RE: debian packaging related tasks - sandboxable?

2007-05-25 Thread Stephen McConnell
> -Original Message- > From: Bruce Atherton [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] > What do people think about Ant supporting a way to install > and remove antlibs from the command line into a standard > antlib directory that is automatically added to the classpath > on startup? That would suppo

RE: classloader for 1.7

2006-08-26 Thread Stephen McConnell
ith formal documented extension semantics, with scope limited to the system classloader). WDYT? Cheers, Steve. -- Stephen McConnell mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] http://www.dpml.net - To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]

RE: classloader for 1.7

2006-08-29 Thread Stephen McConnell
_ From: Peter Reilly [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Wednesday, 30 August 2006 2:20 AM To: Ant Developers List Subject: Re: classloader for 1.7 On 8/25/06, Stephen McConnell <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: Given that a solution that limits mutation to the system class

RE: Building Ant 1.7beta

2006-08-31 Thread Stephen McConnell
> -Original Message- > From: news [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Jesse Glick > Sent: Friday, 1 September 2006 4:56 AM > To: dev@ant.apache.org > Subject: Re: Building Ant 1.7beta > > Stefan Bodewig wrote: > > you'd just be asking for classloader problems if you have two > > dif

RE: VOTE: add an antlib (and optional task) loader to ant 1.7

2006-09-04 Thread Stephen McConnell
n XML data declaring new classloader creation criteria (i.e. no mutation in the general case) and where the taskdef task incorporates parallel/equivalent functionality. Cheers, Steve. ---------- Stephen McConnell mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]

RE: Resource.getURL()

2006-09-21 Thread Stephen McConnell
stom handlers). In fact the combination of system classloader mutation plus support for custom URL handlers would contribute to a significant potential simplification of Depot's extensions to the Ant project model and task some task implementations. Cheers, Steve. --

RE: Resource.getURL()

2006-09-21 Thread Stephen McConnell
> -Original Message- > From: Dominique Devienne [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] > Sent: Friday, 22 September 2006 11:44 AM > To: Ant Developers List > Subject: Re: Resource.getURL() > > > Just for reference I have quite a bit of experience working with > > custom protocol handlers. > > OK,

RE: Resource.getURL()

2006-09-22 Thread Stephen McConnell
> -Original Message- > From: Scott Stirling [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] > Sent: Friday, 22 September 2006 11:58 PM > To: Ant Developers List > Subject: Re: Resource.getURL() > > DD asks: > > > Does that play well with application containers that &

RE: Resource.getURL()

2006-09-23 Thread Stephen McConnell
ink the URLStreamHandlerFactory model fits this description. In effect it does not provide an API to support runtime customization or multiple factory declaration/chaining. This is principal reason why I suggested the approach related to the 'java.protocol.handler.pkgs' property a

RE: Resource.getURL()

2006-09-24 Thread Stephen McConnell
at allowed association of a name with a classname and classpath and exposing an operation to retrieve the target class. A URLResource could then be created using: new URLResource( name, uri, handlerClassResourceName ); The upside of this approach is the elimination of the entire subject o

RE: Resource.getURL()

2006-09-25 Thread Stephen McConnell
sed restrictions within the Path implementation but is feasible given the existance of Resource.getURL() and underlying support for handler declaration). Hope this helps! Cheers, Steve. -- Ste

RE: Resource.getURL()

2006-09-25 Thread Stephen McConnell
able resource implementation should be required to fully support getURL() and getOutputStream(). Thoughts? Cheers, Steve. -- Stephen McConnell mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] http://www.dpml.net - To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]

RE: Resource.getURL()

2006-09-25 Thread Stephen McConnell
> -Original Message- > From: Matt Benson [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] > Sent: Tuesday, 26 September 2006 4:28 AM > To: Ant Developers List > Subject: RE: Resource.getURL() > > --- Stephen McConnell <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > [SNIP] > > > > S

RE: Resource.getURL()

2006-09-25 Thread Stephen McConnell
uot;? Are your implying something equivalent to the way a URL can be externalized to a string (which could be done if all resources are associated with dedicated url handlers). Some concrete usage examples would be handy. /Steve. -- Stephen McConnell mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED

RE: Resource.getURL()

2006-09-26 Thread Stephen McConnell
ource named reference to classname and path handler:[name] HandlerResource named reference to a protocol handler Also important to note is that: * all of the above return URLs that are in fact URIs identifiy the resource instance Does that sound correct? /Steve. -- Stephen McConnell mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] http://www.dpml.net - To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]

RE: Resource.getURL()

2006-09-26 Thread Stephen McConnell
> -Original Message- > From: Stefan Bodewig [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] > Sent: Tuesday, 26 September 2006 12:56 PM > To: dev@ant.apache.org > Subject: Re: Resource.getURL() > > On Tue, 26 Sep 2006, Stephen McConnell <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > >&

RE: Resource.getURL()

2006-09-27 Thread Stephen McConnell
> -Original Message- > From: Stefan Bodewig [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] > Sent: Wednesday, 27 September 2006 2:00 PM > To: dev@ant.apache.org > Subject: Re: Resource.getURL() > > On Tue, 26 Sep 2006, Stephen McConnell <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: >

RE: Resource.getURL() - example

2006-09-27 Thread Stephen McConnell
> -Original Message- > From: Stephen McConnell [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] > Sent: Wednesday, 27 September 2006 4:58 PM > To: 'Ant Developers List' > Subject: RE: Resource.getURL() > > > > > -Original Message- > > From: Ste

RE: Resource.getURL() - example

2006-09-28 Thread Stephen McConnell
t could flow in bother directions (from Depot to ant during project configuration, and from Ant to Depot during project execution). URL protocol handlers are simple standard structures and support within Ant for these structures would have a significant positive impact on the forward deve

RE: Resource.getURL() - example

2006-09-28 Thread Stephen McConnell
t: My schedule is free over the next week and I'll be free to field questions, contribute code examples, prepare testcases, etc. Cheers, Steve. ------ Stephen McConnell mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] http://www.dpml.net

RE: Resource.getURL() - example

2006-09-29 Thread Stephen McConnell
ree with you that new protocol (a.k.a. new ideas) bring new overheads in understanding. Cheers, Steve. -- Stephen McConnell mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] http://www.dpml.net - To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]

RE: Resource.getURL() - example

2006-09-29 Thread Stephen McConnell
ription is not easy to interpret in terms of a concrete question or assumption. Could you restate the problem, the scope your assuming, and the issues your concerned about? Cheers, Steve. -- Stephen McConnel

RE: Resource.getURL() - example

2006-09-30 Thread Stephen McConnell
cluded with emphasis this this is a big feature plus and a small code impact 4. that Resource.getURL() is not required given the above 5. that items (1) and (2) require item (3) when we move from the API to the build file Hoping that

[Bug 39960] - NPE when trying to a custom resource

2006-12-09 Thread Stephen McConnell
> -Original Message- > From: Matt Benson [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] > Is it wrong to build an RC that we already know won't be the final? No - its not wrong, the RC is simply recognized as a near to final candidate. /Steve.

RE: AW: AW: Triage time

2006-12-11 Thread Stephen McConnell
The following switch may be helpful: $ ant -diagnostics /Steve. > -Original Message- > From: Steve Loughran [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] > Sent: Tuesday, 12 December 2006 12:19 AM > To: Ant Developers List > Subject: Re: AW: AW: Triage time > > [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: > > > > > >> -

RE: AW: AW: Triage time

2006-12-11 Thread Stephen McConnell
> -Original Message- > From: Stephen McConnell [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] > Sent: Tuesday, 12 December 2006 5:02 AM > To: 'Ant Developers List' > Subject: RE: AW: AW: Triage time > > > The following switch may be helpful: > > $ ant -diagno

RE: Branch

2006-12-27 Thread Stephen McConnell
> -Original Message- > From: Stefan Bodewig [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] > > For Ant 1.8, I have in mind some refactoring, like maybe > > splitting the source tree per jar. +1 > > Why? > > Splitting the source tree by moving things to antlibs is > fine, but why split the source tree

[replace] Replaced 6 occurrences in 0 files.

2007-02-03 Thread Stephen McConnell
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RE: auto download of antlibs

2007-05-07 Thread Stephen McConnell
;d need a metadata tree mapping antlibs to well known > packages, but that is not too hard. JSON, perhaps. It would be worth looking at the JSR 277 draft spec - in particular the topics dealing with repositories, runtime module construction, and service loading.

RE: auto download of antlibs

2007-05-07 Thread Stephen McConnell
7;m not > sure that it would be really nice to get the latest version > by default, making the build system automatically updated is > not necessarily a good idea (at least users have to keep very > good control over that). Yep - basically you

RE: auto download of antlibs

2007-05-07 Thread Stephen McConnell
ject: http://jcp.org/en/jsr/detail?id=294 http://jcp.org/en/jsr/detail?id=277 Cheers, Steve. ---------- Stephen McConnell mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] http://www.dpml.net - To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]

RE: auto download of antlibs

2007-05-10 Thread Stephen McConnell
first scenario correctly reflects the offline notion while the second scenario does not have any relationship to the term. However, the second scenario does start to recognize that the physical topology of a machine is not equivalent to the definition of a policy. Cheers, Steve. -- Stephen McConnell mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] http://www.dpml.net - To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]

RE: Antunit timings inaccurate?

2007-05-12 Thread Stephen McConnell
d got > this in the output: > > [antunit] took 1,178,948,204.551 sec > > That's a long time! Just a touch over 37 years. /Steve. -- Stephen McConnell mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] http://www.dpml.net -

Re: [Ant Wiki] New: JavaScript

2004-06-18 Thread Stephen McConnell
Conor MacNeill wrote: Do we need this in our Wiki? Doesn't seem appropriate. Besides, I think Netscape developed Javascript - not Sun. That's my understanding as well. SJM -- |---| | Magic by Merlin | | Production by Avalon

testing for verbose mode

2004-07-09 Thread Stephen McConnell
Is there a way I can test if an ant project is running in verbose mode or not? Nothing jumped out at me when going over the javadocs. I'm hoping there's something I can access via the Project class. Cheers, Steve. -- |---| | Magic by Merlin

Re: testing for verbose mode

2004-07-09 Thread Stephen McConnell
What if I said that I was only interested in knowing if the ant command line "-verbose" switch was enabled or not (as opposed to knowing anything about what log listeners are doing)? Steve. Conor MacNeill wrote: Stephen McConnell wrote: Is there a way I can test if an ant project is

Re: Gump build failure...

2004-07-10 Thread Stephen McConnell
Just did a build of ant (ant building ant) and that passed without problem so I took a look at the bootstrap.sh script and noticed that the package in question is not included in the build: "${JAVAC}" $BOOTJAVAC_OPTS -d ${CLASSDIR} ${TOOLS}/bzip2/*.java ${TOOLS}/tar/*.java ${TOOLS}/zip/*.java \

Re: Gump build failure...

2004-07-10 Thread Stephen McConnell
Ignore me - it was a missing class in CVS. Stephen McConnell wrote: Just did a build of ant (ant building ant) and that passed without problem so I took a look at the bootstrap.sh script and noticed that the package in question is not included in the build: "${JAVAC}" $BOOTJAV

RE: RE: [GUMP@brutus]: avalon-tools/avalon-tools-magic failed

2004-07-25 Thread Stephen McConnell
> -Original Message- > From: Antoine Levy-Lambert [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] > Sent: Sunday, July 25, 2004 16:54 > To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > Subject: Fwd: RE: [EMAIL PROTECTED]: avalon-tools/avalon-tools-magic failed > > I found this on the gump mailing list. > Can it be that we [ant] broke

RE: [GUMP@brutus]: avalon-tools/avalon-tools-magic failed

2004-07-25 Thread Stephen McConnell
http://brutus.apache.org/gump/public/avalon-tools/avalon-tools-magic/gum p_work/build_avalon-tools_avalon-tools-magic.html > -Original Message- > From: Stephen McConnell [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] > Sent: Sunday, July 25, 2004 13:54 > To: 'Gump code and data' > Subject:

RE: Ant 1.6.3 [was status report on the PMC list]

2004-08-24 Thread Stephen McConnell
What is the criteria that is use by the Ant project for a major, minor, and micro version bump? Stephen. > -Original Message- > From: Antoine Levy-Lambert [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] > Sent: 23 August 2004 22:02 > To: Ant Developers List > Subject: Ant 1.6.3 [was status report on the PMC

RE: repository

2004-10-26 Thread Stephen McConnell
> -Original Message- > From: Steve Loughran [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] > Sent: 26 October 2004 01:17 > To: Ant Developers List > Subject: repository > > > I have just committed a repository task. In theory it will support > repositories other than maven, but there is only maven support r

RE: Importing and caching build files from a URL

2005-11-29 Thread Stephen McConnell
> -Original Message- > From: Matt Benson [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] > Just out of curiosity, how many people other than Peter and > myself have ever started to modify to allow non-file > imports? :) I've been using an extended import task for a while now. The task basically takes

RE: Junut4

2006-03-03 Thread Stephen McConnell
> -Original Message- > From: news [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Jesse Glick > Sent: Saturday, 4 March 2006 5:50 AM > To: dev@ant.apache.org > Subject: Re: Junut4 > > Stefan Bodewig wrote: > > putting even more modifications into the current task (adding a new > > JUnitResultFo

RE: Using Ant Programmatically

2006-05-21 Thread Stephen McConnell
I would recommend that you forget about the Taskdef and just focus on instantiating and executing the IzPackTask task instance. For example: IzPackTask task = new IzPackTask(); task.setProject( project ); // you customatization of the task task.init(); task.execute(); /Steve.

RE: Default excludes and Subversion on Windows

2006-08-21 Thread Stephen McConnell
gt; Regardless of what we do, we need to decide so that it can go > into the release, therefore: > > Default excludes to include the ASP.Net hack _svn directory > for the release of Ant 1.7.0 + svn antlib, and documentation > to be updated to refl

RE: Ant 1.7 - ReleaseInstructions - Compiler

2006-08-21 Thread Stephen McConnell
> -Original Message- > From: Kev Jackson [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] > Sent: Tuesday, 22 August 2006 9:59 AM > To: Ant Developers List > Subject: Re: Ant 1.7 - ReleaseInstructions - Compiler > > > On 21 Aug 2006, at 21:19, Antoine Levy-Lambert wrote: > > > Hello Kev, > > > > when you b

RE: classloader for 1.7

2006-08-24 Thread Stephen McConnell \(DPML\)
erns and need to be addressed - but they need to be address as integral elements of the antlib task semantics and implementation. My conclusion is that proposal should not be included in 1.7. Cheers, Steve. -- Stephen McConnell mail

RE: classloader for 1.7

2006-08-24 Thread Stephen McConnell \(DPML\)
summary of what is in the codebase today - and some pointers to the classes in question. Cheers, Steve. ------ Stephen McConnell mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] http://www.dpml.net - To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL

RE: RE: classloader for 1.7

2006-08-24 Thread Stephen McConnell \(DPML\)
e proposed one is totally different. > >see http://enitsys.sourceforge.net/ant-classloadertask/ > > Regards, > > Antoine > Original-Nachricht ---- > Datum: Fri, 25 Aug 2006 01:50:54 +0930 > Von: "Stephen McConnell \\(DPML\\)" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > An: "\&#

RE: classloader for 1.7

2006-08-25 Thread Stephen McConnell \(DPML\)
> -Original Message- > From: Conor MacNeill [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] > Sent: Friday, 25 August 2006 9:42 AM > To: Ant Developers List > Subject: Re: classloader for 1.7 > > I'm +1 on having the classloader task and being able to add > paths to the main Ant classloader. Internally, w

RE: ComponentHelper replacement

2006-05-23 Thread Stephen McConnell \(DPML\)
se is as a build tools, not a Java library. So, the question is "can Ant evolve into a good Java API?" If the answer is YES - in your opinion .. how? If the answer is NO - in your opinion .. why not? Cheers, Steve. -- Stephen McConnell mailto:[EMAIL PROTECT

RE: ComponentHelper replacement

2006-05-28 Thread Stephen McConnell \(DPML\)
etc.) generated as a part of formal distribution content Cheers, Steve. -- Stephen McConnell mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] http://www.dpml.net - To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]

RE: ComponentHelper replacement

2006-06-26 Thread Stephen McConnell \(DPML\)
codebase per jar file where each project (a.k.a. ant-sub-project) would have its own build file, clearly identified dependencies, testcases, and resulting artifacts. Could this be a feasible post-1.7 objective? Cheers, Steve.

RE: Abusing the BuildListener

2006-07-20 Thread Stephen McConnell \(DPML\)
> -Original Message- > From: Henri Yandell [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] > Sent: Thursday, 20 July 2006 10:04 AM > To: Ant Developers List > Subject: Re: Abusing the BuildListener > > On 7/12/06, Henri Yandell <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > I suspect this isn't what was intended for the bu