > > > > We will have a web server which we can point something like > > > > > downloads.cloudstack.org (or whatever url) at. Then we will > > have > > > > an ASF > > > > > repo which tracks a mirror list and exposes a static site to be > > > able > > > > to > > > > > query the mirror list. > > > > > > > > > > The web server will receive a request and will do a 302 > redirect > > to > > > > the > > > > > appropriate resource on one of the mirrors. > > > > > > > > > > This gets us started. Legacy environments will have to do a DB > > > > change to > > > > > change from 'download.cloud.com' to 'downloads.cloudstack.org' > > (or > > > > > whatever), but otherwise it should be pretty simple. > > > > > > > > > > We can improve how we deliver templates going forward, but this > > > > obviously > > > > > requires some discussion still. I will try to buy us some time > > > with > > > > an > > > > > implementation which solves our problems today... > > > > > > > > > > *Will STEVENS* > > > > > Lead Developer > > > > > > > > > > <https://goo.gl/NYZ8KK> > > > > > > > > > > On Wed, Mar 1, 2017 at 7:52 AM, Abhinandan Prateek < > > > > > abhinandan.prat...@shapeblue.com> wrote: > > > > > > > > > >> > > > > >> Initial seeding is a manual step and that is not going to > change > > > in > > > > near > > > > >> future. A handy list of official places from where these > > templates > > > > can be > > > > >> downloaded won’t harm this part of the installation. Just > allow > > > > anyone > > > > >> credible who follows democratic process to publish their > > templates > > > > with > > > > >> apache’s blessings. > > > > >> > > > > >> > > > > >> Coming to urls hard coded in db, the popular suggestion is to > > > point > > > > them > > > > >> to mirrors. This looks good but this is going to take some > > effort > > > > that has > > > > >> not materialised yet. Once this change is made it will be > going > > in > > > > some > > > > >> future release like 4.11; the problem still remains for the > > > > releases that > > > > >> are already out there. In case access to download.cloud.com > is > > > > dropped > > > > >> at some point we will have to document the procedure such that > > > > people know > > > > >> how to make these stable releases work. That is where the > > > procedure > > > > >> documented here https://shankerbalan.net/blog/ > > > > >> seed-cloudstack-templates-offline/ should be officially > adapted > > > > with a > > > > >> marketplace to pick up templates of choosing. Maybe we can > have > > a > > > > pre-setup > > > > >> script to make choices instead of written wiki. Note that this > > > will > > > > be > > > > >> anyway needed by the older releases. > > > > >> > > > > >> > > > > >> > > > > >> > > > > >> On 01/03/17, 4:24 PM, "Paul Angus" <paul.an...@shapeblue.com> > > > > wrote: > > > > >> > > > > >> >-1 > > > > >> > > > > > >> >We are trying to get MORE people to use CloudStack. And > > raising > > > > the > > > > >> barrier to entry does nothing to help that. > > > > >> > > > > > >> > > > > > >> >Kind regards, > > > > >> > > > > > >> >Paul Angus > > > > >> > > > > > >> >paul.an...@shapeblue.com > > > > >> >www.shapeblue.com > > > > >> >53 Chandos Place, Covent Garden, London WC2N 4HSUK > > > > >> >@shapeblue > > > > >> > > > > > >> > > > > > >> > > > > > >> > > > > > >> >-----Original Message----- > > > > >> >From: Abhinandan Prateek [mailto:abhinandan.prateek@ > > > shapeblue.com] > > > > >> >Sent: 01 March 2017 09:39 > > > > >> >To: dev@cloudstack.apache.org > > > > >> >Subject: Re: Modern template hosting > > > > >> > > > > > >> >+1 > > > > >> > > > > > >> >After seeing this discussion running in circles several > times, > > I > > > > think > > > > >> we should at least get started with the simplest option. > > > > >> > > > > > >> > > > > > >> > > > > > >> > > > > > >> >On 27/02/17, 11:54 PM, "Chiradeep Vittal" < > > chirade...@gmail.com> > > > > wrote: > > > > >> > > > > > >> >>The alternative foolproof way is to simply not provide the > > > > automatic > > > > >> >>download. > > > > >> >> > > > > >> >>Just document the mirror list URL where the templates can be > > > > found. I > > > > >> >>don't know why people reject this option. > > > > >> >> > > > > >> >>https://shankerbalan.net/blog/seed-cloudstack- > > > templates-offline/ > > > > >> >> > > > > >> >>On Mon, Feb 27, 2017 at 10:15 AM, Will Stevens > > > > >> >><williamstev...@gmail.com> > > > > >> >>wrote: > > > > >> >> > > > > >> >>> OK. Thanks for the heads up. > > > > >> >>> > > > > >> >>> On Feb 27, 2017 1:08 PM, "Chiradeep Vittal" < > > > > chirade...@gmail.com> > > > > >> wrote: > > > > >> >>> > > > > >> >>> > Sounds workable. The downloader code in the SSVM won't > > > follow > > > > >> >>> > redirects I think. > > > > >> >>> > https://github.com/apache/cloudstack/blob/ > > > 5511065fc20787619d > > > > 9cd0444 > > > > >> >>> > a65a3 155fc9c921/core/src/com/cloud/storage/template/ > > > > >> >>> > HttpTemplateDownloader.java#L93 > > > > >> >>> > https://goo.gl/dSi0r5 > > > > >> >>> > Might need to add > > > > >> >>> > client.setRedirectStrategy(new LaxRedirectStrategy()); > > > > >> >>> > > > > > >> >>> > On Mon, Feb 27, 2017 at 9:57 AM, Will Stevens > > > > >> >>> > <wstev...@cloudops.com> > > > > >> >>> > wrote: > > > > >> >>> > > > > > >> >>> > > We haven't opened a ticket yet because we don't have a > > > > strategy > > > > >> yet. > > > > >> >>> > > > > > > >> >>> > > What do you guys think of this: > > > > >> >>> > > - We setup a new github repo in the 'apache' org which > > > > consists > > > > >> >>> > > of a > > > > >> >>> > single > > > > >> >>> > > file with a list of active/supported mirrors. > > > > >> >>> > > - I write a small web server, distributed as a binary, > > > > which can > > > > >> >>> > > be > > > > >> >>> > hosted > > > > >> >>> > > by ASF Infra. This web server will query the current > > list > > > > of > > > > >> >>> > > mirrors > > > > >> >>> and > > > > >> >>> > > will select one and then do a 302 redirect to that > > mirror. > > > > >> >>> > > > > > > >> >>> > > The act of 'choosing' a mirror could be done in a > number > > > of > > > > ways. > > > > >> >>> > > - If we want to define an order, then it could just > try > > > > from the > > > > >> >>> > > top of > > > > >> >>> > the > > > > >> >>> > > list and work its way down. It would curl the target > to > > > > make > > > > >> >>> > > sure it > > > > >> >>> > gets > > > > >> >>> > > a 200 and if it does, it would do a 302 redirect. > > > > >> >>> > > - Or, if we want to distribute the load across the > > > mirrors, > > > > we > > > > >> >>> > > could > > > > >> >>> pick > > > > >> >>> > > from the list randomly. Again, doing a curl to verify > > the > > > > mirror > > > > >> >>> > > is up > > > > >> >>> > and > > > > >> >>> > > then doing a redirect. > > > > >> >>> > > - If we want to get fancy, we could do a reverse IP > > lookup > > > > and > > > > >> >>> > > try to > > > > >> >>> > match > > > > >> >>> > > the requester with their closest geographical mirror. > > > > >> >>> > > > > > > >> >>> > > Thoughts? > > > > >> >>> > > > > > > >> >>> > > *Will STEVENS* > > > > >> >>> > > Lead Developer > > > > >> >>> > > > > > > >> >>> > > <https://goo.gl/NYZ8KK> > > > > >> >>> > > > > > > >> >>> > > On Mon, Feb 27, 2017 at 12:46 PM, Chiradeep Vittal < > > > > >> >>> chirade...@gmail.com > > > > >> >>> > > > > > > >> >>> > > wrote: > > > > >> >>> > > > > > > >> >>> > > > What steps are needed to set up a mirror? What does > > > Infra > > > > need > > > > >> to do? > > > > >> >>> > Has > > > > >> >>> > > > anybody filed a ticket with Infra? > > > > >> >>> > > > > > > > >> >>> > > > On Sun, Feb 26, 2017 at 10:17 PM, Raja Pullela < > > > > >> >>> > > > raja.pull...@accelerite.com> > > > > >> >>> > > > wrote: > > > > >> >>> > > > > > > > >> >>> > > > > Hi will, > > > > >> >>> > > > > > > > > >> >>> > > > > I believe, we didn’t get to close ‘getting a > mirror > > on > > > > Apache’ > > > > >> >>> > because > > > > >> >>> > > we > > > > >> >>> > > > > needed someone on the Apache Infra side to close > > this. > > > > BTW, > > > > >> >>> > > > > cloudstack-apt.get.eu (I think Nux manages this?) > > has > > > > >> >>> > > > > all/most of > > > > >> >>> > the > > > > >> >>> > > > > content. Once we can close on the Apache mirror > for > > > > hosting > > > > >> >>> > > > > the > > > > >> >>> > > > content, I > > > > >> >>> > > > > can help assist getting the content there. > > > > >> >>> > > > > > > > > >> >>> > > > > For now, we have replicated the > download.cloud.com > > > > content to > > > > >> >>> > > > > ‘ s3.download.accelerite.com’. > > > > >> >>> > > > > Also, we are working on a set of steps/procedure > to > > > > help with > > > > >> >>> > > > > this change. I will update everyone in about a > > week’s > > > > time > > > > >> >>> > > > > on the > > > > >> >>> > details. > > > > >> >>> > > > > > > > > >> >>> > > > > Best, > > > > >> >>> > > > > Raja Pullela > > > > >> >>> > > > > Engineering Team, > > > > >> >>> > > > > Accelerite, 2055 Laurelwood Road, Santa Clara, CA, > > > 95054 > > > > >> >>> > > > > > > > > >> >>> > > > > On 2/24/17, 11:23 PM, "williamstev...@gmail.com > on > > > > behalf of > > > > >> >>> > > > > Will Stevens" <williamstev...@gmail.com on behalf > > of > > > > >> >>> > wstev...@cloudops.com> > > > > >> >>> > > > > wrote: > > > > >> >>> > > > > > > > > >> >>> > > > > unfortunately the template mirror conversation got > > > > caught up > > > > >> >>> > > > > in > > > > >> >>> > details > > > > >> >>> > > > and > > > > >> >>> > > > > nobody took the lead on implementing a solution. > > > > >> >>> > > > > > > > > >> >>> > > > > citrix has been pinging me every couple months to > > say > > > > 'dude, > > > > >> >>> > > > > we > > > > >> >>> need > > > > >> >>> > to > > > > >> >>> > > > > remove the dependency on download.citrix.com', > but > > i > > > > have not > > > > >> >>> > > > > had > > > > >> >>> > the > > > > >> >>> > > > > cycles to get in and solve the problem. the > > shutdown > > > > of that > > > > >> >>> > > > > is > > > > >> >>> > > imminent > > > > >> >>> > > > > right now, so we need to solve it asap. > > > > >> >>> > > > > > > > > >> >>> > > > > > > > > >> >>> > > > > > > > > >> >>> > > > > *Will STEVENS* > > > > >> >>> > > > > Lead Developer > > > > >> >>> > > > > > > > > >> >>> > > > > <https://goo.gl/NYZ8KK> > > > > >> >>> > > > > > > > > >> >>> > > > > On Fri, Feb 24, 2017 at 12:38 PM, Paul Angus < > > > > >> >>> > paul.an...@shapeblue.com > > > > >> >>> > > > > > > > >> >>> > > > > wrote: > > > > >> >>> > > > > > > > > >> >>> > > > > > Hi Nathan, > > > > >> >>> > > > > > > > > > >> >>> > > > > > Ideally, if you put the template location in (or > > use > > > a > > > > >> >>> > > > > > template > > > > >> >>> > > defined > > > > >> >>> > > > > > in) test_data.py then the actual location can > be > > > > >> >>> > > > > > overridden by > > > > >> >>> > > anyone > > > > >> >>> > > > > > testing. > > > > >> >>> > > > > > > > > > >> >>> > > > > > For Trillian, we've copied all of the templates > > that > > > > people > > > > >> >>> > > > > > have > > > > >> >>> > > define > > > > >> >>> > > > > to > > > > >> >>> > > > > > a local repo and then replace the URLs in > > > > test_data.py to > > > > >> >>> > > > > > reduce > > > > >> >>> > > > > bandwidth > > > > >> >>> > > > > > use and download times. > > > > >> >>> > > > > > > > > > >> >>> > > > > > Ie: > > > > >> >>> > > > > > > > > > >> >>> > > > > > "bootableIso": > > > > >> >>> > > > > > { > > > > >> >>> > > > > > "displaytext": "Test > Bootable > > > > ISO", > > > > >> >>> > > > > > "name": "testISO", > > > > >> >>> > > > > > "bootable": True, > > > > >> >>> > > > > > "ispublic": False, > > > > >> >>> > > > > > "url": "{{ > > > marvin_images_location > > > > >> >>> > > > > > }}/TinyCore-current.iso", > > > > >> >>> > > > > > "ostype": 'Other Linux > > > (64-bit)', > > > > >> >>> > > > > > "mode": 'HTTP_DOWNLOAD' > > > > >> >>> > > > > > }, > > > > >> >>> > > > > > > > > > >> >>> > > > > > > > > > >> >>> > > > > > > > > > >> >>> > > > > > I thought that we had come up with a solution > for > > > > >> >>> > download.cloud.com > > > > >> >>> > > , > > > > >> >>> > > > by > > > > >> >>> > > > > > having a mirrorlist hosted in Community Apache > > > > 'space' with > > > > >> >>> anyone > > > > >> >>> > > able > > > > >> >>> > > > > to > > > > >> >>> > > > > > out themselves forward as a mirror. > > > > >> >>> > > > > > But I must admit I lost track of whether anyone > > made > > > > the > > > > >> >>> requisite > > > > >> >>> > > > > changes > > > > >> >>> > > > > > in code.... > > > > >> >>> > > > > > > > > > >> >>> > > > > > > > > > >> >>> > > > > > > > > > >> >>> > > > > > > > > > >> >>> > > > > > Kind regards, > > > > >> >>> > > > > > > > > > >> >>> > > > > > Paul Angus > > > > >> >>> > > > > > > > > > >> >>> > > > > > paul.an...@shapeblue.com > > > > >> >>> > > > > > www.shapeblue.com > > > > >> >>> > > > > > 53 Chandos Place, Covent Garden, London WC2N > > 4HSUK > > > > >> >>> > > > > > @shapeblue > > > > >> >>> > > > > > > > > > >> >>> > > > > > > > > > >> >>> > > > > > > > > > >> >>> > > > > > > > > > >> >>> > > > > > -----Original Message----- > > > > >> >>> > > > > > From: williamstev...@gmail.com > > > > >> >>> > > > > > [mailto:williamstev...@gmail.com] > > > > >> >>> > On > > > > >> >>> > > > > > Behalf Of Will Stevens > > > > >> >>> > > > > > Sent: 24 February 2017 16:30 > > > > >> >>> > > > > > To: dev@cloudstack.apache.org > > > > >> >>> > > > > > Subject: Re: Modern template hosting > > > > >> >>> > > > > > > > > > >> >>> > > > > > this is a hard questions. in general, we should > > be > > > > setting > > > > >> >>> > > > > > up a > > > > >> >>> > > mirror > > > > >> >>> > > > > on > > > > >> >>> > > > > > some cloudstack/apache domain and then mirror to > > > other > > > > >> >>> > > > > > provided > > > > >> >>> > > > > templates. > > > > >> >>> > > > > > > > > > >> >>> > > > > > we MUST come up with a solution to deprecate > > > > >> >>> > > > > > 'download.cloud.com > > > > >> >>> ', > > > > >> >>> > > > that > > > > >> >>> > > > > > is going to be going away any day now. > > > > >> >>> > > > > > > > > > >> >>> > > > > > i don't know the right way to solve this to be > > > > honest, but > > > > >> >>> > > > > > if you > > > > >> >>> > > have > > > > >> >>> > > > > > ideas, i am willing to help. > > > > >> >>> > > > > > > > > > >> >>> > > > > > > > > > >> >>> > > > > > > > > > >> >>> > > > > > *Will STEVENS* > > > > >> >>> > > > > > Lead Developer > > > > >> >>> > > > > > > > > > >> >>> > > > > > <https://goo.gl/NYZ8KK> > > > > >> >>> > > > > > > > > > >> >>> > > > > > On Fri, Feb 24, 2017 at 11:25 AM, Nathan > Johnson < > > > > >> >>> njohn...@ena.com > > > > >> >>> > > > > > > >> >>> > > > > wrote: > > > > >> >>> > > > > > > > > > >> >>> > > > > > > So not to re-open a can of worms, but I’m in a > > > > situation > > > > >> >>> > > > > > > where > > > > >> >>> I > > > > >> >>> > > need > > > > >> >>> > > > > > > to come up with a Marvin component test that > > > > depends on a > > > > >> >>> > template > > > > >> >>> > > > > > > based on a kernel that’s relatively new, i.e., > > > > newer than > > > > >> >>> Centos > > > > >> >>> > > 5.3 > > > > >> >>> > > > / > > > > >> >>> > > > > > Ubuntu 10.04 . > > > > >> >>> > > > > > > I see openvm.eu has a suitable template > (Ubuntu > > > > 16.0.4 > > > > >> >>> > > > > > > for > > > > >> >>> KVM), > > > > >> >>> > > but > > > > >> >>> > > > > > > from looking at the thread "Migrating > CloudStack > > > > content > > > > >> >>> > > > > > > from download.cloud.com” it looks like there > is > > > > >> >>> > > > > > > resistance to using > > > > >> >>> > > this > > > > >> >>> 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