Re: [PROPOSAL][SIMPLIFY] Future ACS RC testing

2013-09-17 Thread Daan Hoogland
so hijackit, are we on for wednesday morning/afternoon/evening/night? On Mon, Sep 16, 2013 at 11:52 PM, David Nalley wrote: > On Mon, Sep 16, 2013 at 1:17 PM, Daan Hoogland > wrote: >> On Mon, Sep 16, 2013 at 7:12 PM, David Nalley wrote: >>> I do favor (extensive) unit tests as criteria. >>> >

Re: [PROPOSAL][SIMPLIFY] Future ACS RC testing

2013-09-16 Thread David Nalley
On Mon, Sep 16, 2013 at 1:17 PM, Daan Hoogland wrote: > On Mon, Sep 16, 2013 at 7:12 PM, David Nalley wrote: >> I do favor (extensive) unit tests as criteria. >> >> Disagreeing is fine - no one (least of all me) says that my opinion is >> right all of the time. :) >> >> Over time I've become less

Re: [PROPOSAL][SIMPLIFY] Future ACS RC testing

2013-09-16 Thread Marcus Sorensen
dtimebuddy.com/cet-to-est-converter > > > >> -Original Message- >> From: Daan Hoogland [mailto:daan.hoogl...@gmail.com] >> Sent: Monday, September 16, 2013 1:17 PM >> To: dev >> Subject: Re: [PROPOSAL][SIMPLIFY] Future ACS RC testing >> >> On Mon, S

RE: [PROPOSAL][SIMPLIFY] Future ACS RC testing

2013-09-16 Thread Musayev, Ilya
] > Sent: Monday, September 16, 2013 1:17 PM > To: dev > Subject: Re: [PROPOSAL][SIMPLIFY] Future ACS RC testing > > On Mon, Sep 16, 2013 at 7:12 PM, David Nalley wrote: > > I do favor (extensive) unit tests as criteria. > > > > Disagreeing is fine - no one (least of all

Re: [PROPOSAL][SIMPLIFY] Future ACS RC testing

2013-09-16 Thread Marcus Sorensen
I think this discussion should be linked with the discussion about minimum requirements for a release (release criteria). It seems this discussion is already being had to some degree. On Sep 16, 2013 5:27 AM, "sebgoa" wrote: > > On Sep 15, 2013, at 8:24 PM, Daan Hoogland > wrote: > > > Sebastien

Re: [PROPOSAL][SIMPLIFY] Future ACS RC testing

2013-09-16 Thread David Nalley
On Mon, Sep 16, 2013 at 1:05 PM, Daan Hoogland wrote: > A worthy cause, and we should all strive for it. It does put extra > constraints on things like db upgrade scripts however. If ACS is > releasable at all times, can users make their own release and expect > all upgrade paths to work? > > I d

Re: [PROPOSAL][SIMPLIFY] Future ACS RC testing

2013-09-16 Thread Daan Hoogland
On Mon, Sep 16, 2013 at 7:12 PM, David Nalley wrote: > I do favor (extensive) unit tests as criteria. > > Disagreeing is fine - no one (least of all me) says that my opinion is > right all of the time. :) > > Over time I've become less concerned about a feature working, and more > concerned about

Re: [PROPOSAL][SIMPLIFY] Future ACS RC testing

2013-09-16 Thread Daan Hoogland
A worthy cause, and we should all strive for it. It does put extra constraints on things like db upgrade scripts however. If ACS is releasable at all times, can users make their own release and expect all upgrade paths to work? I disagreed with you on documentation as a commit criteria in another

Re: [PROPOSAL][SIMPLIFY] Future ACS RC testing

2013-09-16 Thread David Nalley
On Mon, Sep 16, 2013 at 11:34 AM, Marcus Sorensen wrote: > I think this discussion should be linked with the discussion about minimum > requirements for a release (release criteria). It seems this discussion is > already being had to some degree. Agreed. I think release criteria are important -

Re: [PROPOSAL][SIMPLIFY] Future ACS RC testing

2013-09-16 Thread Daan Hoogland
shoot a time, you will miss some of us. how about wednesday 19:00 cet this is the time the irc meeting used to be. On Mon, Sep 16, 2013 at 1:27 PM, sebgoa wrote: > > On Sep 15, 2013, at 8:24 PM, Daan Hoogland wrote: > >> Sebastien, >> >> Are you thinking november in Amsterdam, or before? > > I w

Re: [PROPOSAL][SIMPLIFY] Future ACS RC testing

2013-09-16 Thread sebgoa
On Sep 15, 2013, at 8:24 PM, Daan Hoogland wrote: > Sebastien, > > Are you thinking november in Amsterdam, or before? I was thinking about a conference call - way before Amsterdam- > > On Thu, Sep 12, 2013 at 9:06 AM, sebgoa wrote: >> >> On Sep 11, 2013, at 5:25 PM, "Musayev, Ilya" wrote:

Re: [PROPOSAL][SIMPLIFY] Future ACS RC testing

2013-09-15 Thread Daan Hoogland
Sebastien, Are you thinking november in Amsterdam, or before? On Thu, Sep 12, 2013 at 9:06 AM, sebgoa wrote: > > On Sep 11, 2013, at 5:25 PM, "Musayev, Ilya" wrote: > >> As mentioned on private, I think the reason we have so few responders when >> it comes to voting - is because it takes consi

Re: [PROPOSAL][SIMPLIFY] Future ACS RC testing

2013-09-12 Thread sebgoa
On Sep 11, 2013, at 5:25 PM, "Musayev, Ilya" wrote: > As mentioned on private, I think the reason we have so few responders when it > comes to voting - is because it takes considerable amount of time to build, > test and QA. And if you take voting serious as everyone should, you have to > QA

[PROPOSAL][SIMPLIFY] Future ACS RC testing

2013-09-11 Thread Musayev, Ilya
As mentioned on private, I think the reason we have so few responders when it comes to voting - is because it takes considerable amount of time to build, test and QA. And if you take voting serious as everyone should, you have to QA before you can vote. Perhaps we should spent some time on au