I agree we shouldn't stop trying to get out 4.4 but we should not let freeze for 4.5 slip. It will worsen the problem for next release. The amount of work to get a release stable will grow if we (over)compensate by letting more features get in the next relelase.
On Thu, Jun 12, 2014 at 4:33 AM, John Burwell <jburw...@basho.com> wrote: > Hugo, > > I would be -1 on the idea of combining 4.4 and 4.5. If we can’t get the > change set for 4.4 stabilized then what makes us think we would be successful > expanding it? We would be deferring the 4.4 risks to the 4.5 release and > increasing its overall scope. For 4.2, we push out the freeze date to > accommodate the slippage of 4.1. I propose that we do the same for the 4.5 > freeze date to relieve some schedule pressure and acknowledge the inevitable > slippage in 4.5 schedule caused by 4.4. > > Thanks, > -John > > On Jun 11, 2014, at 11:30 AM, Hugo Trippaers <h...@apache.org> wrote: > >> Hey all, >> >> I’m getting somewhat concerned about the 4.4 release. We don’t seems to be >> able to get the 4.4 branch in shape for a release candidate and meanwhile >> master is diverging further and further. We also know that once we hit the >> RC phase we will probably need a sizable number of iterations to eventually >> ship the release. Based on past experience, if we keep up like this we will >> have another release that will actually be released way after the feature >> freeze for the next release (July 18). Probably leaving us in the same bad >> spot for the next release. >> >> I tried to come up with a number of solutions that could rectify the >> situation and help the release move forward, but i can’t think of any. Save >> for some options that might be considered extreme ideas. One the the more >> prominent ideas in my mind at the moment is skipping the 4.4 release all >> together and combine it with the next planned release (whether its 5.0 or >> 4.5). This would require a community effort to focus on quality in the next >> month and basically freeze the master for features and have a community wide >> push for quality to get the next release out on schedule. >> >> But before i go on and shout out even more drastic ideas, what do you think >> about the current 4.4 release. How close do you feel that we are to having a >> releasable product? >> >> Cheers, >> >> Hugo > -- Daan
