RE: [DISCUSS] Release 4.4

2014-06-12 Thread Animesh Chaturvedi
> -Original Message- > From: Daan Hoogland [mailto:daan.hoogl...@gmail.com] > Sent: Thursday, June 12, 2014 12:27 AM > To: dev > Subject: Re: [DISCUSS] Release 4.4 > > Why would we need that in a mail to dev@ Animesh? It is on the release > dashboard. [Animes

Re: [DISCUSS] Release 4.4

2014-06-12 Thread Daan Hoogland
iginal Message- >> From: Mike Tutkowski [mailto:mike.tutkow...@solidfire.com] >> Sent: Wednesday, June 11, 2014 9:37 AM >> To: dev@cloudstack.apache.org >> Subject: Re: [DISCUSS] Release 4.4 >> >> Yeah, I am concerned about 4.4 getting farther behind schedule, as well, bu

Re: [DISCUSS] Release 4.4

2014-06-12 Thread Daan Hoogland
Leo, great work thanks On Wed, Jun 11, 2014 at 11:39 PM, Leo Simons wrote: > Hey folks, > > On 6/11/14, 6:36 PM, "Mike Tutkowski" wrote: >>Yeah, I am concerned about 4.4 getting farther behind schedule, as well, >>but I agree with David that we should not cancel it. >> >>I know it might be a pa

Re: [DISCUSS] Release 4.4

2014-06-12 Thread Daan Hoogland
I agree we shouldn't stop trying to get out 4.4 but we should not let freeze for 4.5 slip. It will worsen the problem for next release. The amount of work to get a release stable will grow if we (over)compensate by letting more features get in the next relelase. On Thu, Jun 12, 2014 at 4:33 AM, Jo

Re: [DISCUSS] Release 4.4

2014-06-11 Thread John Burwell
Hugo, I would be -1 on the idea of combining 4.4 and 4.5. If we can’t get the change set for 4.4 stabilized then what makes us think we would be successful expanding it? We would be deferring the 4.4 risks to the 4.5 release and increasing its overall scope. For 4.2, we push out the freeze d

Re: [DISCUSS] Release 4.4

2014-06-11 Thread Pierre-Luc Dion
Daan created jira public filters so they can be followed for the release-notes: Blockers: https://issues.apache.org/jira/issues/?filter=12327112 Criticals: https://issues.apache.org/jira/issues/?filter=12327119 Pierre-Luc Dion Architecte de Solution Cloud | Cloud Solutions Architect 855-OK-CLOUD

Re: [DISCUSS] Release 4.4

2014-06-11 Thread Alena Prokharchyk
I any case, even the new bug that Rayees will file, is not a blocker and shouldn¹t hold cutting the RC. -alena. On 6/11/14, 3:27 PM, "Min Chen" wrote: >Just looked at automation setup with Rayees, CLOUDSTACK-6825 is not really >an issue of createTemplateFromSnapshot, the real issue is that the

RE: [DISCUSS] Release 4.4

2014-06-11 Thread Animesh Chaturvedi
re.com] > Sent: Wednesday, June 11, 2014 9:37 AM > To: dev@cloudstack.apache.org > Subject: Re: [DISCUSS] Release 4.4 > > Yeah, I am concerned about 4.4 getting farther behind schedule, as well, but > I agree with David that we should not cancel it. > > I know it might be a pain

Re: [DISCUSS] Release 4.4

2014-06-11 Thread Min Chen
Just looked at automation setup with Rayees, CLOUDSTACK-6825 is not really an issue of createTemplateFromSnapshot, the real issue is that the snapshot passed to createTemplate command has its owner removed in DB, thus causing checkAccess failure. As for why the snapshot is still not removed when th

Re: [DISCUSS] Release 4.4

2014-06-11 Thread Mike Tutkowski
Thanks, Leo! On Wednesday, June 11, 2014, Leo Simons wrote: > Hey folks, > > On 6/11/14, 6:36 PM, "Mike Tutkowski" > wrote: > >Yeah, I am concerned about 4.4 getting farther behind schedule, as well, > >but I agree with David that we should not cancel it. > > > >I know it might be a pain, but I

Re: [DISCUSS] Release 4.4

2014-06-11 Thread Leo Simons
Hey folks, On 6/11/14, 6:36 PM, "Mike Tutkowski" wrote: >Yeah, I am concerned about 4.4 getting farther behind schedule, as well, >but I agree with David that we should not cancel it. > >I know it might be a pain, but I wonder if the RM would be willing to >"nag" >people every few days (just an e

Re: [DISCUSS] Release 4.4

2014-06-11 Thread Mike Tutkowski
Sounds reasonable That being the case, do we feel we can build a first RC once our remaining blockers are completed? On Wed, Jun 11, 2014 at 3:19 PM, Daan Hoogland wrote: > Well, I think we should always treat the status of blocker that way. > Something is a blocker if we feel it blocks us fro

Re: [DISCUSS] Release 4.4

2014-06-11 Thread Daan Hoogland
Well, I think we should always treat the status of blocker that way. Something is a blocker if we feel it blocks us from releasing. Not just in this stage but always. (I think I am repeating myself a tad) In fact I feel we must treat those 90 critical issues the same way and I dare not start to thi

Re: [DISCUSS] Release 4.4

2014-06-11 Thread Mike Tutkowski
I agree - at this stage in the release, each blocker that remains should be decided on a case-by-case basis if we still feel it is a blocker. On Wed, Jun 11, 2014 at 2:54 PM, Alena Prokharchyk < alena.prokharc...@citrix.com> wrote: > > > On 6/11/14, 1:45 PM, "Daan Hoogland" wrote: > > >I agree,

Re: [DISCUSS] Release 4.4

2014-06-11 Thread Alena Prokharchyk
On 6/11/14, 1:45 PM, "Daan Hoogland" wrote: >I agree, but I wouldn't pin 'blocker' by a definition of the nature of >the defect. A blocker is something that blocks the community at large >from releasing. What you define here would be useful for more vague >prio definitions like 'critical', thou

Re: [DISCUSS] Release 4.4

2014-06-11 Thread Daan Hoogland
I agree, but I wouldn't pin 'blocker' by a definition of the nature of the defect. A blocker is something that blocks the community at large from releasing. What you define here would be useful for more vague prio definitions like 'critical', though. Of course a major defect in any of the hyperviso

Re: [DISCUSS] Release 4.4

2014-06-11 Thread Alena Prokharchyk
I guess its time to define what qualifies to be called a blocker bug. Is blocker something that: 1) happens on all the setups? 2) blocks core features from executing Because I think that the bug happening on KVM only (lets say the vms fail to start = core feature), can be considered as a blocker

Re: [DISCUSS] Release 4.4

2014-06-11 Thread Daan Hoogland
On Wed, Jun 11, 2014 at 10:31 PM, Alena Prokharchyk wrote: > If we confirm that its a race condition, then the bug should be punted to > 4.5 or solve it? -- Daan

Re: [DISCUSS] Release 4.4

2014-06-11 Thread Alena Prokharchyk
If we confirm that its a race condition, then the bug should be punted to 4.5 On 6/11/14, 11:38 AM, "Min Chen" wrote: >I have assigned CLOUDSTACK-6825 to me. But from the stack trace, it seems >failing in doing check access on the snapshot owner that is not active >anymore, feel like a racing co

Re: [DISCUSS] Release 4.4

2014-06-11 Thread Daan Hoogland
It is said by evil tongues in this mail thread that me, the RM does not nag enough about the 4.4 branch status and the bugs marked to apply to it. Worse; those evil tongues might just be right. In can hereby say without reservation and with full heart and soul that I will better my life in this per

Re: [DISCUSS] Release 4.4

2014-06-11 Thread Ove Ewerlid
Seems to me there are two issues that comes up frequently when snapshots on ACS+KVM are discussed on these lists; 1) There is an option to enable/disable snapshots on ACS with KVM hypervisor, default is not enabled. 2) The "qemu-img convert" on recent RHEL6 systems lacks support for the op

Re: [DISCUSS] Release 4.4

2014-06-11 Thread Min Chen
I have assigned CLOUDSTACK-6825 to me. But from the stack trace, it seems failing in doing check access on the snapshot owner that is not active anymore, feel like a racing condition happening on automation setup. Rayees, several points to clarify: 1. Is this still happening on recent automation ru

Re: [DISCUSS] Release 4.4

2014-06-11 Thread Nitin Mehta
But the blockers/criticals would keep coming unless its certified that the new features have been tested with some confidence and that the basic functionalities work. Thanks, -Nitin On 11/06/14 10:33 AM, "Mike Tutkowski" wrote: >According to that list, we have four blockers remaining...all netw

Re: [DISCUSS] Release 4.4

2014-06-11 Thread Marcus
Just need a way to get people to see branches through to release. Freeze master or something. Releases will go out the door faster if it has to be done. On Wed, Jun 11, 2014 at 11:58 AM, Alena Prokharchyk < alena.prokharc...@citrix.com> wrote: > CLOUDSTACK-6825 happens while doing object access

Re: [DISCUSS] Release 4.4

2014-06-11 Thread Alena Prokharchyk
CLOUDSTACK-6825 happens while doing object access check in ParamProcessWorker. Min/Prachi, can you take a look to see if its related to RBAC feature? -Alena. On 6/11/14, 10:45 AM, "Amogh Vasekar" wrote: >Hi, > >AFAIK a couple of Automation blockers [1] [2], which had no owner >assigned, were m

Re: [DISCUSS] Release 4.4

2014-06-11 Thread Amogh Vasekar
Hi, AFAIK a couple of Automation blockers [1] [2], which had no owner assigned, were moved to critical. [1] CLOUDSTACK-6842 [2] CLOUDSTACK-6825 Thanks, Amogh On 6/11/14 10:33 AM, "Mike Tutkowski" wrote: >we have four blockers remaining...all network >oriented. > >Murali Reddy has two. All f

Re: [DISCUSS] Release 4.4

2014-06-11 Thread Mike Tutkowski
According to that list, we have four blockers remaining...all network oriented. Murali Reddy has two. All four have an owner and presumably progress is being made. I guess it would be a good idea if we triaged critical defects and determined once the blockers are done if any of those should be fi

Re: [DISCUSS] Release 4.4

2014-06-11 Thread Mike Tutkowski
Good point - what is the release criteria? Is it just no blockers or is it no blockers and no criticals? Triaging the bugs is a good idea, too. We should make sure they still are what we have them listed as. On Wed, Jun 11, 2014 at 11:23 AM, Alena Prokharchyk < alena.prokharc...@citrix.com> wrot

Re: [DISCUSS] Release 4.4

2014-06-11 Thread Pierre-Luc Dion
Is there a list of issues, blockers, or todo items to be done in order to have 4.4 out ? The only things I saw is the list of blocker currently having 4 blocker ( https://issues.apache.org/jira/browse/CLOUDSTACK-6602?filter=12327112) Does this mean that even if all blockers are fixed getting the

Re: [DISCUSS] Release 4.4

2014-06-11 Thread Alena Prokharchyk
On 6/11/14, 9:36 AM, "Mike Tutkowski" wrote: >Yeah, I am concerned about 4.4 getting farther behind schedule, as well, >but I agree with David that we should not cancel it. > >I know it might be a pain, but I wonder if the RM would be willing to >"nag" >people every few days (just an e-mail to de

Re: [DISCUSS] Release 4.4

2014-06-11 Thread Erik Weber
On Wed, Jun 11, 2014 at 5:30 PM, Hugo Trippaers wrote: > Hey all, > > I’m getting somewhat concerned about the 4.4 release. We don’t seems to be > able to get the 4.4 branch in shape for a release candidate and meanwhile > master is diverging further and further. We also know that once we hit the

Re: [DISCUSS] Release 4.4

2014-06-11 Thread Mike Tutkowski
Yeah, I am concerned about 4.4 getting farther behind schedule, as well, but I agree with David that we should not cancel it. I know it might be a pain, but I wonder if the RM would be willing to "nag" people every few days (just an e-mail to dev@) about the current list of blockers and their prog

Re: [DISCUSS] Release 4.4

2014-06-11 Thread David Nalley
On Wed, Jun 11, 2014 at 11:30 AM, Hugo Trippaers wrote: > Hey all, > > I’m getting somewhat concerned about the 4.4 release. We don’t seems to be > able to get the 4.4 branch in shape for a release candidate and meanwhile > master is diverging further and further. We also know that once we hit t

[DISCUSS] Release 4.4

2014-06-11 Thread Hugo Trippaers
Hey all, I’m getting somewhat concerned about the 4.4 release. We don’t seems to be able to get the 4.4 branch in shape for a release candidate and meanwhile master is diverging further and further. We also know that once we hit the RC phase we will probably need a sizable number of iterations